The more I think about it the more it makes sense

[Morewheat]

I more I consider our options at #8 the more I think AS and TF are going to select Bijan Robinson.  He is the best player in the entire draft and has a Marshall Faulk-type ceiling and is a perfect fit for AS running schemes.  The Falcons ran the ball more than anyone else in the league and Robinson would be a game-changer in this offense. We know the Falcons have a heavy interest in Robinson via scouting multiple games and interviewing at the combine.  Robinson is a ridiculous talent that you don't get the opportunity to draft very often.  I think AS sees a tremendous opportunity with Robinson and is going to jump on it. I also still think there will be plenty of carries for Allgeier.  The dude is still a good football player and will have plenty of opportunities aside from Robinson with as much as Smith wants to run the ball.  I'm not so sure about Patterson or Huntley 🤔.  However, one analyst put it perfectly "Allgeier is featured in the Falcons’ offense; Robinson would be the Falcons’ offense."  

My only concern is that the Eagles at pick 10 seem to be equally in on Robinson and could do something crazy by jumping to pick 7 to take him.  IMO the only player to consider outside of Robinson is Will Anderson Jr. and most people expect him to go in the top 5.   

Assuming Ridder continues to develop imagine the offense potential with Ridder, Robinson, Allgeier, London, Pitts, J. Smith.  Robinson would make Ridder's job that much easier along with partially filling our need at receiver considering how elite Robinson's receiving skills are. The more I think about it the more it makes sense. 

 

[Falcons_Frenzy]

Draft a RB with the 8th pick after your rookie RB just eclipsed 1,000 yards? Not to mention his inactives to begin the year. I just don't see it. Even if Patterson falls off a cliff I think you just feed...

[PriMeTiiMe]

Basically the same thread.

[Ians0280]

[Falcanuck]

The falcons GM is one of the most analytical dudes out there and you think he will just magically forget about how bad of an idea first round RBs are? Especially when we have a rookie who beat the franchise rookie rushing record? And knowing RBs are insanely cheap right now?

[DonDaLuvMaker]

Learn from the Cowboys did with Ezekiel Elliott.

 

They drafted him 4th overrall and he broke down and got lazy after he signed his big 2nd contract. Despite having a offensive line littered with All-Pros and pro bowlers Cowboys still only had like 2 playoff wins throughout that time.

[Morewheat]

12 minutes ago, Falcanuck said:

The falcons GM is one of the most analytical dudes out there and you think he will just magically forget about how bad of an idea first round RBs are? Especially when we have a rookie who beat the franchise rookie rushing record? And knowing RBs are insanely cheap right now?

I see the opposite argument but I also think it is short-sighted.  I don't see the potential of any other player available at #8 that has impact potential like Robinson.  He will touch the ball 25 times a game (rushing & receiving) and has 2,000 all-purpose with 20 TD realistic potential.  

Edited Sunday at 06:32 PM by Morewheat

[Morewheat]

8 minutes ago, DonDaLuvMaker said:

Learn from the Cowboys did with Ezekiel Elliott.

 

They drafted him 4th overrall and he broke down and got lazy after he signed his big 2nd contract. Despite having a offensive line littered with All-Pros and pro bowlers Cowboys still only had like 2 playoff wins throughout that time.

If we are being honest Robinson is a considerably better prospect than Elliot ever was and has exponentially higher football character. 

[Killing Floor]

I don’t know where TF/AS are aiming in the draft because there are still trades to make. I do know that Bijan is monstrously better than All Gears and there’s nobody in the NFL today who wouldn’t benefit from a generational talent like Bijan. But I also know we can’t win our division unless our secondary and pass rush develop. 
The thing about Robinson and the Falcons is that we’d automatically win more games with him but by the time we got to postseason we’d need solid defensive play more than we need him to get to the next level. 
 

I love Bijan. He’s the best player in college football in 15 years or so. But I’m just not sure he’d be the right move for us right now. But I’d love it. And truth is I’ll buy his jersey wherever he goes because my wife wants one. 
 

Also, dead serious, if you can find his mustard it’s absolutely delicious. Expensive but just perfect on sandwiches. 

[falconidae]

I'll say the same thing I say about drafting a QB at 8, if the falcons do that, great, but I'd be really surprised.

D. Freeman was 4th round pick

Coleman was a 3rd rounder

Allgears  was a 5th rounder

Why would you spend the 8th pick on a RB?

Esp. when this team needs a defensive superstar and the best way to get one of those is to draft one in the top ten.

Find a RB in the 4th or 5th round.

 

[Morewheat]

2 minutes ago, Killing Floor said:

I don’t know where TF/AS are aiming in the draft because there are still trades to make. I do know that Bijan is monstrously better than All Gears and there’s nobody in the NFL today who wouldn’t benefit from a generational talent like Bijan. But I also know we can’t win our division unless our secondary and pass rush develop. 
The thing about Robinson and the Falcons is that we’d automatically win more games with him but by the time we got to postseason we’d need solid defensive play more than we need him to get to the next level. 
 

I love Bijan. He’s the best player in college football in 15 years or so. But I’m just not sure he’d be the right move for us right now. But I’d love it. And truth is I’ll buy his jersey wherever he goes because my wife wants one. 
 

Also, dead serious, if you can find his mustard it’s absolutely delicious. Expensive but just perfect on sandwiches. 

If TF didn't add Bates to the secondary along with some of the other FA defensive pieces I don't think Robinson would be in consideration.  Too many defensive needs.  However, with the defensive FA adds along, a deep defensive draft, and growth from the youngest team in the NFL, I think Robinson is actually the most logical pick at 8. 

