Boise Falcon Fan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 4 hours ago, etherdome said: I don't see it the same way as the OP. I think it is smart to keep every player on your team on his toes. Ridder has work to do this off season. It is far better to keep him sharp and focused. It is also easier to attract a veteran QB via FA when that QB believes he has a competitive chance to earn the starting role. The Lamar Jackson rumors are out there, but I just don't think it is likely. The team needs to rebuild its roster. We all know that. Trading and spending for Jackson will cost valuable draft picks and plenty of cap space. It does not sound like a move this FO wold make. Time will tell, but I would go with Ridder in '23 and continue to improve the team. Nobody thought the Falcons would go all in on DW last year either. There is just WAY TOO MUCH smoke around LJ for it to not be true for us to not be at least entertaining bringing him in. I think AB loves to make splashes, and that would be a huge splash. oSI7ENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
408Falcon Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Falcons owner Arthur Blank believes team has 'good leader' in QB Desmond Ridder Feb 9 2/9/2023 1:53:22 PM Draft season is approaching with full force, and franchises aplenty are coveting quarterbacks. Will the Atlanta Falcons be among those flocking for a franchise signal-caller in the 2023 NFL Draft? That remains to be seen, but owner Arthur Blank is a believer in 2022 pick Desmond Ridder, Grant Gordon of NFL.com reports. "We're committed to the position obviously, and we know we need a good leader there, and I think we have it in Ridder," Blank said Wednesday, via ESPN's Michael Rothstein. Late in a frustrating 7-10 Falcons campaign last year, Ridder was thrust into the starting lineup to replace a sputtering Marcus Mariota. The third-round pick out of Cincinnati didn't explode onto the scene, but he showed progression and overall positives. As a starter, Ridder was 2-2, throwing for 708 yards, no interceptions and two touchdowns, which both came in a Week 18 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ridder's numbers didn't exactly drop jaws, but Blank was impressed and is optimistic for what Year 2 holds. "We're very excited about Desmond Ridder," Blank said. "I think from the time he came into training camp, he showed great capabilities as a leader amongst the rookies and then amongst the vets." Blank is well aware that answering the Atlanta quarterback question isn't the only quandary for the Falcons. "As good as the quarterback may be, and they're certainly critical part of a winning formula, they can't play by themselves," Blank said. "I mean, there's 21 other players that need to play as well." rounz and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, dirtybirds233 said: Well of course they will - AS even said a year or so ago that every team is always inquiring on what would need to be given up for any given player. I wouldn't be surprised if you start hearing about the Falcons talking with Carr in the coming weeks either. Also, the only smoke around LJ is sportswriters saying we'd be a likely destination given the cap space and draft capital we have. There's been absolutely nothing that has connected Atlanta and Lamar outside of that. Just like there was absolutely nothing about DW, until there was. There is a lot of smoke around LJ to come here, and there wouldn't be if there wasn't a reason for it. If there is any owner in the NFL that would do something over the top to land the guy that will put butts in the seats, its AB. AB wants LJ, whether we get him or not, remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, 408Falcon said: Falcons owner Arthur Blank believes team has 'good leader' in QB Desmond Ridder Feb 9 2/9/2023 1:53:22 PM Draft season is approaching with full force, and franchises aplenty are coveting quarterbacks. Will the Atlanta Falcons be among those flocking for a franchise signal-caller in the 2023 NFL Draft? That remains to be seen, but owner Arthur Blank is a believer in 2022 pick Desmond Ridder, Grant Gordon of NFL.com reports. "We're committed to the position obviously, and we know we need a good leader there, and I think we have it in Ridder," Blank said Wednesday, via ESPN's Michael Rothstein. Late in a frustrating 7-10 Falcons campaign last year, Ridder was thrust into the starting lineup to replace a sputtering Marcus Mariota. The third-round pick out of Cincinnati didn't explode onto the scene, but he showed progression and overall positives. As a starter, Ridder was 2-2, throwing for 708 yards, no interceptions and two touchdowns, which both came in a Week 18 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ridder's numbers didn't exactly drop jaws, but Blank was impressed and is optimistic for what Year 2 holds. "We're very excited about Desmond Ridder," Blank said. "I think from the time he came into training camp, he showed great capabilities as a leader amongst the rookies and then amongst the vets." Blank is well aware that answering the Atlanta quarterback question isn't the only quandary for the Falcons. "As good as the quarterback may be, and they're certainly critical part of a winning formula, they can't play by themselves," Blank said. "I mean, there's 21 other players that need to play as well." PokerSteve, Jpg428gggg and tbhawksfan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 This is what happens when boredom eats too much stupidity. Lionzblade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybirds233 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: Just like there was absolutely nothing about DW, until there was. There is a lot of smoke around LJ to come here, and there wouldn't be if there wasn't a reason for it. If there is any owner in the NFL that would do something over the top to land the guy that will put butts in the seats, its AB. AB wants LJ, whether we get him or not, remains to be seen. Again - no there isn't. I'll repeat myself, the only smoke is from sportswriters saying Atlanta is a likely destination given the cap space and draft capital. When reports start coming out about the Falcons being interested that aren't just someone's opinion, then we can talk about smoke. Lionzblade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Sports writers gonna sports write PokerSteve and Lionzblade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionzblade Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 34 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: Just like there was absolutely nothing about DW, until there was. There is a lot of smoke around LJ to come here, and there wouldn't be if there wasn't a reason for it. If there is any owner in the NFL that would do something over the top to land the guy that will put butts in the seats, its AB. AB wants LJ, whether we get him or not, remains to be seen. If he wanted butts in seats for the short term he would have benched Marcus "butt pass" mariota for the new exiting rookie. He knows the way to gets butts in seats in the long term,and that is winning. Not trading for an injury prone QB when we are NOT at all a QB away from winning anything more than possibly this crappy division and being a 1 and done in the playoffs. