Serge Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, JDaveG said: K Moist said, and you acknowledged, not many people are born with the processing ability to be an NFL quarterback, even if they can physically play the position and intellectually understand it. Ridder might be able to do it, but he wasn't Joe Burrow in college, and he didn't project to become that in the pros. He could still become an NFL starter, but he's not so innately gifted at processing information like an NFL quarterback that his future is assured. Treating him like he does, because that's how he carries himself, isn't really fair to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, Serge said: Moist said, and you acknowledged, not many people are born with the processing ability to be an NFL quarterback, even if they can physically play the position and intellectually understand it. Ridder might be able to do it, but he wasn't Joe Burrow in college, and he didn't project to become that in the pros. He could still become an NFL starter, but he's not so innately gifted at processing information like an NFL quarterback that his future is assured. Treating him like he does, because that's how he carries himself, isn't really fair to him. Well, really, I'm not treating him like anything. But in terms of his strengths and weaknesses, reading defenses and getting rid of the ball are two of his strengths. The only time he had a trouble with the second was when the play broke down and he tried to play hero ball instead of throwing it away and living to fight another down. And that's a learned skill, not something innate. Nobody knows if he's going to be a solid starter or not. But he does have the one trait I value most in a QB, and that is the ability to get the ball out to the right guy on time. gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Aluminafalcon said: That’s not really a prediction. Half the experts think he is the next cam newton half the experts think he will never develop into a real qb. No matter what happens a lot of people will look silly Most people aren’t predicting one way or the other. Even with Ridder, I’m all for letting him be out named starter next year as we build the team around the position , and worst case scenario we have a better supporting cast next year to lure a top vet. My odds are 80% likely he succeeds and 20% he fails. *Most people see any acquisition in this light. *Except for the running QB enthusiasts who each year proclaim its the last chance ever to pick a can’t miss QB and your team will be set back a generation if you don’t bet the farm on him. and each year as so many they said we’re can’t miss, end up missing, they just keep repeating the same to big each year. oSI7ENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, JDaveG said: Well, really, I'm not treating him like anything. But in terms of his strengths and weaknesses, reading defenses and getting rid of the ball are two of his strengths. The only time he had a trouble with the second was when the play broke down and he tried to play hero ball instead of throwing it away and living to fight another down. And that's a learned skill, not something innate. Nobody knows if he's going to be a solid starter or not. But he does have the one trait I value most in a QB, and that is the ability to get the ball out to the right guy on time. You said I dislike him like I have something against him for being our only quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo93 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 19 hours ago, BigDawgMania said: OP can post good thread and the same few come in to call Ridder trash like clockwork. Get a hobby. But is it a good thread? The article’s big revelation is that it’s awesome to have a cheap and GOOD QB and not so good to overpay guys like Ryan Tannehill. The article then spends zero time explaining how hard it is to actually find a good young QB and why the QB market is at where it is today. They make insane money because it’s hard to find consistent and reliable performances from the position. Going the cheap route and then crossing your fingers and hoping it all works out isn’t new, it’s the oldest **** thing of all time. Serge and FalconFanSince1969 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoNuff Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 19 hours ago, gazoo said: Often the same posters who loved Mariota so much they claimed we had a shot at the Super Bowl middle of last year 🤣🤣🤣 The ignore function works great! 😂 Chance at the Super Bowl? I do not know how that one. Chance at the playoff....Yes. However, I do not believe anyone actually thought the Atlanta Falcons were even a long-shot Super Bowl contender, not with their roster of players whose performance as a whole was "average at best". JDaveG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 19 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Quote the post calling ridder trash so we can see it. He can’t, he’s agenda posting. Look at his Profile pic. Bruh we get it you like Ridder. Some of us do too! SHOCKER, still wouldn’t hurt to go after a QB and get some real competition. If that doesn’t happen guess what, we’re still all fans of the same team. So chillllll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mazetti Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 hours ago, autigerfan said: He doesn't have 2 seasons to show in my mind. He has to be the guy this year or the seat gets mighty hot for TF and AS. I am not expecting a hot seat....maybe the temp of SWFL tap water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, ShoNuff said: Chance at the Super Bowl? I do not know how that one. Chance at the playoff....Yes. However, I do not believe anyone actually thought the Atlanta Falcons were even a long-shot Super Bowl contender, not with their roster of players whose performance as a whole was "average at best". Oh