Lornoth Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Dude's probably a mid round flier at this point. Possibly late first if someone like the Cowboys who take these risks really like him. There's way too many red flags to touch him early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, abcranford2 said: Nobody knows...that's why you don't spend a top 10 pick on "what if". he one of the best players in the draft you most definitely do lol but we will see Lionzblade and IceFalcon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: He didn't learn the first time. I'm not betting millions of dollars that he learns the second time. Sorry. good thing you dont have a say in the matter Lionzblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschreck Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 8 minutes ago, g-dawg said: and neither am I when it comes to the NFL draft and my Falcons. look no further than TODAY in the thread about drafting Nolan Smith. I saw your post about all the UGA players, and stick with the fact that I'm glad the staff will come to their own conclusions apart from a UGA bias. If they vet everything out and feel it's worth the risk, I'll be as big a fan as anyone. My concern is that this franchise isn't in a place to take on top 10 picks that may or may not be in the right state of mind. He'll get his shot somewhere, I hope he takes full advance of it. I'll be honest, the video of that officer basically begging him to slow down, stuck with me. Some people learn life lessons the easy way, some learn them the hard way. I hope he fully understands what kind of opportunity is in front of him and takes full advantage of it. Lionzblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, kenn.junior said: he one of the best players in the draft you most definitely do lol but we will see I know you UGA fans are new to winning. I was once like you. I thought all the great college players from my team were going to dominate. It took a couple of them being complete busts for me to see the light. Lionzblade and Aluminafalcon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Serious question. Is this thread pertaining to the Falcons in any manner or y'all just arguing about Carter's decision made off the field? Lionzblade and A Dog Named Brian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, abcranford2 said: I know you UGA fans are new to winning. I was once like you. I thought all the great college players from my team were going to dominate. It took a couple of them being complete busts for me to see the light. not everyone is a uga homer my guy im not even from georgia Lionzblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 14 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: i believe a HC that actually sees that player everyday over todd “mock draft“ mcshay 😂 You mean like how Arthur Smith praised Marcus Mariota every week? coaches are not going to bad mouth players. They will always go to bat for them. Falconcheff and Aluminafalcon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceFalcon Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Tribal Chief said: Serious question. Is this thread pertaining to the Falcons in any manner or y'all just arguing about Carter's decision made off the field? Think the entire debate is whether we take him at 8 or not. Or maybe trade back, and take him in mid rounds if we think he falls that far. Seems relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, PriMeTiiMe said: You mean like how Arthur Smith praised Marcus Mariota every week? coaches are not going to bad mouth players. They will always go to bat for them. what was he praising him about? list what he was saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, IceFalcon said: Think the entire debate is whether we take him at 8 or not. Or maybe trade back, and take him in mid rounds if we think he falls that far. Seems relevant. All I see is arguing about what happened off the field. Makes it easy to miss what's actually relevant to the Falcons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEIST Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 25 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: you believe todd mcshay or kirby smart? I'm believing Jalen Carter Falconcheff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, Tribal Chief said: All I see is arguing about what happened off the field. Makes it easy to miss what's actually relevant to the Falcons I think people are arguing about whether or not his performance, or lack there of, at his pro day will knock him out of the first round. Arthur Smith was there to watch it. So it's somewhat Falcons related. Also, maybe we grab him in the second round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, LightningDawg58 said: The media are really out for this kid it seems. That’s unfortunate. Not saying it’s not true, but I haven’t read any positive stories on the kid since the offseason. The media, and some of these people around here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconcheff Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 58 minutes ago, The Architect said: I thought the media there were exaggerating but this looks bad. Wow, that is...not impressive AT ALL😮 This young man had really better find the right people to put in his life, he is on a spiral and it's hard to know how to stop it yourself... BudATL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Mustardson Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I’m