gazoo Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 What is considered quarterback purgatory may be evolving in the NFL Falcons may be on the cutting edge of an ever-changing landscape with Desmond Ridder The Falcoholic- (this is just part of the story, here is link for full article https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2023/3/2/23619021/what-is-considered-quarterback-purgatory-may-be-evolving-in-the-nfl-desmond-ridder-falcons Quarterback purgatory is a place few NFL teams seek to find themselves. In the past, this undesirable province was reserved for teams lacking high-level quarterbacks that could reliably lead them to perennial playoff contention. Yet times may be changing. In the future, limbo may be reserved mainly for teams that lack salary-cap flexibility at the position. The Atlanta Falcons are in a position to avoid such a fate if they commit to Desmond Ridder as their starter moving forward. Cheap QBs achieved at an unprecedented level in 2022 Notably, the 2022 NFL season saw a number of teams make deep postseason runs with quarterbacks on rookie contracts. Three of the final four teams (Cincinnati Bengals, Philadelphia Eagles, and San Francisco 49ers) competing in the conference championship games had starting quarterbacks on rookie deals. There were nine teams that made the postseason in 2022 helmed by a quarterback on a rookie deal or a comparably cheap veteran such as the Seattle Seahawks with Geno Smith. That’s more than the combined total of the two previous years, which saw four teams each year reach the postseason with such an advantage. It suggests a new, developing trend in the NFL that is a stark change from the past. Then, it was mainly established quarterbacks making top dollar that were regularly putting their teams in playoff contention and guiding deep postseason runs. Yet, one could claim that 2022 represented an anomaly as opposed to a sign of things to come. Time will of course tell, but I lean towards this trend continuing. One only has to observe the current quarterback landscape in the NFL to see plenty of disadvantaged teams that are currently paying a premium for their quarterbacks. When looking at the quarterbacks set to have the highest cap hits in the league in 2023, teams like the Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills appear to be the outliers since they aren’t complaining about having to pay Patrick Mahomes ($49.3 million) and Josh Allen ($39.8 million). FalconJim, Lowndesfalc, theProf and 10 others 9 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mazetti Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Draft around Ridder for a couple seasons if he can hold his performance last PS and the final four last season.......... Let's GO!......And build a D and OL. ShoNuff, Killing Floor, TheRisen999 and 9 others 8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 3-14 the previous year. Hurts, Mac Jones, Kyler Something has to happen more than once for it to be a trend. ChickenBiscuit, ShoNuff, tbhawksfan and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood all the way! Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 If we can build a competitive team that can compliment each other (along with proper coaching), it makes a qbs job that much easier making the position less demanding JDaveG, gazoo, quickzero and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 "Cheap QBs achieved at an unprecedented level in 2022" So with the running QB craze the 40 yard dash enthusiasts kept promising us "the league is changing, pocket QBs are a thing of the past" So will those same running quarterback crazed fans suggest the league is changing again to cheap QBs like Ridder? The article suggests Ridder may be on the cutting edge of this new trend. Having a QB on a rookie contract also allows you to spend more money on pass rushers, CBs and linemen. Sarkisian told me friend shortly after leaving the team that the Falcons real issue was having too much money tied up in too few players. I believe there is merit to that argument. TheRisen999, Freddies 3rd Cuz and Tim Mazetti 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 33 minutes ago, gazoo said: "Cheap QBs achieved at an unprecedented level in 2022" So with the running QB craze the 40 yard dash enthusiasts kept promising us "the league is changing, pocket QBs are a thing of the past" So will those same running quarterback crazed fans suggest the league is changing again to cheap QBs like Ridder? The article suggests Ridder may be on the cutting edge of this new trend. Having a QB on a rookie contract also allows you to spend more money on pass rushers, CBs and linemen. Sarkisian told me friend shortly after leaving the team that the Falcons real issue was having too much money tied up in too few players. I believe there is merit to that argument. Oh yeah, cutting edge, no one's ever thought of trying to save money at quarterback by starting a guy on a rookie contract. Kaptain Krazy, Summerhill, ShoNuff and 6 others 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 29 minutes ago, Serge said: Oh yeah, cutting edge, no one's ever thought of trying to save money at quarterback