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 28 minutes ago, dirtybirds233 said: Again - no there isn't. I'll repeat myself, the only smoke is from sportswriters saying Atlanta is a likely destination given the cap space and draft capital. When reports start coming out about the Falcons being interested that aren't just someone's opinion, then we can talk about smoke. That's how the Watson rumors started too. Boise Falcon Fan and oSI7ENT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 7 hours ago, Voice of Reason said: And I don’t know a successful team that reveals their plans just before the draft. Successful teams JUST DO IT, whether its before, during or after the draft. They don't care who is privy to it. oSI7ENT and rounz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 36 minutes ago, dirtybirds233 said: Again - no there isn't. I'll repeat myself, the only smoke is from sportswriters saying Atlanta is a likely destination given the cap space and draft capital. When reports start coming out about the Falcons being interested that aren't just someone's opinion, then we can talk about smoke. Speculation pieces from every direction is smoke though 😂 We should be happy for it too, because we already showed frugal awareness in backing out of the Watson trade once Cleveland realized they're Cleveland, when everybody felt like we HAD to go all in due to the Ryan awkwardness. We'll most definitely kick the tires on Lamar, but if the price ain't right, the price ain't right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 4 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Why would he be? Lamar is the Falcons starting QB in 2023. dammit! PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 4 hours ago, RookieBird said: It is so unrealistic to expect Arthur Smith to open up about anything concerning his views on players or anything else. He has yet to give out impressions,informatin, or anything else concerning players or his job. His press conferences are back and forth with the media where they ask questions and he doesn't answer them. If you want him to answer the way you think he should practice ventriloquism. Not true. He’s pretty open about his players specifically the QB position. So it’s odd to see him so vague. https://sportsnaut.com/arthur-smith-falcons-sticking-with-marcus-mariota-no-situation-at-qb/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 20 minutes ago, Spts1 said: Successful teams JUST DO IT, whether its before, during or after the draft. They don't care who is privy to it. Oh they let it he known they were looking to upgrade the QB position well before the draft. Spts1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, gazoo said: I trust that whatever you do for a living has absolutely nothing to do with negotiating on other peoples behalves. Seems the concept of “leverage” escapes you entirely. That exact opposite actually Gazoo. But Im not gonna take a personal shot at you. I respect you as a poster i'm just having a conversation and voicing my opinion. Appreciate the insight. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: Somebody really wants Jackson and seemingly won't accept any other outcome ... man people really wanna relive the Mike Vick Experience Boise Falcon Fan and Lionzblade 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, FalconofShadows said: Somebody really wants Jackson and seemingly won't accept any other outcome ... man people really wanna relive the Mike Vick Experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMERICAN NIGHTMARE Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 13 minutes ago, FalconofShadows said: Somebody really wants Jackson and seemingly won't accept any other outcome ... man people really wanna relive the Mike Vick Experience Bingo that’s why they want Lamar 1989Fan and FalconofShadows 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMERICAN NIGHTMARE Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 minutes ago, jetpac said: Not a reach when it’s true. They want someone who takes off running. They want excitement. I want wins and trading our future away just because they miss Vick is dumb. 1989Fan and Lionzblade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 The only way to not realize/admit that this is simply to not show their hands in FA and the draft is if you have an anti Ridder stance/agenda. PokerSteve and falconidae 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 14 minutes ago, jetpac said: Not as much of a reach as assuming that the Falcons are noncommital because they haven't said anything about Ridder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 hours ago, Tribal Chief said: What if he has informed Ridder behind closed doors and blowing smoke to the media? Happens all the time. That's why can't assume everything being said is true. A lot is coach speak. PokerSteve and Killing Floor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 hours ago, Voice of Reason said: And I don’t know a successful team that reveals their plans just before the draft. And I don’t know of any successful team with 5 consecutive losing seasons and only 2 postseason appearances in 10 years. So let’s please dispense the successful talk and do the opposite of what we’ve done for most of our 56 seasons. We already know we missed out on playoffs this year by being best-friend loyal to Mariota. All I’m saying, I don’t care if Smith is messing with the media because that’s entertaining. But I do care if he’s messing with Ridder, that costs us wins. We’ve lost on purpose quite enough already. oSI7ENT and PokerSteve 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oSI7ENT Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 10 minutes ago, ROMERO said: Not a reach when it’s true. They want someone who takes off running. They want excitement. I want wins and trading our future away just because they miss Vick is dumb. Looks at Avatar. Sees clear bias. Reads no further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, atljbo said: When you have a quarterback that you draft and have him under contract for four or five years, that’s a really big deal,” the owner said. Arthur Blank- We literally just got out cap hel* too. I think TF is going to be smart handing out money and AS will do a good job of not letting players get complacent. They weren't willing to give Watson the huge guarantee so we backed out. I think the same will go for any contract they feel is overvalued. Lionzblade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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