not cool with the guy being this kind of lazy before the most Important day of his professional football career. I’ve got alarm bells going off in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, abcranford2 said: I think people are arguing about whether or not his performance, or lack there of, at his pro day will knock him out of the first round. Arthur Smith was there to watch it. So it's somewhat Falcons related. Also, maybe we grab him in the second round? Or maybe not at all. I don't care either way. Just trying to figure out what this thread was about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, kenn.junior said: what was he praising him about? list what he was saying Did Marcus Mariota continue to start every week? Did AS tell people every week there was no QB controversy and that Marcus was our starter? did he continue to start and be defended even after throwing a no look 360 pass from the ground? Nothing more needs to said. Aluminafalcon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, kschreck said: I saw your post about all the UGA players, and stick with the fact that I'm glad the staff will come to their own conclusions apart from a UGA bias. If they vet everything out and feel it's worth the risk, I'll be as big a fan as anyone. My concern is that this franchise isn't in a place to take on top 10 picks that may or may not be in the right state of mind. He'll get his shot somewhere, I hope he takes full advance of it. I'll be honest, the video of that officer basically begging him to slow down, stuck with me. Some people learn life lessons the easy way, some learn them the hard way. I hope he fully understands what kind of opportunity is in front of him and takes full advantage of it. I've been on this board since Michael Vick - you've been around long enough to know me that I don't evaluate UGA players any differently than any others - I am as criticial of UGA players as anyone and would just as soon take an Auburn, LSU, Bama or even a **** Gator over a UGA player if I thought it was the right move - getting tired of these type of comments because of my screen name. Moving on, I'm not looking over today's poor performance nor the car racing issues - there's enough smoke to - at the very least - say Jalen Carter has some maturity issues. Sometimes red flags pan out to lead to bigger issues and sustained disappointment - and sometimes they don't and kids grow up. It's fair to be critical of Jalen Carter now and almost everyone is - clearly. I just don't think from following him that there is no good side to him - I know there is and he's a popular player with the team. Just hope our guys - Fontenot. Smith and front office - do a deep dive on the kid and keep up w/ him between now and closing. There will likely be many a private workout, meetings, etc - between Jalen Carter and several NFL teams - heck even more teams are going to do their due diligence on him now that many think he will tumble down the draft board. Some team is going to get this great talent - and he may come through this as a more mature and grown up person - everyone has their turning point. If this isn't it for Jalen - then I would concede he's in trouble - I just don't believe he's gonna flop in the NFL nor in life. Time will tell. Fernando C., Mid-Nite-Toker, Lionzblade and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I think it's a tough call taking Carter at #8 and I believe it's more stress than laziness for the poor workout. Fair to say he will be available at #8, but do you pass on say a Gonzalez for a huge question mark in Carter. If he's available in round #3 and the Falcons have vetted the situation, maybe then. IDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Did Marcus Mariota continue to start every week? Did AS tell people every week there was no QB controversy and that Marcus was our starter? did he continue to start and be defended even after throwing a no look 360 pass from the ground? Nothing more needs to said. we know why mariota kept starting cuz they thought ridder wasnt ready. just cuz we all wanted ridder to come in the game dont mean thats what AS and the coaching staff wanted. it was clear that as soon as we couldn’t make the playoffs anymore is when ridder was gonna come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 It seems more and more like he’s gonna fall to 8… finally our luck is turning around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconcheff Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 51 minutes ago, dapanch420 said: screw it ill take a chance on him the upside is too intrguing. Vic Beasley Takk McKinley Periah Jerry Jamal Andersen Rasheed Hageman No more 1st round "Potential" please... Aluminafalcon, DirtyBird757 and Geneaut 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampyMux12 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, ShoNuff said: Warren Sapp dropped in a very short amount of time, as well as La'el Collins, Randy Moss and Laremy Tunsil. Wasn't La'el Collins a false accusation? Moss wasn't a recent event, it was stuff that had happened in the past that was getting dug up. Tunsil I remember, yeah he was an idiot. Don't remember Sapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_The_Tank Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 All I know is if he's still there at #8, this better be TF to draft him! ShoNuff and Lionzblade 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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