TheRisen999 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) by Grayson Freestone One of the NFL’s most heated rivalries is between the Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints. Neither side wants to see the other be successful (so basically both sides have been happy for a few years now) and anytime you see the other team make a dumb move, it feels like a win for your team. Quarterback Derek Carr is now a free agent following a weird end to his time in Las Vegas. Rumors have been swirling around that the Saints will sign him, which would be doing the Falcons a big favor. The Saints being led by Derek Carr would be a huge win for the Atlanta Falcons Derek Carr is a good quarterback, but that’s just it, he is good, not great. If the Saints sign him, they are just dooming their franchise for the next few years, which would be music to the Falcons’ ears. Would the Saints be a better team with Carr? Yes, but in this day and age, the NFL is being run by great quarterbacks. Just look at the past five Super Bowls and who the quarterbacks were, Patrick Mahomes (3 times), Jalen Hurts, Joe Burrow, and Tom Brady (2 times). There have been only three quarterbacks (Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, & Jimmy Garoppolo) whom you can say didn’t necessarily carry their team to a championship. Derek Carr is closer to Jared Goff than he is to Mahomes or Hurts. The best thing that the Saints can do for the Falcons would be to sign Derek Carr. The Saints have no cap space and a contract to land Carr will not be cheap. The Saints do not have a good enough roster for Carr to make a Super Bowl with and there isn’t a way to fix that with their cap situation, especially after committing money to the recently-released quarterback. So, Atlanta Falcons fans, beg for the New Orleans Saints to sign Derek Carr as it would put them way behind in constructing a championship-caliber roster. I’ve been saying this exact same thing. A lot of analysts believe signing Carr would make the Taints the favorite to win the NFC South bout they’re only basing that on name recognition and little more. If we have another good offseason there’s nothing stopping us from winning the division and going to the playoffs next season. Edited February 19 by TheRisen999 HASHBROWN3, Killing Floor, ShoNuff and 3 others 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Derek Carr doesn’t need to be closer to be anything like prescribed he just has to come in and do a job. The idea that it’s an advantage the Saints signing him as being an advantage is a misnomer in a QB driven league. FalconJim, Herr Doktor, Falcster and 2 others 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Lol he is miles better than any Saints QB since Brees retired. Edit to add that he’s a better QB than the Saints currently have, better than the group that has beaten us 3 of the last 4. There are no easy rides. Diesel_Bird, Falcons_Frenzy, PokerSteve and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 So delusional. ShoNuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) Grayson Freestone you should stop writing because this makes zero sense. Edited February 19 by Swayzee FalconJim, ShoNuff, Diesel_Bird and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 27 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: Derek Carr doesn’t need to be closer to be anything like prescribed he just has to come in and do a job. The idea that it’s an advantage the Saints signing him as being an advantage is a misnomer in a QB driven league. When you have a top 3 guy, like we apparently do based on what I have read around here recently, you don't worry about the other 29 teams and who is behind center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 27 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: Derek Carr doesn’t need to be closer to be anything like prescribed he just has to come in and do a job. The idea that it’s an advantage the Saints signing him as being an advantage is a misnomer in a QB driven league. Yes, signing Derek Carr makes the Taints better at QB. However, like this last SuperBowl proved, you need to FULL ROSTER as well as the QB to make it and then win it all. With that said, I see exact where this article is going as his signing Will completely hamper them from upgrading and actually will do the same to retain the talent they do have for years to come. FactsPlusTax, FalconJim, TheRisen999 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Does Carr make Saints an NFC South contender? Sure. Does Carr make Saints a real SB contender? I can't really say that he does. FalconJim, falconidae and Ezekiel 25:17 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, DonDaLuvMaker said: Does Carr make Saints an NFC South contender? Sure. Does Carr make Saints a real SB contender? I can't really say that he does. Cant be the latter, without being the former first. FalconJim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I was hoping Carr goes to Carolina and Mayfield to the Saints. Or any of the 2 can also go to Tampa. Just keep them away from Stroud. Freddies 3rd Cuz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Swayzee said: Cant be the latter, without being the former first. That's just it though, I think Carr makes them a decent team but not a championship one. Carr has been both good and bad, He's like Alex Smith with a stronger arm. Doesn't matter, hopefully the Falcons end them regardless. Edited February 19 by DonDaLuvMaker celtiksage, ItsJustMe, Swayzee and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 