Our cap space is a lot better than some people realize.

[FalconFanSince1969]

It's pretty common knowledge that after Mariota gets cut the Falcons will be sitting with roughly 68.5 million cap space.

 

What isn't common knowledge though is that for 2023 we already have 58 players under contract.

 

What does this mean in relation to our cap space? Only the top 51 players count towards your salary cap. What that means is for every player we sign this off season, one player falls off the top 51 and we save that cap space.

 

For example:

We sign so and so to a 1 year, 3 million dollar contract. His 2023 cap hit is 3 million. The lowest cap charge on the roster right now is John Raine @ 750k cap hit. This means that player so and so really only costs us 2.25 mil in cap space.

 

And this will happen every time we sign a player and the amounts will get higher.

 

Lets say we sign 7 free agents. For each free agent signed another guy comes off. If we signed 7 free agents we would push an additional 5.5 million dollars off of the cap so we have a lot more effective cap space than meets the eye.

 

 

[SwampyMux12]

Should be a fun off-season...

Hope we don't blow our load all in one place though. 

[HASHBROWN3]

Hmmm

[falconsd56]

There is zero excuse not to be very very aggressive in free agency

[FalconFanSince1969]

1 minute ago, falconsd56 said:

There is zero excuse not to be very very aggressive in free agency

I was just playing with some numbers on spotrac trying to see what we could afford. I came up with this

 

LB Germaine Pratt (10.5m yr)
DE Zach Allen (6.5m yr)
OG Nate Davis (7.5m yr)
FS Chauncey Gardner-Johnson (13.5m yr)

 

Those numbers come to 38 million a year and they're based on their estimates for contracts. Signing those 4 would trim another 3 million off the cap bringing the total down to 35 million.

 

That is easily do-able and maybe even conservative based on what they 'could' do.

[HASHBROWN3]

Man Chauncey Gardner Johnson was bringing some heat seeking pain yesterday 🤩

[FalconFanSince1969]

4 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

Man Chauncey Gardner Johnson was bringing some heat seeking pain yesterday 🤩

Praying for that Saints connection. The Eagles just cannot re-sign everyone. Their entire DL is free agents along with CGJ and Bradberry. I'd love to snatch their secondary away.

[Herr Doktor]

26 minutes ago, SwampyMux12 said:

Should be a fun off-season...

Hope we don't blow our load all in one place though. 

[Freddies 3rd Cuz]

What ever TF does he must fix the DL and pass rush. If that means one big splash over paying reach so be it. We must improve the pass rush to become a real contender. We over paid for Alex Mack at the time and he made our OL whole line better. TF needs to land a real pass rusher. 

Someone mentioned Zack Allen. Zack Allen has been mediocre at best as a pass rusher 11 sacks in four years.....no thank you just resign Lorenzo Carter or maybe as depth. 

Maybe Payne Hargrove idk someone to push the pocket play the run rush the passer and take double teams off Grady and then draft trade sign one real pass rusher. TD is gone let's not keep doing this same **** over and over. No more Ray Edwards and other nothings.

Go get one TF. 

[FalconFanSince1969]

9 minutes ago, Freddies 3rd Cuz said:

What ever TF does he must fix the DL and pass rush. If that means one big splash over paying reach so be it. We must improve the pass rush to become a real contender. We over paid for Alex Mack at the time and he made our OL whole line better. TF needs to land a real pass rusher. 

Someone mentioned Zack Allen. Zack Allen has been mediocre at best as a pass rusher 11 sacks in four years.....no thank you just resign Lorenzo Carter or maybe as depth. 

Maybe Payne Hargrove idk someone to push the pocket play the run rush the passer and take double teams off Grady and then draft trade sign one real pass rusher. TD is gone let's not keep doing this same **** over and over. No more Ray Edwards and other nothings.

Go get one TF. 

Zack Allen is a really good football player. I'm not suggesting adding him and only him. We need the stars and the rotational pieces both. We seriously need like 4 pass rushers. 

[Caddieman]

1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

It's pretty common knowledge that after Mariota gets cut the Falcons will be sitting with roughly 68.5 million cap space.

 

What isn't common knowledge though is that for 2023 we already have 58 players under contract.

 

What does this mean in relation to our cap space? Only the top 51 players count towards your salary cap. What that means is for every player we sign this off season, one player falls off the top 51 and we save that cap space.

 

For example:

We sign so and so to a 1 year, 3 million dollar contract. His 2023 cap hit is 3 million. The lowest cap charge on the roster right now is John Raine @ 750k cap hit. This means that player so and so really only costs us 2.25 mil in cap space.

 

And this will happen every time we sign a player and the amounts will get higher.

 

Lets say we sign 7 free agents. For each free agent signed another guy comes off. If we signed 7 free agents we would push an additional 5.5 million dollars off of the cap so we have a lot more effective cap space than meets the eye.

 

 

Just think if we didn’t have Deion dead cap hit on the books this year……….it’s over 12 million there are 15 other players on our dead cap hit this year……all of these don’t even add up to 1 million! WOW.

[midas_whale]

1 hour ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

Hmmm

And the total comes to......Lamar Jackson money!

Yaaaay!

[West Sider]

[FentayeJones]

Huge contrast from this regimes first year. If I remember correctly they started the offseason with about 26 players under contract while being about 40M over the cap. 

[Killing Floor]

Let’s go shopping!

[Lethal]

Good **** '69!

[Freddies 3rd Cuz]

45 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

Zack Allen is a really good football player. I'm not suggesting adding him and only him. We need the stars and the rotational pieces both. We seriously need like 4 pass rushers. 

