Moist Words Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, Geaux_Falcons said: I'll say this. I don't think Lamar was a realistic option due to the fact that we really needed to build the team more, and couldn't afford to give up both picks and a huge contract to get him here. That said, I also don't think Ridder's guaranteed the job. Hienicke will likely go into 2023 as one of the highest paid backup QB's, with performance incentives to escalate his contract up to 20 million in value, including playoffs. So it's Ridder's job to lose at this point, but the leash might not be a full season long leash. With it being a 2 year deal, i'd speculate that if Ridder doesn't secure the job, then we're definitely going for a QB in 2024. I am curious to see where he ranks on backup QB pay. He's gotta be in the top ten and I'd suspect higher than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, HASHBROWN3 said: Not really, he’s just putting you girls back in reality check after your relentless & irrational LJ onslaught backfired. Clearly we didn’t want to sell out the franchise. Amazing you couldn’t grasp this. You don’t seem so excited anymore so it probably worked for Gaz. Sorry buddy. No “homers”, no “we have a right”, no “QB at all cost” crap. Just plain old logic about building the team. You were wrong and most here were right. Its fun! 😄 Some of us had to put up with weeks of insufferable talk about how if Ridder was going to be our starter they would have said it, and the fever-pitch and rumors of going after Lamar, so these people can deal with a misspelling. For Gods sake I’m so glad this is over (until the next offseason when the annual running QB craze will come out of remission) This signing is a stake through the heart of that debate for this year. Ridder is our starter and the front office had faith in him being able to start this entire time. Herr Doktor, ATLskinjob, Hashbrown3 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, CADirtyBird said: Heinicke Ill learn it by week 14 labradford, gazoo and ATLskinjob 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 10 minutes ago, Moist Words said: I am curious to see where he ranks on backup QB pay. He's gotta be in the top ten and I'd suspect higher than that. Just wondering where you're screen name comes from? Mines an odd one also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, ATLSlobberKnockers said: Just wondering where you're screen name comes from? Mines an odd one also Something somebody said on here once that I found hilarious. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 God please end this. Even if it means destroying the Earth again. gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon28 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, jetpac said: He so excited to be “the guy” to tell others not to want a better QB that he forgot to spell check. Regardless of if it was Lamar (who I don’t want) or someone else. Fans have to right to want better at the QB position. It’s just called being a fan. You don’t have to agree, just like we won’t agree that Mediocre Taylor makes us any better. Just a post to create drama. Nothing really to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Gazoo gon Gazoo with his typical homerism. Heinicke was signed because he is a very capable QB. Whether its a backup or starter. He has legit NFL starter experience and can use his legs. He wasn't signed because "Ridder is our guy for the next decade". If this regime was SOOO confident in Ridder alone then would they have spent so much on a backup? I think Ridder is obviously their choice to win the job. Even if its close in training camp I think he will get the nod, but they didn't sign Heinicke to just hold a clipboard. He has a purpose. In my opinion they specifically wanted Heinicke cause if Ridder ends up sucking then we can turn to Heinicke and put him in instantly and he can win games. Ridder will have a long leash, but Heinicke is capable of winning games. Statick, Mid-Nite-Toker, Stevo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, chifalc said: Last season, his most recent, was statistically on par with mariotta. Now do I think that is his base level? No. But … Well, you compared them for a reason….So what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chifalc Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, Vandy said: Well, you compared them for a reason….So what do you think? In other words, he’s not worth the kind of contract he wants. He just isn’t. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 minutes ago, chifalc said: In other words, he’s not worth the kind of contract he wants. He just isn’t. That’s fair, but comparing him in anyway to mariota is a silly way of saying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chifalc Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Vandy said: That’s fair, but comparing him in anyway to mariota is a silly way of saying it. It’s a statistical fact however. Look at it. You can massage it and say he is better, and he is … but it’s not by as much as people seem to think. Look at the actual numbers from last season. It may be a down season, but it was not that different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 5 hours ago, A Dog Named Brian said: Anybody with half a brain that read between the lines of all the TF/AS press conferences knew what we were trying to accomplish, no way were we going to mortgage the future to bring him in. For the first time in a long time we’re actually building this team correctly and I’m just sitting back and enjoying the show. Let’s make some noise this season 🥃 Isn’t it wonderful to have a front office we can trust isn’t going to do foolish things like bet te farm on an inaccurate, oftinjured running QB who ended the past two seasons on IR? A Dog Named Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, chifalc said: It’s a statistical fact however. Look at it. You can massage it and say he is better, and he is … but it’s not by as much as people seem to think. Look at the actual numbers from last season. It may be a down season, but it was not that different. Mariota was also “statistically factually” better last year than Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, and our brand new QB Taylor Heinicke. So there’s that. And FYI, I never thought LJ was coming here, but…..throughout his nfl career, lamar jackson has proven to be mucho better player than Marcus mariotta ever thought of being. If you want to data-mine one injury riddled season and suggest it proves anything close to differently, you lose any and all cred with little ole me. Selah. gazoo, Mid-Nite-Toker, oSI7ENT and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I was good with either course the front office decided. The Watson chase put LJ in the conversation. Bringing in a competent vet to compete is what I wanted. Happy it worked out this way Vandy and gazoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 15 minutes ago, Vandy said: Mariota was also “statistically factually” better last year than Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, and our brand new QB Taylor Heinicke. So there’s that. And FYI, I never thought LJ was coming here, but…..throughout his nfl career, lamar jackson has proven to be mucho better than Marcus mariotta ever thought of being. If you believe anything close to differently, you lose any and all cred with little ole me. 