chifalc Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, jetpac said: Arizona Not very likely, are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, chifalc said: Not very likely, are you serious? I’ve heard different. From someone in far greater know than you or I. Will it happen? I don’t know, but it’s not outside the realm of possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chifalc Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, jetpac said: I’ve heard different. From someone in far greater know than you or I. Will it happen? I don’t know, but it’s not outside the realm of possibility You constantly pretending to have inside sources is tiresome. Bunchy Carter and ATLskinjob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, chifalc said: You constantly pretending to have inside sources is tiresome. 😂😂😂 Everything is tiresome for you my boy. I even posted my instagram a few days back just for people like you. Wouldn’t have been hard to figure it out. With that said i’m done talking to you. You’re def a “Riddah is da greatest” fan. And i’m cool with that. More power to you. Edited March 15 by jetpac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chifalc Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, jetpac said: 😂😂😂 Everything is tiresome for you my boy. I even posted my instagram a few days back just for people like you. Wouldn’t have been hard to figure it out. With that said i’m done talking to you. You’re def a “Riddah is da greatest” fan. And i’m cool with that. More power to you. Despite the fact that I’ve said more or less I think he can be a solid nfl starter, and that I think a solid nfl starter is what we need. Which is not ‘the greatest’. Yes. I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux_Falcons Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/14/2023 at 12:07 PM, Moist Words said: I am curious to see where he ranks on backup QB pay. He's gotta be in the top ten and I'd suspect higher than that. Mayfield got like 8.5. I'm assuming he's Trask backup. So i'd say he's gotta be top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 On 3/14/2023 at 1:05 PM, Freddies 3rd Cuz said: I'm totally against signing LJ, but to think he's not a winner or couldn't win here in the Atl because he's a running QB with terrible accuracy issues is totally asinine. He's been a league MVP and had completion percentages of 66% 64% 64% in three of his 5 seasons. Plus he won games with his legs extending plays over and over. The dude can ball. I'm not about breaking the bank and giving up draft capital to acquire him, but let's not throw rocks now that this regime has moved on from him. He's a top 10 QB and will automatically win a team 10 games per yr doing his thing. He’s great in regular season when he’s not injured from running so much. He’s not so great in playoffs because the better NFL defenses can force him to throw the ball from the pocket to have any chance at winning. Which in regular season he’s great at winning with his legs, in playoffs he’s lost 4 games and won 1 wildcard. That’s it. People loved Vick, but Michael Vick only won 2 playoff games in his entire career. I don’t know why people have such a hard time understanding what it takes to win in the playoffs. You cite stats about accuracy, but it’s a well known fact he has issues with throwing the football downfield. Sure, he’s accurate on short passes, but he’s not accurate hitting open receivers with consistency running open downfield. I could drop a dozen articles in here about this from a dozen different pundits.https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-news-lamar-jackson-must-improve-throwing-accuracy-stephen-a-smith-rips-into-baltimore-ravens-qbs-inefficiency/ So the past two seasons Lamar finished the year on injured reserve. The seasons he didn’t get injured by playoffs, he lost 4 playoff games, and only won a single wildcard game in his entire career. I don’t want razzle dazzle in regular season, my QB putting himself constantly in harms way to thrill the crowd with electric runs. I want my QB healthy come playoff time, and to have the best chance to win in the playoffs,. To do that you’ve got to have a QB who can beat defenses from the pocket first and foremost, and only run as the last resort with exception of some designed runs. That’s how you win playoff games, your QB has got to be able to beat defenses from the pocket by reading them, going through his progressions quickly, getting the ball out quickly and delivering it accurately. If he can’t do this, he can run all he wants and lose the game. 4dabirds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddies 3rd Cuz Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 15 minutes ago, gazoo said: He’s great in regular season when he’s not injured from running so much. He’s not so great in playoffs because the better NFL defenses can force him to throw the ball from the pocket to have any chance at winning. Which in regular season he’s great at winning with his legs, in playoffs he’s