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Which position group will go the furthest to positively affect the rest of the defense?.. A lot of us want the team to go DT or Edge in the draft but looking at the draft pool I’m starting to think CB may be the best option as those other positions seem to fizzle out quicker after the first few guys as where CB will still likely have top tier options available to us.

Better CB play will also allow our DT and Edge rushers that extra second they’re needing to get to the QB .. 

So is CB the better value? What do y’all say?football nfl GIF by Atlanta Falcons

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With Fontenot it just depends on BPA does the front office think that the 3rd or 4th best D-Line player is better than the #1 CB on the board? Who knows we might not even go defense with our first pick?? We still haven’t even had the combine/pro days so a lot of these players might slide around after that!

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39 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said:

Which position group will go the furthest to positively affect the rest of the defense?.. A lot of us want the team to go DT or Edge in the draft but looking at the draft pool I’m starting to think CB may be the best option as those other positions seem to fizzle out quicker after the first few guys as where CB will still likely have top tier options available to us.

Better CB play will also allow our DT and Edge rushers that extra second they’re needing to get to the QB .. 

So is CB the better value? What do y’all say?football nfl GIF by Atlanta Falcons

I can get you point. If it's not Will Anderson or Jalen Carter, then we should probably draft one of the top corners. What I don't agree with is better Corner Player will allow our DT and EDGE Players an extra second. There's a reason Great Offensive Linemen has become a commodity. 

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12 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said:

Looking at the defense our new DC cane from, where 5 dbs might be on the field much of the time, I'd say secondary will be a focus.  CB in the first is not crazy talk.

 

Yep

 

I think it's extremely important that the Falcons get a good FS, re-sign Oliver, and add some depth at CB in FA. Draft a CB like Gonzales in the 1st unless someone surprisingly drops to 8.

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Based on Nielsen, and the hiring of Gray, i'd say it's CB in the draft, and FS in free agency. Nielsen comes off as a guy who would be willing to take whatever DL talent and just make them better. 5 and 6 DBs seem like it will be the norm for our defense, so we'll need talented DB's to effectively run what Nielsen wants to do. Gray being hired suggests we want to insure our secondary will be strong enough to cover long enough for the front 4 to get home.

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I liked that we took WR last year and then you saw the run on WRs. To me it felt like Terry had a great feel for what the rest of the teams were going to do and where the value was and getting the guy you wanted.

If Terry feels CB will start the run and getting the guy you want right then is the way to go, Im down with that. If Edge is the key piece and talent drops off after 8, then grab it. So far Im a believer in what Terry is doing. Dimitroff, it felt like he telegraphed ever move he made.

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3 hours ago, TheRisen999 said:

Which position group will go the furthest to positively affect the rest of the defense?.. A lot of us want the team to go DT or Edge in the draft but looking at the draft pool I’m starting to think CB may be the best option as those other positions seem to fizzle out quicker after the first few guys as where CB will still likely have top tier options available to us.

Better CB play will also allow our DT and Edge rushers that extra second they’re needing to get to the QB .. 

So is CB the better value? What do y’all say?football nfl GIF by Atlanta Falcons

The relationship between the front seven getting to the QB and the secondary covering receivers works both ways, but seems to only get mentioned on TATF as if it's unidirectional. 

Better pass rush improves secondary play just as much as better secondary play improves pass rush. 

The Super Bowl had the two teams with the most sacks in the league. Neither were Defenses with elite secondaries "carrying" middling DL. 

I won't be opposed to them taking a CB at #8, but if the logic is 'there are a lot of good corners' then it would also seem there'd be a good cornerback when the Falcons are picking in the 2nd round. 

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4 hours ago, ImElPresidente said:

With Fontenot it just depends on BPA does the front office think that the 3rd or 4th best D-Line player is better than the #1 CB on the board? Who knows we might not even go defense with our first pick?? We still haven’t even had the combine/pro days so a lot of these players might slide around after that!

That’s a good point

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3 hours ago, Faithful Falcon said:

I can get you point. If it's not Will Anderson or Jalen Carter, then we should probably draft one of the top corners. What I don't agree with is better Corner Player will allow our DT and EDGE Players an extra second. There's a reason Great Offensive Linemen has become a commodity. 

That’s a way to look at too but I just believe all of the parts contribute to each other’s success.

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I’d like to see how it stacks after the combine. 
 

But to me it’s a tough call. 
 

Our linebackers are horrendous.  A quality edge would take some of that stress. Our secondary is still just AJ with some dads skipping around watching. 
Our secondary is so bad it makes Casey look ok. 
 

Honestly any DT or LB or S or CB could be called the highest priority. 

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34 minutes ago, Killing Floor said:

I’d like to see how it stacks after the combine. 
 

But to me it’s a tough call. 
 

Our linebackers are horrendous.  A quality edge would take some of that stress. Our secondary is still just AJ with some dads skipping around watching. 
Our secondary is so bad it makes Casey look ok. 
 

Honestly any DT or LB or S or CB could be called the highest priority. 

I agree we need coverage everywhere. 

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We have plenty of gaps to fill.  BPA.  Our top priority should be on a game-changing player.  That would be DE, DT, LB, or CB.  I don't want to go WR with our 8th overall, but I wouldn't mind seeing us take one in the 2nd or 3rd.

From a prospect value perspective, it seems like it's going to be DE.  I don't see a DT or LB being worthy of the pick unless Jalen Carter somehow falls.  

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I honestly think BPA but with a constraint. Best Defense player available. There are 8 positions excluding Grady, AJ and Evans who we can Only improve by replacing. 
B(D)PA in the draft at least first round. As much as I’d love Bijan, he’s not going to be there at 8 anyway and we need to stop that more than we need to have that. 

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