Yeah I agree he is a good football player but I think in the same mold as Carter. And yeah we do a stud and at least one more above average and depth. He and Carter both would be good rotational players.

[Hard Case]

2 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

It's pretty common knowledge that after Mariota gets cut the Falcons will be sitting with roughly 68.5 million cap space.

 

What isn't common knowledge though is that for 2023 we already have 58 players under contract.

 

What does this mean in relation to our cap space? Only the top 51 players count towards your salary cap. What that means is for every player we sign this off season, one player falls off the top 51 and we save that cap space.

 

For example:

We sign so and so to a 1 year, 3 million dollar contract. His 2023 cap hit is 3 million. The lowest cap charge on the roster right now is John Raine @ 750k cap hit. This means that player so and so really only costs us 2.25 mil in cap space.

 

And this will happen every time we sign a player and the amounts will get higher.

 

Lets say we sign 7 free agents. For each free agent signed another guy comes off. If we signed 7 free agents we would push an additional 5.5 million dollars off of the cap so we have a lot more effective cap space than meets the eye.

 

 

So we have enoughH to repair the O Line and D line. We should have enogh to sign a Vet QB that will  tutor Ridder and the QB we draft, Right ? 

[Caddieman]

Well I’m afraid it’s going to be less than we think. With this much cap space we are going to sign Lindstrom to a long term deal. That ain’t going to be cheep! Also what about McGary. If we resign him it’s going to take 12 million +!

 

[Ghosts of Glanville]

[FalconFanSince1969]

1 hour ago, Caddieman said:

Well I’m afraid it’s going to be less than we think. With this much cap space we are going to sign Lindstrom to a long term deal. That ain’t going to be cheep! Also what about McGary. If we resign him it’s going to take 12 million +!

 

Lindstrom already counts for over 11 million. Even if we signed him to an extension that number shouldn't move much.

 

 

[RING OF HONOR]

3 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

It's pretty common knowledge that after Mariota gets cut the Falcons will be sitting with roughly 68.5 million cap space.

 

What isn't common knowledge though is that for 2023 we already have 58 players under contract.

 

What does this mean in relation to our cap space? Only the top 51 players count towards your salary cap. What that means is for every player we sign this off season, one player falls off the top 51 and we save that cap space.

 

For example:

We sign so and so to a 1 year, 3 million dollar contract. His 2023 cap hit is 3 million. The lowest cap charge on the roster right now is John Raine @ 750k cap hit. This means that player so and so really only costs us 2.25 mil in cap space.

 

And this will happen every time we sign a player and the amounts will get higher.

 

Lets say we sign 7 free agents. For each free agent signed another guy comes off. If we signed 7 free agents we would push an additional 5.5 million dollars off of the cap so we have a lot more effective cap space than meets the eye.

 

 

Good info...

[FalconFan13]

Then you add in the fact that you can probably replace or cut a 34 yr old Heyward for another CB if you upgrade him at #2 and thats another 5 million in cap space.   Lindstrom is sitting at almost 14 mil in cap hit right now if you extend him thats probably going to lower that 1st year to around 7 or 8 mil i imagine and thats another 5 or 6 mil.   I looed at the bottom row of those main 51 and theirs guys there who we don't even know or won't make the team and thats another 3 to 4 mil in cap space as well.    We could realistically have around 85 mil in cap space to upgrade this team this offseason.  With moves that you sorta expect to be made and nothing more than that.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

3 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

I was just playing with some numbers on spotrac trying to see what we could afford. I came up with this

 

LB Germaine Pratt (10.5m yr)
DE Zach Allen (6.5m yr)
OG Nate Davis (7.5m yr)
FS Chauncey Gardner-Johnson (13.5m yr)

 

Those numbers come to 38 million a year and they're based on their estimates for contracts. Signing those 4 would trim another 3 million off the cap bringing the total down to 35 million.

 

That is easily do-able and maybe even conservative based on what they 'could' do.

I am leaning towards multi year deals so that the money can be stretched out, as opposed to a one year. 

Which would make us have even more space! 

[FalconFan13]

18 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

Lindstrom already counts for over 11 million. Even if we signed him to an extension that number shouldn't move much.

 

 

Lindstrom as it sits it looks like 13.2 mil    and depending on the contract others at his potion are getting you could quite easily make some cap space this year with that number.

Lets say he gets somewhere in the top 5 range for OG  not quite Nelson but not as bad as #5 either.

Nelson was 4 years 80 mil 17 mil sign bonus

Thuney was 5 yrs 80 mil 17 mil sign bonus

Martin was 6 yrs 84 mil 20 mil sign bonus

Scherff was 3 yrs 49 mil  15 mil sign bonus

Peat was 5 yrs 57 mil at 13 mil sign bonus

So i expect him to get in the mid range there closer to the upper guys but not quite as high as Nelson. 

Im thinking something like this if i had to guess  6 yrs 85 million with a 18 mil sign bonus  Somewhere in the martin range beating it by 1 mil in total most ever for a guard but not as high as Nelsons per year money.

Looking at everyone of their contracts the 1 thing i noticed is every single one of theirs contracts 1st year was 3 to 7 mil in cap space with the rest of it in later years like normal contracts where the cap goes up later.  The only one who was higher than 7 mil was Nelsons at 10 mil but that was bc his was a 4 yr deal.    So  i sorta expect  his cap hit to sit around 7 mil down from the 13.2 mil  and him to get around 18 mil guaranteed or so based on what the other OG's are getting the last year or 2.

Now with all that said he could sign a 5 yr 110 mil contract 30 mil sign bonus  and my numbers are way off and this all means nothing XD   But thats atleast a good idea of whats been done with ppl just like him the last few years atleast.