falcndave Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/22/2023 at 12:32 PM, autigerfan said: My biggest concern is it would prohibit us from giving Ridder his fair shake with a former high pick looking over his shoulder. I don't like Darnold, but I also don't like "giving" Ridder anything. He showed enough to earn the right to compete, nothing more imo. Malachore, Vandy, Swayzee and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 21 hours ago, Vandy said: Plus he’s just 25 years old. I’ve never been a fan, but I’d rather Darnold be our backup than most of the names I’ve seen thrown around in here lately. Agreed. He looked more than serviceable for the Panties. Unless we bring in some really smart old-head vet to coach up Ridder (like Henne at KC) then Darnold is a good backup. k-train and Vandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Bobby Wagner MilleniumFalcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Ridder is my guy going into 2023 for a host of reasons. instead of blowing the resources on bringing in another starter level QB, we continue using those resources building the team around the QB position. The absolute worse case scenario is Ridder flames out and we likely have much better roster to lure a good veteran FA next year. So I wouldn’t be overtly pressing from a starting FA or draft pick QB, but if something falls in our lap out there that won’t cripple our efforts to rebuild the other parts of the roster of course we’d have to look at that. The way I see this shaking out is, we’ll bring in an older vet to back up Ridder this season and act somewhat as an assistant QBs coach, obviously be ready to play if Ridder gets hurt. Drunken Minotaur Zebra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 33 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: Bobby Wagner Rams releasing LB Bobby Wagner after one season Published: Feb 23, 2023 at 05:12 PM Eric Edholm One year ago, Bobby Wagner hit free agency for the first time in his decade-long NFL career. He's now set to be a free agent for the second time in as many offseasons. The Rams are releasing Wagner after one season in Los Angeles, NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero reported Thursday, per a source. Wagner's release will not occur until the start of the new league year on March 15, NFL Network Insider Mike Garafolo notes. The 32-year-old gets an early look at the free-agent market and will be able to shop himself at the beginning of free agency. This appears to be a salary-cutting move by the Rams, who are currently more than $14 million above the salary cap, according to Over The Cap. The Rams had signed Wagner to a five-year, $50 million deal last April. He received $20 million in guarantees, which included $10 million guaranteed at signing. Both his 2022 base salary and 2023 roster bonus ($3.5 million) were fully guaranteed. According to Over The Cap, the Rams would take a $7.5 million dead-money hit this year but also would receive $5 million in additional cap space. Wagner started all 17 games for the Rams in 2022, logging a career-best six sacks while adding 140 tackles (10 for losses), two interceptions and five passes defensed. Prior to joining the Rams, Wagner spent 10 seasons with the Seattle Seahawks. In 151 games (150 starts), Wagner totaled 1,381 tackles, 23.5 sacks, 11 interceptions (one pick six), six forced fumbles, nine recoveries and one safety. He earned first-team All-Pro honors six times in that span and led the Seahawks to a victory in Super Bowl XLVIII in the 2013 season. https://www.nfl.com/news/rams-releasing-lb-bobby-wagner-after-one-season#:~:text=One year ago%2C Bobby Wagner,reported Thursday%2C per a source. Tribal Chief and Knight of God 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Teams that have a lot of $ = best fit brilliant analysis falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 12 hours ago, theProf said: Appears that Vikes might try to re-sign Tomlinson. Vikings, Dalvin Tomlinson Extend Contract Negotiating Window By Eric Strack | Feb 22, 202300: Earlier this week, we thought (DT) Dalvin Tomlinson became a free agent. That’s because his contract was scheduled to void on Monday, which would have replaced his future services, as a Minnesota Viking, with a $7.5 million dead cap penalty. But on Wednesday morning, Field Yates (ESPN) is reporting that the Vikings and Tomlinson reached an agreement to extend that deadline from February 20 to March 15, allowing the two sides to continue extension talks without that $7.5 million in dead cap hitting the books. @FieldYates Vikings DT Dalvin Tomlinson’s deal was set to void in recent days, which would have pushed $7.5M of dead money onto their 2023 cap. The team & Tomlinson agreed to move the void date to 3/15. This buys more time for a possible extension that avoids all $7.5M hitting the 2023 cap. This news makes me believe that Tomlinson is more likely to sign an extension in Minnesota, than he is to leave for free agency. If signing Dalvin Tomlinson wasn’t Kwesi Adofo-Mansah’s priority, there would have been no point in extending the void deadline. Dead cap money doesn’t just go away, even if the Vikings bring Tomlinson back. It does, however, allow