lost 4 games and won 1 wildcard. That’s it. People loved Vick, but Michael Vick only won 2 playoff games in his entire career. I don’t know why people have such a hard time understanding what it takes to win in the playoffs. You cite stats about accuracy, but it’s a well known fact he has issues with throwing the football downfield. Sure, he’s accurate on short passes, but he’s not accurate hitting open receivers with consistency running open downfield. I could drop a dozen articles in here about this from a dozen different pundits.https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-news-lamar-jackson-must-improve-throwing-accuracy-stephen-a-smith-rips-into-baltimore-ravens-qbs-inefficiency/ So the past two seasons Lamar finished the year on injured reserve. The seasons he didn’t get injured by playoffs, he lost 4 playoff games, and only won a single wildcard game in his entire career. I don’t want razzle dazzle in regular season, my QB putting himself constantly in harms way to thrill the crowd with electric runs. I want my QB healthy come playoff time, and to have the best chance to win in the playoffs,. To do that you’ve got to have a QB who can beat defenses from the pocket first and foremost, and only run as the last resort with exception of some designed runs. That’s how you win playoff games, your QB has got to be able to beat defenses from the pocket by reading them, going through his progressions quickly, getting the ball out quickly and delivering it accurately. If he can’t do this, he can run all he wants and lose the game. Matt Ryan had some of that early in his career with playoffs. Don't kid yourself. I understand what you like or don't like but LJ is an electrifying player that can win a SB. However, I don't want him here simply because of his salary demands and injury risk, but no one can convince me he's not a top 10 QB, otherwise why did the Ravens just offer him 133M for 3 years They're not a stupid organization. oSI7ENT and gazoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Freddies 3rd Cuz said: Matt Ryan had some of that early in his career with playoffs. Don't kid yourself. I understand what you like or don't like but LJ is an electrifying player that can win a SB. However, I don't want him here simply because of his salary demands and injury risk, but no one can convince me he's not a top 10 QB, otherwise why did the Ravens just offer him 133M for 3 years They're not a stupid organization. Ryan typically played excellent throughout playoffs, and we won some big playoff games with terrible low ranked defenses, and really, Ryan played so well in Super Bowl we had the game iced without dumb play calling allowing Pats back in. But I didn’t realize you also were concerned about Lamars injuries, many here who wanted him wouldn’t even acknowledge this issue. We seem to only disagree with importance of a QB who can dissect a defenses from the pockey to win playoff games. Mobility in today’s NFL more important than it was 10 years ago, but Brady was still winning Super Bowls from pocket recently. I believe your WB can be as athletic as Michael Vick, but if he can’t dissect a defense from the pocket he won’t go far in playoffs. Regular season sure, playoffs not so much. Also, Lamars running is catching up to him with season ending injuries the past two seasons. These running QBs have abbreviated careers. ItsJustMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 19 hours ago, gazoo said: In other words, the poster you quoted is admitting Heinicke is the backup, which is what I was saying. My OP further states if Ridder implodes or gets hurt Heinicke was brought in the take over. it’s odd when exactly what I said in OP is repackaged as a revelation later in the thread. Gazoo mad salty as usual 🤣 Trying to turn my post in to "repackaging" when its clearly your homerism. No surprise here to any OG's on this MB. Talon28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 10 minutes ago, gazoo said: Ryan typically played excellent throughout playoffs This is so far from the truth. No he did not. 2016 and 2012 aside the man was lackluster his first few times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 33 minutes ago, jetpac said: This is so far from the truth. No he did not. 2016 and 2012 aside the man was lackluster his first few times According to who? Throwing a pick in the playoffs doesn’t mean you had a bad game. Brady had lots of picks in playoff games, sometimes multiple picks and pick 6s. Doesn’t mean he sucked in playoffs. The Ryan haters were utterly ridiculous in their criticism of Ryan’s playoff performances. Just absurd, over the top nonsense. Most of Jen hated him because he was a pure pocket passer and wanted Vick running. Of course, Vick only won 2 playoff games in his entire career, Lamar only 1 wildcard, but that doesn’t matter to the running QB enthusiasts. chifalc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chifalc Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 8 hours ago, gazoo said: According to