💯 Thing is Mariota messed himself over by handling the benching the way he did. He could've gone into camp with an opportunity to regain his spot or be a play away from starting in an offense he knows. Never take business personal. Vandy and gazoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 To the Lamar acolytes, you can be incredibly athletic and run like the wind, and win many regular season games, but if you can’t pass the ball the better defenses will stop you in the playoffs. Look at Lamar’s post season games. He either loses immediately or one season he actually won a playoff game. He finished the season on injured reserve the past two years. Why people want this is baffling. Michael Vick could run like crazy, but as soon as he got in playoffs, the better defenses stopped him. He only had 2 playoff appearances in his entire career. Why is it the running QB enthusiasts refuse to admit this playoff issue? I’d say it’s because they don’t care. They just want to be entertained in regular seas9n games by flash and dazzle. A QB HAS to be able to pass the ball accurately from the pocket to advance in playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Talon28 said: Just a post to create drama. Nothing really to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 56 minutes ago, Clark Kent™ said: Gazoo gon Gazoo with his typical homerism. Heinicke was signed because he is a very capable QB. Whether its a backup or starter. He has legit NFL starter experience and can use his legs. He wasn't signed because "Ridder is our guy for the next decade". If this regime was SOOO confident in Ridder alone then would they have spent so much on a backup? I think Ridder is obviously their choice to win the job. Even if its close in training camp I think he will get the nod, but they didn't sign Heinicke to just hold a clipboard. He has a purpose. In my opinion they specifically wanted Heinicke cause if Ridder ends up sucking then we can turn to Heinicke and put him in instantly and he can win games. Ridder will have a long leash, but Heinicke is capable of winning games. Not speaking to anyone's homerism, but this is spot-on accurate. We won 7 games with Ridder and freaking Mariota for most of the season. With the other moves we have made to improve the team, this team can win 10-11 games with Mr. Hankey. Ridder will get every chance to be "that guy" but if he's not, we can win now with the backup and he's the perfect bridge to trying to find the long term answer again in the 2024 draft. Clark Kent™, Stevo and oSI7ENT 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 36 minutes ago, Mid-Nite-Toker said: 💯 Thing is Mariota messed himself over by handling the benching the way he did. He could've gone into camp with an opportunity to regain his spot or be a play away from starting in an offense he knows. Never take business personal. So true. As you know I defended the guy for 2/3 of year because we were winning. But when the inevitable came his little temper tantrum cost him and his family literally millions. SMH. MarkMc44, oSI7ENT and Mid-Nite-Toker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Clark Kent™ said: Gazoo gon Gazoo with his typical homerism. Heinicke was signed because he is a very capable QB. Whether its a backup or starter. He has legit NFL starter experience and can use his legs. He wasn't signed because "Ridder is our guy for the next decade". If this regime was SOOO confident in Ridder alone then would they have spent so much on a backup? I think Ridder is obviously their choice to win the job. Even if its close in training camp I think he will get the nod, but they didn't sign Heinicke to just hold a clipboard. He has a purpose. In my opinion they specifically wanted Heinicke cause if Ridder ends up sucking then we can turn to Heinicke and put him in instantly and he can win games. Ridder will have a long leash, but Heinicke is capable of winning games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, TheUsualStuff said: Not speaking to anyone's homerism, but this is spot-on accurate. We won 7 games with Ridder and freaking Mariota for most of the season. With the other moves we have made to improve the team, this team can win 10-11 games with Mr. Hankey. Ridder will get every chance to be "that guy" but if he's not, we can win now with the backup and he's the perfect bridge to trying to find the long term answer again in the 2024 draft. In other words, the poster you quoted is admitting Heinicke is the backup, which is what I was saying. My OP further states if Ridder implodes or gets hurt Heinicke was brought in the take over. it’s odd when exactly what I said in OP is repackaged as a revelation later in the thread. Clark Kent™ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Fan MVP Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 8 hours ago, Freddies 3rd Cuz said: I'm totally against signing LJ, but to think he's not a winner or couldn't win here in the Atl because he's a running QB with terrible accuracy issues is totally asinine. He's been a league MVP and had completion percentages of 66% 64% 64% in three of his 5 seasons. Plus he won games with his legs extending plays over and over. The dude can ball. I'm not about breaking the bank and giving up draft capital to acquire him, but let's not throw rocks now that this regime has moved on from him. He's a top 10 QB and will automatically win a team 10 games per yr doing his thing. Once again, I said TF and AS were too smart to moratge the future as they almost did with D Watson. Lesson learned. Lamar is a very very special player who can win a SB in the future. But let's not fool ourselves and act like he's a loser or just a flat out terrible passer. The Falcons didn't have Ridder on the roster when they pursued Watson. Ridder must have really impressed them behind the scenes. Freddies 3rd Cuz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, Vandy said: Well, you compared them for a reason….So what do you think? I'll answer. I believe he is a bot account with the.sole purpose of keeping us talking about Lamar Jackson. For his sake I hope he's not human gazoo and Vandy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 5 hours ago, Talon28 said: Just a post to create drama. Nothing really to see here. Thats what all posts are man. Every article you read, every news show, every reality program on your t.v. Every Jan 6 commitee. Every "the science" your told to believe or you don't believe in science somehow. Every conspiracy theory that comes true. Every Tyler Perry movie. Every race debate inexplicably on ESPN. Why was Jaws 5 about a shark taking the deaths of 4 other sharks personally and avenging upon one family? It actually said this time its personal on the poster. Those same kind of people are preaching about global warming now while using 10k times more.carbon than others. THe worlds been flushed down the toilet enjoy the short ride to the sewer. Game over man Its all a pile of b.s. and were all just nuggets around the rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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