by starting a guy on a rookie contract. I can post the article, but I can’t understand it for you. RING OF HONOR, TheRisen999, Negative-Nancy and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 42 minutes ago, Serge said: Oh yeah, cutting edge, no one's ever thought of trying to save money at quarterback by starting a guy on a rookie contract. Falcons are the worst geniuses ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 21 minutes ago, gazoo said: I can post the article, but I can’t understand it. Fify. Negative-Nancy, falconsd56, Tim Mazetti and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpac Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 *Looks at source* TheFalconholic Might as well be written by somebody here on TAFT in the “Ridder is better than Hurts” thread and uploaded to their personal blog to be passed off as credible writing. In all seriousness. We can again do the same thing with a rookie first round QB. So there’s nothing really new or groundbreaking here. ShoNuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgMania Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 OP can post good thread and the same few come in to call Ridder trash like clockwork. Get a hobby. Freddies 3rd Cuz, gazoo, TheRisen999 and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, BigDawgMania said: OP can post good thread and the same few come in to call Ridder trash like clockwork. Get a hobby. Quote the post calling ridder trash so we can see it. Kaptain Krazy, tbhawksfan, jetpac and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 17 minutes ago, BigDawgMania said: OP can post good thread and the same few come in to call Ridder trash like clockwork. Get a hobby. Often the same posters who loved Mariota so much they claimed we had a shot at the Super Bowl middle of last year 🤣🤣🤣 The ignore function works great! 😂 Negative-Nancy, TheRisen999, Freddies 3rd Cuz and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mazetti Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, BigDawgMania said: OP can post good thread and the same few come in to call Ridder trash like clockwork. Get a hobby. Yep. He is vary far from trash. ShoNuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mazetti Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Quote the post calling ridder trash so we can see it. You are right....I haven't seen such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddies 3rd Cuz Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 hours ago, gazoo said: "Cheap QBs achieved at an unprecedented level in 2022" So with the running QB craze the 40 yard dash enthusiasts kept promising us "the league is changing, pocket QBs are a thing of the past" So will those same running quarterback crazed fans suggest the league is changing again to cheap QBs like Ridder? The article suggests Ridder may be on the cutting edge of this new trend. Having a QB on a rookie contract also allows you to spend more money on pass rushers, CBs and linemen. Sarkisian told me friend shortly after leaving the team that the Falcons real issue was having too much money tied up in too few players. I believe there is merit to that argument. Absolutely there is merit to that argument....we got TOP HEAVY especially with MR and JJ. Craz fans or not - the NFL is not going to be dominated by pocket passers in the future. Those days are over....OVER. One will still come along here and there but it will be far and tween. Even Brock Purdy can make all the off script throws. Athletic QB's that can extend plays, improvise, convert first downs running, make the off platform throws are the QB's of the future. It's been coming for a while and its here. QB's will eventually be as plentiful as RBs and WRs. More and more QB's drafted after round one will start winning jobs and play on 4-5 yrs contracts. Football is and has been for several years a throw it around game. It started several years ago in youth and middle school and the time is here to reap the benefits. gazoo, Ringo93 and Kaptain Krazy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 27 minutes ago, Freddies 3rd Cuz said: Absolutely there is merit to that argument....we got TOP HEAVY especially with MR and JJ. Craz fans or not - the NFL is not going to be dominated by pocket passers in the future. Those days are over....OVER. One will still come along here and there but it will be far and tween. Even Brock Purdy can make all the off script throws. Athletic QB's that can extend plays, improvise, convert first downs running, make the off platform throws are the QB's of the future. It's been coming for a while and its here. QB's will eventually be as plentiful as RBs and WRs. More and more QB's drafted after round one will start winning jobs and play on 4-5 yrs contracts. Football is and has been for several years a throw it around game. It started several years ago in youth and middle school and the time is here to reap the benefits. I understand your point about the QB having mobility ( much like Ridder has,) but if your QB can’t beat a defense from the pocket, he’s not going to last a long time and will fizzle out against the NFLs best defenses which he’d see in the