Kwesi to push $5 million of that penalty into the future. https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/vikings-dalvin-tomlinson-void-date/ I don't blame them. He's the best of the bunch. Sui_Generis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, theProf said: Rams releasing LB Bobby Wagner after one season Published: Feb 23, 2023 at 05:12 PM Eric Edholm One year ago, Bobby Wagner hit free agency for the first time in his decade-long NFL career. He's now set to be a free agent for the second time in as many offseasons. The Rams are releasing Wagner after one season in Los Angeles, NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero reported Thursday, per a source. Wagner's release will not occur until the start of the new league year on March 15, NFL Network Insider Mike Garafolo notes. The 32-year-old gets an early look at the free-agent market and will be able to shop himself at the beginning of free agency. This appears to be a salary-cutting move by the Rams, who are currently more than $14 million above the salary cap, according to Over The Cap. The Rams had signed Wagner to a five-year, $50 million deal last April. He received $20 million in guarantees, which included $10 million guaranteed at signing. Both his 2022 base salary and 2023 roster bonus ($3.5 million) were fully guaranteed. According to Over The Cap, the Rams would take a $7.5 million dead-money hit this year but also would receive $5 million in additional cap space. Wagner started all 17 games for the Rams in 2022, logging a career-best six sacks while adding 140 tackles (10 for losses), two interceptions and five passes defensed. Prior to joining the Rams, Wagner spent 10 seasons with the Seattle Seahawks. In 151 games (150 starts), Wagner totaled 1,381 tackles, 23.5 sacks, 11 interceptions (one pick six), six forced fumbles, nine recoveries and one safety. He earned first-team All-Pro honors six times in that span and led the Seahawks to a victory in Super Bowl XLVIII in the 2013 season. https://www.nfl.com/news/rams-releasing-lb-bobby-wagner-after-one-season#:~:text=One year ago%2C Bobby Wagner,reported Thursday%2C per a source. My hope now is for David Oneymata gazoo, Sui_Generis and k-train 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, Knight of God said: My hope now is for David Oneymata Yes. Him or Khalen Saunders please. k-train, FalconofShadows and Knight of God 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I would sign Dean and Tomlinson in a heartbeat. We have needed a true impact NT for soooooo long. And 2 shutdown corners would do wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando C. Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/23/2023 at 7:58 PM, Knight of God said: My hope now is for David Oneymata I like Ioannidis and Omenihu.... should come "cheap" and would be productive here... Knight of God and Killing Floor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 The Bears got 100 million in cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I would hope if the team sees both CB and DE as huge needs, they address both in FA pre-draft. You never know what will happen by pick 8, and relying on the draft to fill big holes is how you end up with JA98. I don’t see CB2 as nearly as big a hole as Edge with Heyward still under contract and a potential budding star in Alford. (Reminds me of Grimes’ come up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/23/2023 at 1:54 PM, falcndave said: I don't like Darnold, but I also don't like "giving" Ridder anything. He showed enough to earn the right to compete, nothing more imo. Great post, and well said. falcndave and falconsd56 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/22/2023 at 10:32 AM, autigerfan said: My biggest concern is it would prohibit us from giving Ridder his fair shake with a former high pick looking over his shoulder. He should look over his shoulder. He hasn't done anything to warrant not looking over his shoulder. He should have to compete. I am not sure if Darnold is that guy to do it but I like the general philosophy. Swayzee and Killing Floor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/23/2023 at 4:16 PM, RYNE said: Teams that have a lot of $ = best fit brilliant analysis Funny how that works isn't it? Killing Floor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/22/2023 at 3:12 PM, Killing Floor said: Same. He’s not half the quarterback that Mariota is. Please no. But any other name on that list in OP is ok. I don't think Darnold can be blamed for not having the butt-pass in his repertoire, that's a very specialized skill-set. 🤣 But if Darnold didn't work out, Smith could transition him to TE. We'd be the only team with back-up dual ex-QB TE's. Okay, I'll see myself out. gazoo and Killing Floor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 25 minutes ago, PokerSteve said: I don't think Darnold can be blamed for not having the butt-pass in his repertoire, that's a very specialized skill-set That’s Immaculate Reception level rarity. Marcus is the GOAT of butt pass. We should go fund me a statue and put it in Eugene! PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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