[DonDaLuvMaker]

2 minutes ago, Morewheat said:

If we are being honest Robinson is a considerably better prospect than Elliot ever was and has exponentially higher football character. 

 

True, but still very risky to draft a RB that high in today's NFL where most teams use RB by committee outside of the Titans and Steelers.

 

AS said that he want to do RB by committee, which pretty much defeats the purpose of a RB at 8th overall.

[DonDaLuvMaker]

 

You draft a RB that high to be a bell-cow back. Not to split in committee.

 

Cowboys drafted Elliott to originally be used as a bell-cow back until Mike McCarthy started going more RB by committee once he became their HC.

 

The problem with that was they had paid Elliot top market RB money to be a main RB then even started losing snaps in a RB committee.

[Killing Floor]

9 minutes ago, DonDaLuvMaker said:

 

True, but still very risky to draft a RB that high in today's NFL where most teams use RB by committee outside of the Titans and Steelers.

 

AS said that he want to do RB by committee, which pretty much defeats the purpose of a RB at 8th overall.

All other things being equal, he makes any offense better by adding 1st downs, TDs and he’s a good blocker and a great catch. But my immediate concern is he’d make us better but not enough better to win through divisional round. But he’d fill seats because he’s better today than any running back in the NFL in over a decade. 

[falconidae]

Just now, Killing Floor said:

All other things being equal, he makes any offense better by adding 1st downs, TDs and he’s a good blocker and a great catch. But my immediate concern is he’d make us better but not enough better to win through divisional round. But he’d fill seats because he’s better today than any running back in the NFL in over a decade. 

Does great catch mean the player or his ability to catch the football?

[DonDaLuvMaker]

1 minute ago, Killing Floor said:

All other things being equal, he makes any offense better by adding 1st downs, TDs and he’s a good blocker and a great catch. But my immediate concern is he’d make us better but not enough better to win through divisional round. But he’d fill seats because he’s better today than any running back in the NFL in over a decade. 

 

Of course I would love to have Robinson here if it wasn't as high as 8th overall in the draft where a potential defensive cornerstone defender could be available instead.

 

I look at Robinson as a huge luxury at the moment. At 8th overall is just too rich for my blood unless Falcons are able to get a trade down to get him.

[Tim Mazetti]

29 minutes ago, Killing Floor said:

The thing about Robinson and the Falcons is that we’d automatically win more games with him but by the time we got to postseason we’d need solid defensive play more than we need him to get to the next level. 

Excellent point.

Well.......Snapped me back some. But TF/AS night just do it if they have a plan for the D, as in FA.

[xFalconLord]

How dumb.. it’s so ridiculous stupid to draft a running back that high 

[Killing Floor]

29 minutes ago, falconidae said:

Does great catch mean the player or his ability to catch the football?

Yeah, sorry. I mean receiver but that’s a hard word for me to spell. 

[The Don™]

Some of y'all are still stuck on drafting for need and forget that TF has drafted BPA in the first round the last two years. Gonzalez, Carter and Bijan might be the BPA at 8. I prefer Gonzalez out of those. 

None of the edge guys besides Anderson is worth the 8 pick and Anderson won't make it that far. Carter might make it to 8 but he's throwing up red flags so that's a no for me. It's either Gonzalez or Bijan at this point. 

[ATLskinjob]

No way that a RB is the BPA at 8. It's just not a good value when we could be using that pick on a position group that lasts longer. 

It is so short sighted to pick a RB in the first, and doubly so in the top 10. Bijan is good and all, but he's also not an elite physical talent like Saquon or Elliot. To me that should knock him out. 

Anyways look at the last few running backs taken in the first. Last one was Najee Harris and that was a dumb, dumb pick and the Steelers look dumb for picking him. Same with Clyde Edwards-Hilare. That was not a good pick for the Chiefs. Guess who is about to push CEH off the roster? A 7th round pick by the name of Isaiah Pacheco.

As good as Bijan looked in college, he honestly wouldn't be doing anything that Allgeier was doing for us last season. Plus there's a good chance that Allgeier is better in his second season.

Another thing is that Terry has come out and said that they draft for the future. Drafting a running back at pick 8 is not drafting for the future.

[FalconFanSince1969]

You bout to catch some flak but I agree..... We need an identity. Some facet of the team that is elite, absolutely top tier. Bijan and all gears would absolutely accomplish that. 

 

 

[primetime]

The pick Will be cb, oline or dline - I’m pretty confident you can take that to the bank. Allgeier makes Bijan a massive luxury pick that this front office are too smart to make. Our owner is not our GM (thankfully) 

[FalconFanSince1969]

6 minutes ago, primetime said:

The pick Will be cb, oline or dline - I’m pretty confident you can take that to the bank. Allgeier makes Bijan a massive luxury pick that this front office are too smart to make. Our owner is not our GM (thankfully) 

As much as we run the ball we need a stable of backs tho. Also bijan adds a receiving element that all gears does not. 

 

 

[Falcanuck]

1 hour ago, Morewheat said:

I see the opposite argument but I also think it is short-sighted.  I don't see the potential of any other player available at #8 that has impact potential like Robinson.  He will touch the ball 25 times a game (rushing & receiving) and has 2,000 all-purpose with 20 TD realistic potential.  

There is no opposite argument. RB is the least valued position in the NFL right now because guys in the 5th round are breaking records. There are plenty of players at 8 that can have a tremendous impact and I don’t think Robinson touches the ball 25 times a game for the Falcons. AllGears is a top 10 RB in the NFL this coming season.