autigerfan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 He had great production the year before last. Anybody know much about him and if he could be a diamond in the rough? He looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy right now. FalconJim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Bird Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Guys a giant. Pffs analysis on him wasn’t great at the senior bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS The talent is there as a sideline-to-sideline playmaker. Made Bruce Feldman's Freak's List - ranked #13. He wrote "Now a 6-7, 260-pound senior with a 6-10 wingspan, Carter piled up 18.5 TFLs, 15.5 sacks, and four forced fumbles in 2021. Carter’s length is only more amazing when factoring in that he also blazed a 4.2 in his pro agility test this offseason. Army coaches say that when Carter’s doing change of direction work in the summer, he finishes in the top three with their skill guys. They also say his reaction time and processing speed is unmatched." He’s a fluid, fast, and aggressive tackling machine, an elite athlete considering his size (he has room to add more weight to his frame). Carter has quickness in his hands and uses his length effectively. He can be used as a rangy run defender inside, instinctive when it comes to locating the ball with the quickness to get to it before blockers can react at the second level. He’s an explosive mover, and Carter shows body control and flexibility as a pass rusher. He can dip and bend around the corner, and he maintains speed while he does. He’s elite coming out of his stance, and he shows the ability to ward off blockers with quick, violent hands and possesses a massive wing span Carter has good movement skills with a decent range. And he proved capable of holding up in zone coverage and can be used as an effective A-gap blitzer. Not just an edge rusher but is a complete linebacker who is surprisingly smooth when it comes to dropping into coverage defending the pass A smart player with the patience to let a play develop before committing SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES Hips are a bit high, arms are long, and waist is narrow, which limits his ability to anchor and turn His upper body is a lot more developed than his lower half leaving him at the mercy of smaller powerful blockers in the run game Height leaves him susceptible to cut blocks Carter must learn to defeat with his hands. He’s perfectly capable of converting speed into power when he gets to the ball, but too often he slips off tackles or turns into a grab-and-drag tackler rather than a hitter, failing to keep his legs driving through the hit. Biggest issue that will hurt Carter's draft stock is his commitment to the military where traditionally they were not allowed to play in the NFL. Although since 2019, when the Department of Defense instituted a new policy that allows any service academy athlete to request a deferment of their required military service until the end of their NFL days. The granting of such a request is not guaranteed and he would still be obligated to be called back into service when required - making it a gamble for any pro team PLAYER COMPARISON Jason Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artys Arryn Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 He's a great project for our new DC. He needs to put weight on his frame and learn technique. One theory I've heard is that Army training didn't really allow him to develop the right build. Reminds me a bit of Maxx Crosby coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 19 minutes ago, Artys Arryn said: He's a great project for our new DC. He needs to put weight on his frame and learn technique. One theory I've heard is that Army training didn't really allow him to develop the right build. Reminds me a bit of Maxx Crosby coming out. Yeah, at the military academy, Army Football isn't really high on the list of priorities except where physical fitness is concerned. They can run though, having a mile or so 12-18% grade hill that they run almost daily. And until recently they weren't even draftable. Seems like Detroit drafted a guy from USMA 2-3 years ago, maybe 4 years ago, in I believe the second round, and the Air Force sued/blocked his NFL contract and won and the guy was forced to serve instead of going to the NFL. It sounds like though, there's been some rule changes since then that allows the service academies to now be drafted. I mean an easy solution is to put them in the Reserves. As an AGR Soldier, I've been assigned to Reserve units that had Olympic team Triathlon athletes, Women's Olympic Bobsled team athletes and a Miss America winner, and you know we didn't make them come to work when they were training or competing. 🤣🤣 Was also on a base in Iraq with an Air Force unit that had a Supermodel. They sent her back home in like a week, cuz she was a crowd magnet, and no one would work when she was in the AO (worse than a USO show). 😆😅 So yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 He's good. We want him on this team. It's a Calais Campbell situation where he has rare length and athleticism you can't teach. If he's there in the second round, he's a terrific option. Sadly, he probably falls in that crack between #8 and our second rounder. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Artys Arryn said: project This. He’s got potential. That’s not negative. He’s got more pros than cons. Andre the giant fits into our nickname scheme. Seriously let’s see how he stacks up as the draft gets closer. 3-4 round? Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artys Arryn Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 8 minutes ago, Killing Floor said: This. He’s got potential. That’s not negative. He’s got more pros than cons. Andre the giant fits into our nickname scheme. Seriously let’s see how he stacks up as the draft gets closer. 3-4 round? I think 3rd is realistic. Not sure he makes it to 4 Killing Floor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I think he sucks, frankly. Guys salivating over "potential" when he was getting single blocked by Air Force TEs. Hard pass Knight of God and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I just laughed at the "negatives" on a 6-7' dude. "Hips are a bit high",....." Well no ****. WH dirtybird, Killing Floor, Herr Doktor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 14 minutes ago, Moist Words said: I just laughed at the "negatives" on a 6-7' dude. "Hips are a bit high",....." Well no ****. Yeah that is a pretty good one. Sun: Pros, warms earth Cons, hot Xero, hotlanta, ATL Fan in the DMV and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I wonder what Andre Bruce II is up to... Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Francis York Morgan said: I think he sucks, frankly. Guys salivating over "potential" when he was getting single blocked by Air Force TEs. Hard pass PFF graded him a pass rush grade of 80.8 for the season, and he had an 85.2 against Air Force specifically. So, if that happened on a play or two, it was a rarity. Carter wrecked teams so much in 2021 when he had 15 sacks (and nearly 60 pressures) that they built blocking schemes against him in 2022. My only concern with him is that he's night and day better as a pass rusher than run defender. Not coincidentally, I view a trade back that leads to Nolan Smith and him as a perfect pairing for us (or somebody). They're perfect bookends. Killing Floor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminafalcon Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 9 hours ago, celtiksage said: Yeah, at the military academy, Army Football isn't really high on the list of priorities except where physical fitness is concerned. They can run though, having a mile or so 12-18% grade hill that they run almost daily. And until recently they weren't even draftable. Seems like Detroit drafted a guy from USMA 2-3 years ago, maybe 4 years ago, in I believe the second round, and the Air Force sued/blocked his NFL contract and won and the guy was forced to serve instead of going to the NFL. It sounds like though, there's been some rule changes since then that allows the service academies to now be drafted. I mean an easy solution is to put them in the Reserves. As an AGR Soldier, I've been assigned to Reserve units that had Olympic team Triathlon athletes, Women's Olympic Bobsled team athletes and a Miss America winner, and you know we didn't make them come to work when they were training or competing. 🤣🤣 Was also on a base in Iraq with an Air Force unit that had a Supermodel. They sent her back home in like a week, cuz she was a crowd magnet, and no one would work when she was in the AO (worse than a USO show). 😆😅 So yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens with him. I believe they have to work in more at home roles such as recruiters in offseason etc celtiksage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 8 hours ago, jidady said: PFF graded him a pass rush grade of 80.8 for the season, and he had an 85.2 against Air Force specifically. So, if that happened on a play or two, it was a rarity. Carter wrecked teams so much in 2021 when he had 15 sacks (and nearly 60 pressures) that they built blocking schemes against him in 2022. My only concern with him is that he's night and day better as a pass rusher than run defender. Not coincidentally, I view a trade back that leads to Nolan Smith and him as a perfect pairing for us (or somebody). They're perfect bookends. I actually watched him, but ok. Nolan Smith is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 hours ago, jidady said: PFF graded him a pass rush grade of 80.8 for the season, and he had an 85.2 against Air Force specifically. So, if that happened on a play or two, it was a rarity. Carter wrecked teams so much in 2021 when he had 15 sacks (and nearly 60 pressures) that they built blocking schemes against him in 2022. My only concern with him is that he's night and day better as a pass rusher than run defender. Not coincidentally, I view a trade back that leads to Nolan Smith and him as a perfect pairing for us (or somebody). They're perfect bookends. How is that a concern for any fan of the Falcons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 15 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said: I think he sucks, frankly. Guys salivating over "potential" when he was getting single blocked by Air Force TEs. Hard pass I'm going back to doing other things now. I knew there was little to say the moment I saw you posting. Carry on. Francis York Morgan and RING OF HONOR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, Knight of God said: I'm going back to doing other things now. I knew there was little to say the moment I saw you posting. Carry on. It kills me too, because I came in really wanting to like him. Army guy with all the measurables? You love to see it. Until you actually see it lol Knight of God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 7 hours ago, Swayzee said: How is that a concern for any fan of the Falcons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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