Falconcheff Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 52 minutes ago, g-dawg said: hopefully our scouts and coaches dig deeper than our internet GMs. Jalen was not a lockerroom cancer, was well liked by his coaches and teammates - and - outside of his driving - which clearly needs intervention there - he's on balance mostly a good kid. As to the weight and the workout - it's not like he hasn't been in a tough spot the last month - there are circumstances here but by all means, let's ignore his career, his talent and that he is well thought of in the program - and add 2 + 2 and get 8 like the messageboard now in this thread. Nah bro, this guy could out-talent college kids; what he's doing does not translate to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 40 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: you believe todd mcshay or kirby smart? TBH…One has incentive to promote his guy, the other doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Jesus said: Nine pounds in two weeks? Likely just added 9 pounds of muscle preparing for his pro day 🤣 Jesus, nutsandbolts and A Dog Named Brian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 19 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: He didn't learn the first time. I'm not betting millions of dollars that he learns the second time. Sorry. Can't be mad at this. I do think I'd be more willing to trade back and take a flier in him if he happens to make it to 16ish hopefully picking up a good package that must include at least a third in this year's draft to be in the mix for one of those tier 2 running backs. Is there a pick that if he fell to you would say risk is worth the potential reward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, Falconcheff said: Vic Beasley Takk McKinley Periah Jerry Jamal Andersen Rasheed Hageman No more 1st round "Potential" please... you really comparing hageman to carter 😂😂 GANDI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, Xero said: Can't be mad at this. I do think I'd be more willing to trade back and take a flier in him if he happens to make it to 16ish hopefully picking up a good package that must include at least a third in this year's draft to be in the mix for one of those tier 2 running backs. Is there a pick that if he fell to you would say risk is worth the potential reward? I'd risk it in the 2nd. Anything past the first 15-20 picks are usually projects anyway. The first round should be reserved for the closest to a sure thing you can get unless you're taking a chance on a QB. Xero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Mingus Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 #8 is a good spot to gamble on a potential HOF talent Lionzblade and Spongebob 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, Thelonious Mingus said: #8 is a good spot to gamble on a potential HOF talent Thinking about draft history, trying to recall if/when a team took a flyer on a guy that high with big red flags and a piss poor workout 🤔 Spongebob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconcheff Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 22 minutes ago, HEIST said: I'm believing Jalen Carter Perfect quote. Believe someone when they tell you who they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 19 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: Or maybe not at all. I don't care either way. Just trying to figure out what this thread was about There's an article on ESPN about Jalen showing up to his pro-day out of shape and overweight. He opted out of all of the drills except for position drills. Then he couldn't even finish those because he was cramping and gasping for air so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, abcranford2 said: There's an article on ESPN about Jalen showing up to his pro-day out of shape and overweight. He opted out of all of the drills except for position drills. Then he couldn't even finish those because he was cramping and gasping for air so bad. I really don't think you're following what I'm saying. But that's okay. Carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bird Rising Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, g-dawg said: hopefully our scouts and coaches dig deeper than our internet GMs. Jalen was not a lockerroom cancer, was well liked by his coaches and teammates - and - outside of his driving - which clearly needs intervention there - he's on balance mostly a good kid. As to the weight and the workout - it's not like he hasn't been in a tough spot the last month - there are circumstances here but by all means, let's ignore his career, his talent and that he is well thought of in the program - and add 2 + 2 and get 8 like the messageboard now in this thread. He's a grown man that's not where he should be according to pro expectations and should fall in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: Thinking about draft history, trying to recall if/when a team took a flyer on a guy that high with big red flags and a piss poor workout 🤔 First one to come to mind is Jamarcus Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 If I have the choice between a guy that is either Sapp or Hageman or a guy that's either Revis or Slay...I'm taking guy #2. There are just too many incredible ceiling prospects that'll be there at 8 without the same baggage. Wilson and Gonzalez have All Pro ceilings and are positions of greater need, so why overthink it? Mid-Nite-Toker and Falconcheff 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, Francis York Morgan said: If I have the choice between a guy that is either Sapp or Hageman or a guy that's either Revis or Slay...I'm taking guy #2. There are just too many incredible ceiling prospects that'll be there at 8 without the same baggage. Wilson and Gonzalez have All Pro ceilings and are positions of greater need, so why overthink it? both wilson and gonza could be gone by our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 12 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: TBH…One has incentive to promote his guy, the other doesn’t. why would kirby smart and his teammates lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, kenn.junior said: both wilson and gonza could be gone by our pick. Witherspoon is every bit as good as Gonzalez. Even Porter Is a stud. 1a/1b/1c cant go wrong with any of those guys at our pick nutsandbolts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Tribal Chief said: I really don't think you're following what I'm saying. But that's okay. Carry on I guess not...it seemed like you were implying you thought this thread was about his car racing and the wreck and whatever else that "happened off the field" as you put it I believe. I agree that this is barely Falcons related if at all. I'm cool if you want to banish it. Tribal Chief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bird Rising Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 53 minutes ago, IceFalcon said: Or, maybe, just maybe, he's going through a lot of mental stress right now bc he was involved in an incident where two of his friends DIED, going through combine workouts which are the most important thing he's ever done in his life/career, and has to defend & read ******** like this on a daily basis. He's a young kin coming out of school who has been on the top of the world for the last two years in a row. The man also weighs 330 lbs+, like 9lbs is literally 3% of his body weight. Most people fluctuate 3-6 lbs per day, and that's an average person. I think the cardio conditioning aspect is a larger flag than the weight, and his mental toughness. Probably why Kirby Smart literally commented on his mental toughness. Not trying to be an apologist for him bc I think the circumstances around the crash are pretty F-d up, but the man has talent for sure and will be a difference maker on the team he lands on. All the more reason not to pick him, remember Calvin Ridley, Falcons ain't Dr. Phil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: why would kirby smart and his teammates lie? Not saying they lied about anything, but any college coach has incentive to see his guys get drafted high. That’s a known fact, it helps in recruiting. Teammates are his boys. Again, not saying anyone is lying, but coaches and teammates have both personal and professional reasons to promote a player. on the flip side, why would McShay lie? I wouldn’t think he has any vested interest in the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, abcranford2 said: I guess not...it seemed like you were implying you thought this thread was about his car racing and the wreck and whatever else that "happened off the field" as you put it I believe. I agree that this is barely Falcons related if at all. I'm cool if you want to banish it. Now you're picking up what I'm putting down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: both wilson and gonza could be gone by our pick. They could also both be there. Carter could be gone before. That's not the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: why would kirby smart and his teammates lie? The same reason Carter lied to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, Tribal Chief said: Now you're picking up what I'm putting down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutsandbolts Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, abcranford2 said: There's an article on ESPN about Jalen showing up to his pro-day out of shape and overweight. He opted out of all of the drills except for position drills. Then he couldn't even finish those because he was cramping and gasping for air so bad. I'm guessing he tanked up on wrestler juice to drop some quick pounds for today and was not prepared for what it did to him. Didn't lose the weight, wasn't hydrated enough to do pro drills. His agent should have prepared him better for today. There really is no excuse. It does make one wonder about him some no matter what the reason to not be ready today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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