That roundhouse kick was devastating! DonDaLuvMaker, TheRisen999, Skeetbird and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 32 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: Yes, signing Derek Carr makes the Taints better at QB. However, like this last SuperBowl proved, you need to FULL ROSTER as well as the QB to make it and then win it all. With that said, I see exact where this article is going as his signing Will completely hamper them from upgrading and actually will do the same to retain the talent they do have for years to come. QB is a good start though no. Especially when the division is influx. Onething is for sure Loomis works miracles with his cap and seemingly puts out competitive teams regardless. Vandy and TheRisen999 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: QB is a good start though no. Especially when the division is influx. Onething is for sure Loomis works miracles with his cap and seemingly puts out competitive teams regardless. Yeah, but eventually Saints will have to really bite the bullet on a long torturous rebuild to set everything right by the time Loomis is done. Can't wait.... TheRisen999, Ezekiel 25:17, Killing Floor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Killing Floor said: Lol he is Mike’s better than any Saints QB since Brees retired. Edit to add that he’s a better QB than the Saints currently have, better than the group that has beaten us 3 of the last 4. There are no easy rides. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampyMux12 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 He lost me at Jalen Hurts carries the Eagles... Dude's good, but that team was absolutely loaded. TBH, outside of maybe Joe Burrow, nobody is anywhere near Patrick Mahomes. TheRisen999 and Freddies 3rd Cuz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampyMux12 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 And also, the entire premise of this article is flawed... any team in your division getting vastly better at the most important spot on the team is never good for you. Pacific_Falcon and Kaptain Krazy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 41 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: QB is a good start though no. Especially when the division is influx. Onething is for sure Loomis works miracles with his cap and seemingly puts out competitive teams regardless. Well he going to have to be a miracle worker this coming season. Him and the Sucs GM. And it CAN BE both a start and an end, for the reasons I mentioned previously. TheRisen999 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRisen999 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: So delusional. If they were talking about Carr being able to be a good QB I’d agree but the focus of the article is how signing him could further set the team back financially as well as from a team building aspect.. that’s pretty much true. Eventually continuing to kick the can down the road is gonna cost them a big toe. Edited February 20 by TheRisen999 Tim Mazetti, FalconJim and Ezekiel 25:17 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoNuff Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, DonDaLuvMaker said: Does Carr make Saints an NFC South contender? Sure. Does Carr make Saints a real SB contender? I can't really say that he does. Better yet, can the New Orleans Saints, who are currently $52.3M over the salary cap, actually afford Derek Carr? Not at all. I do not understand why this is even a thought. Another typical blog from that web site.... Vandy, FalconJim, DonDaLuvMaker and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 You guys act like Carr wouldn't be, by far, the best QB in the division. Vandy, Falcons Fan MVP, FalconJim and 2 others 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 17 minutes ago, ShoNuff said: Better yet, can the New Orleans Saints, who are currently $52.3M over the salary cap, actually afford Derek Carr? Not at all. I do not understand why this is even a thought. Another typical blog from that web site.... What all the folks on here that think this will be good for the Taints because he is an upgrade over everything they had last year are leaving out is… His agent and Carr know this as well and WILL be asking for fair market compensation which would easily take that 52+ up to close to 70(even if he comes in on a team friendly deal, they have to make room for a draft class)or more with his cap hit. So unless the league creates a soft cap during this off season(the CBA is already in place so this can’t happen!), I don’t see how they are going to field a team as good as we had last year if they sign him. And we were thought of as the worse roster in the league by many. Oh and he is injury prone. Just wanted to throw that out there as well. FalconJim, PokerSteve, ShoNuff and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Lornoth said: You guys act like Carr wouldn't be, by far, the best QB in the division. Who said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: Who said that? I said act like, not say. Lots of people calling Carr way lesser than he is in these threads about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 8 minutes ago, Lornoth said: I said act like, not say. Lots of people calling Carr way lesser than he is in these threads about him. I think folks are acting more like the Raiders didn’t have any talent, than folks are acting like Carr wouldn’t be the best QB in this division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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