yes there were. I mentioned this a few months ago, had posters question if it was ever asserted, and had other posters confirm, oh yes, it was asserted by multiple posters. I can’t recall what game it was after but I’m sure it was after one he ran a lot it and that we won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, gazoo said: Oh yes there were. I mentioned this a few months ago, had posters question if it was ever asserted, and had other posters confirm, oh yes, it was asserted by multiple posters. I can’t recall what game it was after but I’m sure it was after one he ran a lot it and that we won. As if you don't do the same thing every single year. And it was asserted by one poster. Jedi. That's it. Tighty whiteys all knotted up over one poster..... One poster who did what the great gazoo does yearly. Clark Kent™ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 10 hours ago, Serge said: That's why I'd rather give Ridder another year or two on the bench before asking him to be the guy. If he wasn't an obvious future NFL starter in college, he's probably not going to play faster if he's still adjusting to NFL speed and trying to learn a pro offense. Cincinnati was way more talented than most of the teams they were playing against when he had his one big season there as a passer. He didn't project as a guy that was going to pick up an NFL offense and start running it at a high level by his second year in the league. If he did, we'd have probably taken him where we took Troy Andersen. game experience way more important to QB development than practice reps. If Ridder is going to improve it will happen faster with actual playing time rather than mental reps holding the clip board. No one is expecting him to be an all pro next year but most are looking for year over year progress on a upward track. gazoo and JDaveG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 12 hours ago, shockerfalcon said: game experience way more important to QB development than practice reps. If Ridder is going to improve it will happen faster with actual playing time rather than mental reps holding the clip board. No one is expecting him to be an all pro next year but most are looking for year over year progress on a upward track. Nothing can compare to actual regular or post season game reps. But Ridder also ran the scout team against our first team defense each week in practice and that does help, to some extent, him acclimate to NFL level speed. But you are right, nothing can touch real games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 21 hours ago, Tim Mazetti said: I am not expecting a hot seat....maybe the temp of SWFL tap water. This. I would like the seat to be on fire today. But it’s not my decision. Keeping Mariota as 1 past week 10 was a chess move to defer the “evaluation process” by another full season. It had nothing to do with getting Ridder prepared or staying competitive with Mariota through the bye, just a way to extend the grace period for Smith. Hats off to him for outwitting Blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 13 hours ago, shockerfalcon said: game experience way more important to QB development than practice reps. If Ridder is going to improve it will happen faster with actual playing time rather than mental reps holding the clip board. No one is expecting him to be an all pro next year but most are looking for year over year progress on a upward track. Sounds like he would have to be good enough to save Smith's job as a 2nd year player, or Font's giving Smith another year before we even start talking about wins and losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 3/2/2023 at 9:47 PM, Lornoth said: Bro what. To be honest there’s a couple there that couldn’t beat you from the pocket either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 3/3/2023 at 12:01 PM, FalconFanSince1969 said: You're judging dude based on 13 games in college. It'd be different if he was a 4 year starter and didn't get any better. What more is there to judge him from? Potential isn’t concrete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 3/3/2023 at 12:48 PM, FalconFanSince1969 said: I don't care about his college stats. Dude had zero help as a 21 year old sophomore. He is by all accounts a leader of men that is willing to put in the work to get better and that is way more important than his one season starting as a sophomore.. that Florida team doesnt have a single other offensive skill player going in the top 3-4 rounds. It's not like he's playing with all Americas like young has his whole career It’s not like Richardson was at Georgia Tech playing with 2 and 3 star recruits. He was at a school with top talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, Godzilla1985 said: It’s not like Richardson was at Georgia Tech playing with 2 and 3 star recruits. He was at a school with top talent. What top talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 3/4/2023 at 7:55 PM, FalconFanSince1969 said: What top talent? Florida has top 10 recruiting classes evry year. That’s a lot of 4 star and 5 star talent. Whose to say those receivers would not have played better with a more accurate QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerhill Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Godzilla1985 said: Florida has top 10 recruiting classes every year. That’s a lot of 4 star and 5 star talent. Whose to say those receivers would not have played better with a more accurate QB. Not to completely derail this thread about Ridder, but Florida just went 6-7 (after going 6-7 the previous season, too), had the 3rd worst defense in the SEC, looked completely pathetic in the bowl game without Richardson, and in general is at its lowest point talent-wise since the 80s if not the 70s. Edited March 6 by Summerhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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