TheRisen999 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 1. Marcus Mariota Cutting Mariota saves Atlanta $12 million in cap space and allows the veteran to find another landing spot early on this off-season. There is zero chance the Falcons are bringing Mariota back after the way he played as a starter and how he handled getting benched in the final four games of the season. Mariota stepped away from the team after being benched and didn’t return focusing on spending time with his family. This is completely understandable from Mariota’s perspective, however, as a leader, you cannot leave the team when getting benched and fail to help Desmond Ridder and be brought back as the backup. Apart from the obvious issues Atlanta has with Mariota, there is also the fact you cannot have a backup quarterback inside your top ten cap hits if that player cannot even pass the ball consistently. The Falcons should be willing to spend at the position for a top option but Mariota clearly isn’t that and it is time for both sides to move on after a failed reunion in Atlanta. 2. Casey Hayward Unlike Marcus Mariota there is a strong argument to be made for keeping Casey Hayward on the Atlanta roster. The veteran spent most of the season injured and was unable to make the impact alongside A.J. Terrell the Falcons had hoped for. Cutting Hayward saves Atlanta $5 million against the cap and opens up a lot of space, though not enough to bring in a player of Hayward’s ability. This move comes down to what Atlanta believes the veteran has left in the tank. After an injury-shortened season is Hayward capable of playing at a high level well into his thirties? This is a question Atlanta must weigh when deciding the veteran’s future. Even if Hayward is close to the level he was before the injury it is a depth improvement for Atlanta and offers a young position group veteran leadership. Keeping Hayward should be the direction Atlanta is leaning depending on how the veteran is recovering and what Atlanta deems they could get for the $5 million the cut would save. 3. Feleipe Franks Franks isn’t saving Atlanta much against the cap this cut is all about opening a roster spot. Franks isn’t a backup quarterback and cannot play tight-end well enough to demand a roster spot. Why Franks has been able to keep his roster spot over the past two years remains a mystery. For a coaching staff that has preached you must earn your spot it is an odd decision. The team was willing to part ways with Bryan Edwards at a thin position after weeks of failed production. It has been two seasons of failed production from Franks and it is time to move on. 4. Jalen Mayfield The difference in Atlanta’s offensive line with Jalen and without Jalen the past two seasons speaks for itself. Mayfield was a bad draft pick and clearly a bust. With how many picks the current Atlanta front office has hit on there is zero problem with admitting you were wrong and moving on from an objectively bad player I’m still on the fence about Hayward but the rest of these guys should be cut without question. However, If we can bring in another vet with a better history of being durable and putting up production Hayward can go as well. Especially if it’ll free up another 18million in cap space. If I were Fontenot I wouldn’t think twice about giving these 4 guys the boot 🥾 Edited February 17 by TheRisen999 FalconJim, CADirtyBird, enginerd and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminafalcon Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Minimum players won’t be cut before training camp. Mayfield and franks will make it to training camp whether they make it further well that’s on them The Don™, Mid-Nite-Toker, Drunken Minotaur Zebra and 9 others 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Cutting Frank's and Mayfield saves nothing financially. Freddies 3rd Cuz, hjerry, FalconJim and 4 others 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewcrew Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, Aluminafalcon said: Minimum players won’t be cut before training camp. Mayfield and franks will make it to training camp whether they make it further well that’s on them Yeah, Mayfield and Franks would only save us $2M combined. They will at least get a training camp look to see if they made the jump. They are both super athletic so there is a chance, however small, that one of them makes a leap and figures it out. TheRisen999, FalconJim, Herr Doktor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Mayfield will get every opportunity and Franks had a good block once. arrogantBEAST, tbhawksfan, falconsd56 and 9 others 3 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Cutting Frank's and Mayfield saves nothing financially. Kills a lot of jokes on Sunday afternoons. falconsd56, Faithful Falcon, slick0ne and 9 others 4 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRisen999 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Cutting Frank's and Mayfield saves nothing financially. Valuable roster spots that could be used for players who are actually productive. Edited February 17 by TheRisen999 blizzard_falcon, FalconJim and PokerSteve 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said: Value roster spots that could be used for players who are actually productive. Those two players have more potential than any random player we'd fill the bottom of the roster with going into TC. Vandy, mtldirtybird, blizzard_falcon and 3 others 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRisen999 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Just now, Lornoth said: Those two players have more potential than any random player we'd fill the bottom of the roster with going into TC. I’ll have to disagree, we could just as easily find another Caleb Huntley or Dee Alford in UDFA. Neither Mayfield nor Franks has shown that level of promise. PokerSteve, tbhawksfan, blizzard_falcon and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 29 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said: Better moves: Cut Mariota = $12 million Cut Patterson = $4.25 million Extend Lindstrom = $9 million Restrucutre Jake = $10 million Restructure Grady = $10 million Total Cap added = $45.25 million Total Available 2023 Cap Space = $95 million (without needing to account for rookies) No reason we cant have DaRon Payne DT, Marcus Davenport EDGE, Vonn Bell S, Nate Davis OG, Corey Davis WR, David Montgomery RB, Backup QB Bring back McGary (Franchise Tag or Transition Tag), Oliver, Evans, Pinion, Pruitt, Gossett, Fenton And still fill out the roster.... Edited February 17 by Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Flyin' In DC, FalconJim and Drunken Minotaur Zebra 