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Just now, Malachore said:

Nah but you can't honestly think this was a good choice.

 

I think you'd be shocked by how little I'm surprised by this. When I looked at the whole board this offseason, I kept coming back to this move.

Shewmake's not ready yet, and Grissom's glove would prove disadvantageous to our pitchers. So, we go Raphael Belliard for a while.

We don't want to sign anybody else when we have three players already for the position. The waiting game makes the most sense.

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30 minutes ago, jidady said:

I think you'd be shocked by how little I'm surprised by this. When I looked at the whole board this offseason, I kept coming back to this move.

Shewmake's not ready yet, and Grissom's glove would prove disadvantageous to our pitchers. So, we go Raphael Belliard for a while.

We don't want to sign anybody else when we have three players already for the position. The waiting game makes the most sense.

I'm sorry but no it doesn't. 

We've been told for 2 years that Shewmake's glove was ready just not his bat. If they didn't trust Grissom that's fine but you can't tell me Arcia's is much better.

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1 hour ago, Unknøwn said:

No, he was OK but he didn't hit as much as Grissom or even Shewmake. The Braves are just clearly valuing the defense and range over Grissom's bat. Let him keep working on the defense at AAA. Shewmake probably would be a lighter bat than Arcia.

Arcia has played 6 games at shortstop in the majors in the last three seasons. He's not as good a defensive option as Shewmake, and he's not as good an offensive option as Grissom. 

 

1 hour ago, Malachore said:

This was the worst case scenario when they passed on a SS and kept gassing us up over Grissom.

I am forced to agree with Malachore. If they don't like Grissom, they should make a trade, but Orlando Arcia is not good enough to play shortstop for this team on more than a one-off basis. Quite frankly, this reeks of service time manipulation, which is not a game this team should be playing in its window of contention. 

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According to DOB, it was partially a depth move to save Adrianza from leaving.

Here's part of the story, can't post the full article or Arthur Blank will be mad at me

If they had kept Grissom or Shewmake to play shortstop — Shewmake likely would’ve platooned with Arcia; Grissom would’ve been more of an everyday starter — then Adrianza, who was on a minor-league contract, has enough service time that he could opt for free agency rather than accept a minor-league assignment. Other teams are looking for players with Adrianza’s versatility and experience at this point in spring training.

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1 hour ago, Unknøwn said:

According to DOB, it was partially a depth move to save Adrianza from leaving.

Here's part of the story, can't post the full article or Arthur Blank will be mad at me

If they had kept Grissom or Shewmake to play shortstop — Shewmake likely would’ve platooned with Arcia; Grissom would’ve been more of an everyday starter — then Adrianza, who was on a minor-league contract, has enough service time that he could opt for free agency rather than accept a minor-league assignment. Other teams are looking for players with Adrianza’s versatility and experience at this point in spring training.

Adrianza is a below replacement level type player.  A rando could provide about as much as he can. Why the **** is is he even part of any kind of equation for us?

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15 hours ago, Malachore said:

Signing Andrus would have made sense.

If Braves brass thinking was, "We know Shewmake isn't ready (offensively), and Grissom has concerns defensively, but hey - we have Arcia to fall back on!"

If THAT was the mindset, AA should have done more to sign a low-cost bridge like Andrus. He signed a 1/$3M.  

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The Grissom to AAA has to be service time related.  That's the only thing that "makes sense" to me.

Regarding Adrianza, I completely agree that he's very much a replaceable piece in terms of what he's capable of in a utility player role.  I wonder if it goes deeper than that and he's one of the clubhouse leaders, especially for the Latin players.  If so, that could definitely explain why they may want to keep him. 

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Lmao at saving Adrian, the guy is not even a MLB player he's only here because he is likeable. 

Not only did you weaken the starting lineup but you weaken the bench by taking Arcia off of it.

AA was brilliant in 2021 but his last few moves have really baffled me. Especially when we are told they are spending and then pull some Nicole and dime **** at a position as important as SS.

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4 hours ago, Unknøwn said:

According to DOB, it was partially a depth move to save Adrianza from leaving.

Here's part of the story, can't post the full article or Arthur Blank will be mad at me

If they had kept Grissom or Shewmake to play shortstop — Shewmake likely would’ve platooned with Arcia; Grissom would’ve been more of an everyday starter — then Adrianza, who was on a minor-league contract, has enough service time that he could opt for free agency rather than accept a minor-league assignment. Other teams are looking for players with Adrianza’s versatility and experience at this point in spring training.

Then why not trade him. His value will never be higher.

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1 hour ago, mookie3127 said:

The Grissom to AAA has to be service time related.  That's the only thing that "makes sense" to me.

Regarding Adrianza, I completely agree that he's very much a replaceable piece in terms of what he's capable of in a utility player role.  I wonder if it goes deeper than that and he's one of the clubhouse leaders, especially for the Latin players.  If so, that could definitely explain why they may want to keep him. 

I wondered if it was time service related too. That was honestly my first thought

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