Bunchy Carter Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Banana Bandit said: We'd have more data on this potentially if he didn't continue to start ButtPass after said event. Since preseason, but VERY LOUDLY since the Browns game...I was saying (among others) that continuing to start Mariota was monumentally stupid and short sighted. It made ZERO sense hanging on to "pL@y0fF$" when anyone could see there was zero shot at a Lombardi. Starting Ridder was the BEST MOVE going forward, whether he flamed out, or became a star...because it cleared the deck for an amazing offseason. Macknsweetjones, Swayzee and oSI7ENT 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Banana Bandit said: It's Odd because Arthur Smith if nothing else is all about Loyalty. He has his previous boss's son on our roster out of loyalty alone. It's all over his coaching staff and Free agent in-season pickups. So it strikes me as odd when that same level doesn't get applied to who is at this point right now, our starter at Quarterback for next year. There were also very few leaks from the Falcons during the year, because they ran a tight ship, which is exactly what they're doing now. From the Athletic article: LAS VEGAS — The big question about the Falcons on the sidelines of the practice fields here this week is the same question fans have had since their team finished a fifth straight playoffs-less season Jan. 8: Are they sticking with Desmond Ridder or not? I asked multiple people, and multiple people asked me, and the consensus is that no one outside the building knows because no one inside the building is talking. “I know everybody wants to know everything right now, but there are a lot of moving parts to it,” Falcons coach Arthur Smith said. “I don’t think it’s smart business strategy ever to give away what your plan is. Everybody is trying to look at their free-agency boards, and there are a lot of decisions to be made. I think you’re in a bad organization if every day-to-day thing (you think) is out there.” Again, it's the offseason, they have a top 10 pick, lots of teams need QBs, having those teams worried about the Falcons taking a QB at 8 is a good thing. Either a team will give them more to get the 8th pick, or the other team will trade in front of the Falcons to make sure they get the QB they want. Either option is good. wnyfalconfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 hours ago, NorthGaBoy said: I was playing poker the other night. I told the other players I was holding 4 aces. Then, they all folded. That should be against the rules. It is not fair. I got almost nothing out of that hand. 4 aces became near worthless. I need a strategy to prevent this from happening in the future. Your passive aggressiveness is awe inspiring. 😂 NorthGaBoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Bunchy Carter said: Since preseason, but VERY LOUDLY since the Browns game...I was saying (among others) that continuing to start Mariota was monumentally stupid and short sighted. It made ZERO sense hanging on to "pL@y0fF$" when anyone could see there was zero shot at a Lombardi. Starting Ridder was the BEST MOVE going forward, whether he flamed out, or became a star...because it cleared the deck for an amazing offseason. Been wondering if Smith & Font were actually tanking for a top ten pick by playing Mariota as long as they did. That possibility makes as much sense as any other. Or, maybe Smith just didn't think Ridder was ready. Bunchy Carter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 2 minutes ago, falconidae said: Been wondering if Smith & Font were actually tanking for a top ten pick by playing Mariota as long as they did. That possibility makes as much sense as any other. Or, maybe Smith just didn't think Ridder was ready. Or maybe Smith thought he was playing the better player at the time? Edited February 9 by Swayzee tbhawksfan and ShoNuff 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 The easiest reason to be noncommittal is draft leverage. Makes teams have to consider Falcons may go for a qb. If we commit to Ridder, maybe we lose a DE or CB because a team traded up knowing we favor defense if we plan to go with Ridder. NorthGaBoy, ShoNuff and JDaveG 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 8 hours ago, jetpac said: That exact opposite actually Gazoo. But Im not gonna take a personal shot at you. I respect you as a poster i'm just having a conversation and voicing my opinion. Appreciate the insight. Well, I’m sure you know then brother jetpac, never let them see your hand 🖐️ I negotiate multi million dollar deals for my clients and learned not to give up leverage unless you get something in return 💰🤑 oSI7ENT and ShoNuff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 11 hours ago, Sponge said: TAFT in a nutshell midas_whale and Sponge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoNuff Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 16 hours ago, Herr Doktor said: I think you're reading way too much into this. Arthur Smith has a knack for saying absolutely nothing of value in a way that sounds veiled and weighted. Pretty much his modus operandi. All of this ! Arthur Smith has done this since becoming the HC. This should not surprise nor upset anyone. The GM has clearly stated that addressing our pass rush is the top priority. To me, it means HC and management believes we have our QB. They just need to get a backup QB. Edited February 10 by ShoNuff add more content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 8 hours ago, falconidae said: There were also very few leaks from the Falcons during the year, because they ran a tight ship, which is exactly what they're doing now. From the Athletic article: LAS VEGAS — The big question about the Falcons on the sidelines of the practice fields here this week is the same question fans have had since their team finished a fifth straight playoffs-less season Jan. 8: Are they sticking with Desmond Ridder or not? I asked multiple people, and multiple people asked me, and the consensus is that no one outside the building knows because no one inside the building is talking. “I know everybody wants to know everything right now, but there are a lot of moving parts to it,” Falcons coach Arthur Smith said. “I don’t think it’s smart business strategy ever to give away what your plan is. Everybody is trying to look at their free-agency boards, and there are a lot of decisions to be made. I think you’re in a bad organization if every day-to-day thing (you think) is out there.” Again, it's the offseason, they have a top 10 pick, lots of teams need QBs, having those teams worried about the Falcons taking a QB at 8 is a good thing. Either a team will give them more to get the 8th pick, or the other team will trade in front of the Falcons to make sure they get the QB they want. Either option is good. Or the Falcons could be looking to LAND a QB in the draft or FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 22 hours ago, jetpac said: It’s possible. But why blow smoke for Ridder? I’d assume it be easier to just say he’s the guy. No? because this is a pro sports organization. Not your average business where the part-time manager just got promoted to full-time. That headline won't be all over the media across the world within minutes. As Arthur Smith said here, you don't hand out free ammo to your enemies. oSI7ENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 (edited) 32 minutes ago, mtldirtybird said: because this is a pro sports organization. Not your average business where the part-time manager just got promoted to full-time. That headline won't be all over the media across the world within minutes. As Arthur Smith said here, you don't hand out free ammo to your enemies. The headline that the Atlanta Falcons view Desmond Ridder as their QB1? That headline would make world news? 