playoffs. I don’t ever see this changing. quickzero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerhill Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 The QB on a rookie contract has been a valuable asset for a long time. What I think is one of the more interesting things going on which I can’t find one way to explain is it overall seems there are a lot more pretty good QBs these days. There are barely any truly bad QBs, if there are any at all. These days QB purgatory is spending a ton of money on a QB who is only pretty good when someone like Taylor Heinecke is pretty good for next to nothing and barely anyone even wants him. Freddies 3rd Cuz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Lol, Once I saw the title, I knew this had to be from some homerific Falcons fan site Clark Kent™ and Dr Long Shot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 It can be done, but you need to build a killer roster around them. And even then, the 9'ers have had the best roster for years and still haven't sniffed the SB. The Eagles were probably runner up and they lost. So it can be done, but it's just as difficult to pull off as finding a Mahomes or Brady is. Kaptain Krazy and quickzero 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, Lornoth said: It can be done, but you need to build a killer roster around them. And even then, the 9'ers have had the best roster for years and still haven't sniffed the SB. The Eagles were probably runner up and they lost. So it can be done, but it's just as difficult to pull off as finding a Mahomes or Brady is. They were in it in 2019 and were one game away from being there this year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Moist Words said: They were in it in 2019 and were one game away from being there this year though. Of course. If you have the best roster in the league you will be close. I'm just saying even with the best squad they haven't won because their QB situation has been dire. And there's no guarantee you're building the best roster even if you skimp on QB. That takes a lot of things going right. And we have a very long way to go from where we are now... lol Either route you take is difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 59 minutes ago, Freddies 3rd Cuz said: QB's will eventually be as plentiful as RBs and WRs. More and more QB's drafted after round one will start winning jobs and play on 4-5 yrs contracts. Football is and has been for several years a throw it around game. It started several years ago in youth and middle school and the time is here to reap the benefits. I don't know that I believe that to be true. There's a cerebral part of playing QB that you either have or you don't where as you can at least get by on instincts in other positions if you possess the right physical traits. In a league where the freaks of the freaks play and a multi billion dollar industry has an issue finding 32 people a year who can play the QB position at the level required.......I just don't know if I believe your stance here. Freddies 3rd Cuz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddies 3rd Cuz Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Okay but what changes the cerebral part? What I'm saying is QB's from all ages have been playing the position in a different way for several years now. Kids are football 38 minutes ago, Moist Words said: I don't know that I believe that to be true. There's a cerebral part of playing QB that you either have or you don't where as you can at least get by on instincts in other positions if you possess the right physical traits. In a league where the freaks of the freaks play and a multi billion dollar industry has an issue finding 32 people a year who can play the QB position at the level required.......I just don't know if I believe your stance here. smarter and better coached. There's so much more to offseason now at all ages. Kids are being groomed and specialized at specific positions. In a lot of cases the most athletic kids who can run and throw are being taught the position. It just adds so much more to the position. It's the new trend and it's here to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddies 3rd Cuz Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, gazoo said: I understand your point about the QB having mobility ( much like Ridder has,) but if your QB can’t beat a defense from the pocket, he’s not going to last a long time and will fizzle out against the NFLs best defenses which he’d see in the playoffs. I don’t ever see this changing. Yep I'm with you about that...but the ones beating you from the pocket can run and beat you more than one way. Joe Burrow Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen Justin Hubert Trevor Lance Ruseel Wilson Aaron Rodgers Brock Purdy Jimmy Grappolo Kyler Murray Justin Fields - jury still out on pocket passing Desaun Watson Lamar Jackson Kenny Picket Daniel Jones Dak Prescott Jaylen Hurts I know I left some out but all of these guys can run extend plays and beat you from the pocket. Edited March 3 by Freddies 3rd Cuz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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