who? Throwing a pick in the playoffs doesn’t mean you had a bad game. Brady had lots of picks in playoff games, sometimes multiple picks and pick 6s. Doesn’t mean he sucked in playoffs. The Ryan haters were utterly ridiculous in their criticism of Ryan’s playoff performances. Just absurd, over the top nonsense. Most of Jen hated him because he was a pure pocket passer and wanted Vick running. Of course, Vick only won 2 playoff games in his entire career, Lamar only 1 wildcard, but that doesn’t matter to the running QB enthusiasts. Matt Ryan was 17-22, 284 yards 2 tds, zero int one fumble. Somehow THAT is what these people blame for the Super Bowl loss rather than the 440 yards passing the defense gave up. 4dabirds and gazoo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WH dirtybird Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 3/14/2023 at 4:04 PM, CADirtyBird said: Heinicke How can you not love Heinicke. Combination of beer and booty all in one name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtier Bird Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, chifalc said: Matt Ryan was 17-22, 284 yards 2 tds, zero int one fumble. Somehow THAT is what these people blame for the Super Bowl loss rather than the 440 yards passing the defense gave up. I blame Alex Mack for running to the line and snapping the ball early when we had a huge freaking lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 The never-ending quest to be "right" about a player wages on. gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 13 hours ago, jetpac said: This is so far from the truth. No he did not. 2016 and 2012 aside the man was lackluster his first few times 12 hours ago, gazoo said: According to who? Throwing a pick in the playoffs doesn’t mean you had a bad game. Brady had lots of picks in playoff games, sometimes multiple picks and pick 6s. Doesn’t mean he sucked in playoffs. The Ryan haters were utterly ridiculous in their criticism of Ryan’s playoff performances. Just absurd, over the top nonsense. Most of Jen hated him because he was a pure pocket passer and wanted Vick running. Of course, Vick only won 2 playoff games in his entire career, Lamar only 1 wildcard, but that doesn’t matter to the running QB enthusiasts. Really Jet? https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/matt-ryan-career-playoff-stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Bandit Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 minutes ago, ItsJustMe said: Really Jet? https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/matt-ryan-career-playoff-stats That doesn't prove what you think it does. Outside of 2012 & 16, He averaged 199.5 yards with a 5/4 TD to INT ratio. Not great. oSI7ENT and Talon28 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownvoteDon Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 From the tittle to this thread, I am disappointed that I did not see something like this here: Banana Bandit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 41 minutes ago, Duff_Man said: The never-ending quest to be "right" about a player wages on. While I didn’t state my earlier position in the OP, simply pointed out the new information we have and drew a logical conclusion from it, I do appreciate you noticing. Do you follow me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 10 minutes ago, Banana Bandit said: That doesn't prove what you think it does. Outside of 2012 & 16, He averaged 199.5 yards with a 5/4 TD to INT ratio. Not great. Also third highest rated QBR game in SBs. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/matt-ryan-superbowl-51-qbr Career in playoffs 20 TDs 7 INTS gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Bandit Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, ItsJustMe said: Also third highest rated QBR game in SBs. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/matt-ryan-superbowl-51-qbr Career in playoffs 20 TDs 7 INTS Oh, excuse me, I didn't realize that you didn't read his post. ItsJustMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, ItsJustMe said: Also third highest rated QBR game in SBs. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/matt-ryan-superbowl-51-qbr Career in playoffs 20 TDs 7 INTS There is nothing whatsoever that will satisfy the rabid running QB people, except a running QB like Mariota, they loved him. They loved Vick, despite him only having 2 career playoff wins. The playoffs don’t matter to this people, only running QBs matter. ItsJustMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 49 minutes ago, gazoo said: While I didn’t state my earlier position in the OP, simply pointed out the new information we have and drew a logical conclusion from it, I do appreciate you noticing. Do you follow me? No, but when I saw this topic out there, I knew it would be a back-door way of you putting Ridder over somehow. Again. gazoo, Banana Bandit, FalconFanSince1969 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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