😂😂😂 Edited February 10 by jetpac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macknsweetjones Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/9/2023 at 3:25 AM, Voice of Reason said: And I don’t know a successful team that reveals their plans just before the draft. He was talking about free agency tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, jetpac said: The headline that the Atlanta Falcons view Desmond Ridder as their QB1? That headline would make world news? 😂😂😂 Actually it would. Because it means they aren't chasing Lamar, Carr, Young or Stroud. Especially not Levis as everyone expects. JP, I know what your angle is with this thread but you're too smart for a few of these posts. Not all but a few. You know I ain't lying either 🤣🤣 oSI7ENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therawest Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/9/2023 at 3:47 AM, jetpac said: Plans for? He specifically mentioned Free Agency. Also, any team concrete in there QB plans has no desire to be non-committal on their starting QB. AS was as bullish on Mariota being QB1 last off-season there was no need to question it. IJS Just because he was noncommittal to the reporter, doesn’t mean he is non committal to Ridder. Also, it should common sense not to ask that question at this point in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 12 hours ago, Drunken Minotaur Zebra said: TAFT in a nutshell It is scripted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Tribal Chief said: Actually it would. Because it means they aren't chasing Lamar, Carr, Young or Stroud. Especially not Levis as everyone expects. JP, I know what your angle is with this thread but you're too smart for a few of these posts. Not all but a few. You know I ain't lying either 🤣🤣 😂😂 Tribal Chief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 21 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: The ridder crowd can't accept the fact that some people might not have all that much faith in a 3rd round QB that didn't exactly light it up in 4 starts. They get real mad if you challenge how they think. The ridder-hater crowd can't accept the fact that some people might not have all that much doubt about a QB taken in the 3rd round that did pretty well in his 4 starts. They get real mad if you challenge their ridder trolling. lmfao. Voice of Reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 29 minutes ago, PokerSteve said: The ridder-hater crowd can't accept the fact that some people might not have all that much doubt about a QB taken in the 3rd round that did pretty well in his 4 starts. They get real mad if you challenge their ridder trolling. lmfao. Nobody hates Ridder, at least I don't think anyone hates Ridder over a ridiculously small sample size, although I am sure there ae a few that truly do. Not sure where the draft position comes into play either as that is 100% completely irrelevant to the discussion. I personally just don't have faith in him to be the starting QB for a team that 100% needs to win in 23'. The issue that some have is that this team needs W's. Say we go into the season and Ridder struggles in games that matter, just like he did in every game in 22' that "mattered". Again, I am sure you are aware of what Desmond Ridders look like if you simply take the 2nd half of the Tampa game out of the mix. So from the glass is half-empty crowd is that sample size enough to potentially throw away another season? No, not to me it is not, and why I want all options explored and NOTHING given to Ridder, because I don't think his play warrants being given anything. Again, Arthur Smith chose Mariota time and time again when he had so many chances to make the change and if you take away the 2nd half of the Tampa game, you think this is even a discussion this offseason? oSI7ENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/9/2023 at 9:48 AM, atljbo said: When you have a quarterback that you draft and have him under contract for four or five years, that’s a really big deal,” the owner said. Arthur Blank- I wish he didn't say that as I'd prefer teams think we want a QB... but Blank spoke the truth. We have a top 20 QB under center already. oSI7ENT and PokerSteve 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, Drunken Minotaur Zebra said: I wish he didn't say that as I'd prefer teams think we want a QB... but Blank spoke the truth. We have a top 20 QB under center already. Wow...bold statement. I disagree, but time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, Drunken Minotaur Zebra said: I wish he didn't say that as I'd prefer teams think we want a QB... but Blank spoke the truth. We have a top 20 QB under center already. I don't think its gonna stop other teams from wondering and guessing though. Ill bet TF and AS are gonna show a lot of interest in every QB - they have done it for the last two years. Drunken Minotaur Zebra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Swayzee said: Wow...bold statement. I disagree, but time will tell. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong (but for the good of the team, I would hope not) however I believe Ridder's natural leadership ability, winning attitude, and physical attributes will quickly put him in the middle of the pack of NFL QBs. ****, Mariota was I believe 15th in QBR like 5-6 games into the season. If Ridder can put up Mariota numbers but with fewer turnovers then he will automatically be in the top 20. Swayzee and Bunchy Carter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, FentayeJones said: I don't think its gonna stop other teams from wondering and guessing though. Ill bet TF and AS are gonna show a lot of interest in every QB - they have done it for the last two years. As they should; due diligence is their job. But these folks telling themselves we're gonna trade up for Young or Stroud are just loony toons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Drunken Minotaur Zebra said: But these folks telling themselves we're gonna trade up for Young or Stroud are just loony toons. I agree... that ain't happening. Drunken Minotaur Zebra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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