The very best of Mariota to 4th overall bust Kyle Pitts

[FalconsFanSince194eva]

40 minutes ago, Swayzee said:

I am against it because your own head coach thought Mariota the superior QB to start on Sundays, while the team was in actual playoff contention.

We all saw Mariota play and so did Smith, yet he kept trotting out Mariota week after week. You are saying that Smith intentionally threw games so you can feel better about some made up timeframe regarding Ridder. You understand that , right?

I'm going to have to trust the head coaches accounting of the story instead of some made up garbage from a forum, to make it seem like Ridder was always playing at the bye, because that was never the case, pure circumstance.

There is a third option, Smith thought Mariota was better and was wrong. It's not as black and white as you make it. 

[PokerSteve]

6 hours ago, jetpac said:

Still blows my mind people were OK with this man starting for so long 

Never mind people here were OK with it, what about HC Arthur Smith being OK with it? He steadily maintained Ridder wasn't ready until the bitter end. 

[Swayzee]

40 minutes ago, PokerSteve said:

Never mind people here were OK with it, what about HC Arthur Smith being OK with it? He steadily maintained Ridder wasn't ready until the bitter end. 

He is the HC and what IF he was playing the better play? Again, 4 games is such a small sample size and to complicate matters Tampa played there scrubs in the 2nd half of one of the games. The NFL is littered with players that showed out and sucked and guys that sucked and would up being all world.

I just can't get over this simple forgotten tidbit. I mean I hope my logic is incorrect, but based on how things went down it is, or AS is a piss poor talent evaluator at the QB position. Which makes the Tannehill resurgence make even less sense.

 

[gazoo]

7 hours ago, RetroRoq said:

There is a lot of truth in the first 6 words of this post, but so much of that depends on where you are... you get one angle and the only replays you get are those that the NFL gives the stadium permission to show you.

What I find I dont see when I am watching Kyle Pitts breaking with a 3 yard distance on the defender, is that Cam Jordan has suddenly stretched his frame out to about 8 feet and now the throwing angle has changed in that millisecond and maybe you could move left and still get it off, but Demario Davis is getting leverage in that space and it just doesnt exist anymore.  All the time spent watching Kyle Pitts break 3 yards distance 50 yards downfileld really does taint your view as to what is happening .. so when I am at the game, I just make a mental note of what I saw, then try and catch the recording of the game (without sound).  99% of the time I am blown away with what I didnt see the first time.

I have been to a bajillion games in my life... I just dont have the training to know all the opportunities that may or may not exist in the course of a game.  I am always amazed by guys like Collingsworth and Romo cause they see things during the play that I would have never imagined.  I am sure they study film and they know how to study film and look for tendencies in the formation to see where the play is even designed to go, that as a longtime fan attending post tailgate, I will never see during the few seconds it takes to run a play with 22 elite athletes doing things I cant even dream of.

So, I agree that there are many things that you see at the game that you dont see on tv, but i also acknowledge that usually, I am not seeing everything that the game is giving me when I see that. Its an interesting point, but I am not going to make what my focus at the game on a given play the sole indication that the play wasnt made for reason x or reason y.  

Indeed, the best angle I’ve found to see the route trees, receivers breaking open, coverages, Pitts running wide open all game, etc is from the front row of the upper level mid field. If you are lower in the stands you can’t see this aspect of the game well. 

This is why you see the coordinators often calling plays from “The Booth” as that has about same perspective as front row of upper level, mid field. I get these seats intentionally from time to time exactly for this reason.

Down lower has its advantages, especially in front row center field. You see the violence and speed of the game down close. 

[cwell1]

16 hours ago, falconsd56 said:

Honestly it makes me mad the fact that we had to sit through that for another few games after that Thursday night debacle.

 

especially when you consider Pitts wouldn't have needed to have knee surgery. Bozo threw him right into that safety with no way to protect himself. Should've been benched.

That was supposed to be Pitts eating at the end of the season instead of Pruitt

[Lornoth]

If he was really a unicorn he would have used his telekinesis to levitate the ball into his hands, obviously. 

[falconsd56]

2 hours ago, PokerSteve said:

Never mind people here were OK with it, what about HC Arthur Smith being OK with it? He steadily maintained Ridder wasn't ready until the bitter end. 

Especially how he had a dumb down his offense for Mariota simply because he couldn't pass the ball more than 10 yards with any sort of consistency.

 

The whole "Ridder wasn't ready" narrative falls flat when you see that we had a stretch of games where we averaged like 15 attempts a game over a months time.

A practice squad QB can run an offense when you throw the ball 13 times.

He may not run it well......but neither did Mariota.

[thofin21]

Thanks for bringing back the bad memories . 

[Killing Floor]

Pitts is going to absolutely murder this year. And next year. 
 

And when it’s time to get paid this year is going to cost the Falcons a lot. 