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said: I’ll have to disagree, we could just as easily find another Caleb Huntley or Dee Alford in UDFA. Neither Mayfield nor Franks has shown that level of promise. If you honestly think Mayfield or Franks are the two worst players on our roster currently then I don't know what to tell you. falconidae, Freddies 3rd Cuz, Vandy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRisen999 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, Lornoth said: If you honestly think Mayfield or Franks are the two worst players on our roster currently then I don't know what to tell you. I didn’t say the worse.. tho I don’t see Mayfield being far off that marker. And what has he shown in the NFL to give you hope that he’s going to make the jump next season. They’ve literally gotten nothing from him over two seasons except mediocre to plain bad play. Like the article said they’ve hit on enough picks that it’s ok to miss on one. I don’t think he beats out Edoga for a spot anyway if they’re bringing in even more competition and you know they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxManBigFan Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Cutting 3 of the 4 doesn’t make much sense. Ok Marcus is gone. TheRisen999 and Freddies 3rd Cuz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRisen999 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 8 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: Better moves: Cut Mariota = $12 million Cut Patterson = $4.25 million Extend Lindstrom = $9 million Restrucutre Jake = $10 million Restructure Grady = $10 million Total Cap added = $45.25 million Total Available 2023 Cap Space = $95 million (without needing to account for rookies) No reason we cant have DaRon Payne DT, Marcus Davenport EDGE, Vonn Bell S, Nate Davis OG, Corey Davis WR, David Montgomery RB, Backup QB Bring back McGary (Franchise Tag or Transition Tag), Oliver, Evans, Pinion, Pruitt, Gossett, Fenton And still fill out the roster.... Why would we cut C.P. to save a measly 4 mill when he’s literally been our whole offense at certain points in both his seasons with us? mtldirtybird, ATLskinjob, Stevo and 12 others 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said: I didn’t say the worse.. tho I don’t see Mayfield being far off that marker. And what has he shown in the NFL to give you hope that he’s going to make the jump next season. They’ve literally gotten nothing from him over two seasons except mediocre to plain bad play. Like the article said they’ve hit on enough picks that it’s ok to miss on one. I don’t think he beats out Edoga for a spot anyway if they’re bringing in even more competition and you know they will. He was always going to be a project and he was injured all last year. If they were going to give up on Mayfield after one season of play they wouldn't have drafted him. mtldirtybird, FalconJim, Mid-Nite-Toker and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I can tell you exactly why they keep players like franks and mayfield "Coach, we gonna cut these scrubs?" "well, we have to have someone to fill the inactive list on game day, might as well be someone on a rookie deal that doesn't matter if they play or not" rounz, FalconJim and Lionzblade 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerhill Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 14 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: Restrucutre Jake = $10 million Restructure Grady = $10 million No way restructure them. Better to use surplus money to keep the future books clean so when those two are gone in a few years we won't still be carrying dead money. Diesel_Bird, jailerx, FalconJim and 5 others 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Could have stopped at 2 players but I guess it needed more context to fill out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 32 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said: Valuable roster spots that could be used for players who are actually productive. And that will be determined in camp. 1989Fan and FalconJim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Do not understand the venom towards Franks. He's an excellent athlete who is switching positions. He wasn't going to make it as a QB, after the 21 season, the team told him, you want a roster spot here, it'll be as a TE. And he said OK. He's played 50 snaps as a TE, With Mariota throwing him the ball. Lets see what he looks like next year with another year of work to become a TE and a real QB throwing him the ball. If he works out, he's a real bargain that helps the team. If he doesn't, he's cut in TC. krsnat1, Mid-Nite-Toker, FalconJim and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Cutting Mayfield is pointless at this point. He saves nothing. See if he comes into camp looking better and stronger. If he doesn't improve at all then you cut him when getting down to 53. FalconJim, TheRisen999, Vandy and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Cutting Mayfield is pointless at this point. He saves nothing. See if he comes into camp looking better and stronger. If he doesn't improve at all then you cut him when getting down to 53. Yeah, people are so impatient when it comes to player development. ATLskinjob, FalconJim and Mid-Nite-Toker 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Mariota clears 12m after being cut. Once we sign players in Free agency these guys will fall off our top 51 in cap space clearing the following amounts: Guidry 1m Mofatt 1m Reid 1m Harrison 940k Bell 940k Bledsoe 940k Darby 940k Hinton 870k Abernathy 870k Anenigh 870k Mabin 870k Ali 750k Baylor 750k Total: About 14mThat brings you to a real cap space amount of 82m right now post Mariota cut. Then if you want to get even more you could cut Hayward (not a fan of this move) and clear another 5m. Lindstrom extension would clear around 3-5m towards the 2023 cap. Grady and Matthews could be restructured and clear anywhere from 12-20m combined. We could get to around 110m in cap space if we really wanted to. rounz, runshoot, FalconJim and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 7 minutes ago, falconidae said: Yeah, people are so impatient when it comes to player development. Yea I'm almost never cutting someone on their rookie contract unless they're doing something detrimental to the team. FalconJim and ATLskinjob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BtK Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I’d keep Hayward at least until the draft. If we pick a cb, maybe I’d move on… TheRisen999, blizzard_falcon and davidneilson1978 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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