[EpicBird]

Watching that just made me ask for a refund for last year’s season tickets. 

[Durrty]

17 hours ago, mcwheesus said:

i gotta admit, in the context of them showing the clips one after the other, I too found it so ridiculous and inexcusable that all I could do was laugh.  

Thanks man.

It’s called laughing through the pain…lol

Lighten up PokerSteve! 🙄😂

[falcon22]

All Ridder has to do is hit about 50% of those same attempts and he and Pitts will have a very productive year. 

[Herr Doktor]

12 hours ago, falconsd56 said:

Especially how he had a dumb down his offense for Mariota simply because he couldn't pass the ball more than 10 yards with any sort of consistency.

 

The whole "Ridder wasn't ready" narrative falls flat when you see that we had a stretch of games where we averaged like 15 attempts a game over a months time.

A practice squad QB can run an offense when you throw the ball 13 times.

He may not run it well......but neither did Mariota.

All true.  The only caveat I can throw out is maybe AS thought Ridder would get Shell shocked and just die on the vine.  

[marvinthemartian]

On 2/6/2023 at 11:44 PM, JD dirtybird21 said:

This is what we get for taking a TE at 4 

Our TE at 4 did fine in his first year when he had a legit NFL QB throwing him the ball. 
 

Year 2 he did not have that and his numbers sucked. It will be interesting to see what he does in year 3 with a developing Drake London, a running game and a QB who can get him the ball like he did to London after Mariota was out. Look how much London improved with Ridder. I think we will see the same from Pitts. Pitts and London will help each other as well. 

[Precyse]

On 2/7/2023 at 1:07 AM, Durrty said:

This was hilarious to watch...😂

I had a laugh every play 

[gazoo]

Mariota quit on his team. Marcus Quitrino

[ThisIsNotFantasyFootball]

What's sad is Mariota supposedly "knew this offense"...

[Drunken Minotaur Zebra]

On 2/7/2023 at 12:24 AM, Knight of God said:

It was extremely frustrating 

The second I saw the first play of the clip, I physically cringed.

 

Seeing people defending Mariota on here was one of the most bewildering things I've seen in a while. I'd rather see Ridder out there playing like a rookie than this 8yr vet making a fool of himself. 

[Drunken Minotaur Zebra]

  

6 hours ago, ThisIsNotFantasyFootball said:

What's sad is Mariota supposedly "knew this offense"...

I mean that's the thing... he *did*. 

 

The problem is his execution... I lost count of the plays I saw him hesitate his way out of (the little shuffle, wait for the pocket to collapse, then take a pointless sack/turn it over). It was like the second the ball was snapped his mind just melted... if he doesn't get a running lane it's just chaos. 

 

*oh and forget any pass beyond 15yds

[falconsd56]

8 hours ago, ThisIsNotFantasyFootball said:

What's sad is Mariota supposedly "knew this offense"...

And Smith "trusted him"

[TheRisen999]

On 2/7/2023 at 1:14 PM, Herr Doktor said:

This was a Sarcasm thread brother.

Oh I know, just pointing it’s out because the tape is soooo frustrating to watch. 

Edited February 9 by TheRisen999

[etherdome]

On 2/7/2023 at 5:55 PM, Swayzee said:

He is the HC and what IF he was playing the better play? Again, 4 games is such a small sample size and to complicate matters Tampa played there scrubs in the 2nd half of one of the games. The NFL is littered with players that showed out and sucked and guys that sucked and would up being all world.

I just can't get over this simple forgotten tidbit. I mean I hope my logic is incorrect, but based on how things went down it is, or AS is a piss poor talent evaluator at the QB position. Which makes the Tannehill resurgence make even less sense.

 

AS watched and help coach Ridder.  He also saw how the OL was developing.  He put Ridder in the best possible situation to learn and to eventually succeed.  Predictably, Ridder improved as the season went on. 

Why are so many people angry about keeping Mariota for as long as he was?  None of us saw the practices.  This obsession makes no sense to me.

From what I saw, Ridder should be our starter next season.  If he bombs, we draft a QB in 2024.  It just makes sense. 

[PokerSteve]

23 hours ago, gazoo said:

Mariota quit on his team. Marcus Quitrino

I've thought about it and Mariota basically just imploded emotionally. First and foremost, he was very disappointed in his own poor play. This was his chance to prove he was a legit starting NFL QB and he couldn't perform. In fact was his own worst enemy.

He was probably glad in some ways when he was finally benched, just to not have to face another Sunday in front of millions of people playing like a hapless scrub. But also pissed off and upset because he knew he was finished as a starting QB.

He was an emotional train wreck by the time he told Smith he was going to get his knee scoped. Marcus had literally nothing left inside to give, so he left to avoid any further stress. This second and final  epic failure was just too much to bear, the humiliation too great to stick around.