dirtybirds233 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 16 minutes ago, autigerfan said: Ridder showed me that he will be able to get the ball to his receivers. I will give Pitts a full season with RIdder under center before I label him a bust. The guy put up 1,000 yards with the corpse of Matt Ryan throwing to him. I think it's as simple as Mariota was that bad, especially considering how much more productive London was with Ridder. TheRisen999 and Lionzblade 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, dirtybirds233 said: The guy put up 1,000 yards with the corpse of Matt Ryan throwing to him. I think it's as simple as Mariota was that bad, especially considering how much more productive London was with Ridder. The Mariota defense will forever go down as one of the weirdest times on these boards lol Lionzblade, JD dirtybird21, Jimsmusic™ and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombers79 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 These topics are asinine. Title says he's a bust but then provides video of how bad of a thrower our QB was. Complete joke. KP will be an all pro TE. Just hope it's with us.......need a professional QB to lead this offense. Mariota was a college QB, Ridder hasn't shown it yet, hopefully he will this year. If not we will lose the key years of contract control and positional development from our top two picks of last two drafts. Im all in on bringing in Carr or Jimmy G on a 2 year deal while DR is on a rookie contract. We cannot have wasted two top picks. QB is the problem we need to solve, not TE or WR. To just give DR the job is irresponsible and potentially job costing if it doesn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Bombers79 said: These topics are asinine. Title says he's a bust but then provides video of how bad of a thrower our QB was. Complete joke. KP will be an all pro TE. Just hope it's with us.......need a professional QB to lead this offense. Mariota was a college QB, Ridder hasn't shown it yet, hopefully he will this year. If not we will lose the key years of contract control and positional development from our top two picks of last two drafts. Im all in on bringing in Carr or Jimmy G on a 2 year deal while DR is on a rookie contract. We cannot have wasted two top picks. QB is the problem we need to solve, not TE or WR. To just give DR the job is irresponsible and potentially job costing if it doesn't work out. The title of the thread is sarcasm my man. Herr Doktor, oSI7ENT, raysnill1 and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard2BaBirdWachr Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 hours ago, Jesus said: Maybe he was supposed to catch them with his butt? Would be a perfect match because all those throws were a**. Jesus, Herr Doktor, raysnill1 and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombers79 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: The title of the thread is sarcasm my man. my bad......too much falcons board experience JDaveG and Lionzblade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRisen999 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 36 minutes ago, autigerfan said: Ridder showed me that he will be able to get the ball to his receivers. I will give Pitts a full season with RIdder under center before I label him a bust. He’s definitely not a bust after a thousand yard season as a rookie and making the Pro Bowl. Pitts would have likely went for another thousand yards if Mariota could have hit him on at least 70% of those throws. Jimsmusic™ and Herr Doktor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 6 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said: He’s definitely not a bust after a thousand yard season as a rookie and making the Pro Bowl. Pitts would have likely went for another thousand yards if Mariota could have hit him on at least 70% of those throws. This was a Sarcasm thread brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Hey Marcus…😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGaBoy Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) This is a tradition. Jeff George, Kurt Kittner, Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, and Marcus Mariota. I am left wondering why the Falcons never game me a try. I am not a good passer and I am not confident I could bounce back up after a good hit, but come on, look at my competition. Edit: Mariota is not even close to the over thrower Byron Leftwich. Byron definitely gets the award. Or, is it a deward? Yep, I think deward is the correct non-word. Edited February 7 by NorthGaBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRoq Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I know I am going against the narrative of this thread, but in looking at Mariota to Pitts 2022, there was success thats being ignored. This quick review shows times where Pitts was covered and Mariota still put the ball where Pitts could make the catch. It also shows times where Mariota wasnt in the best position to make the throw and still got the ball to Pitts. I'm not saying that Mariota was an amazing QB who had an amazing connection with Pitts, but after 3 pages, I just figured a little truth to the dialogue would be helpful Sorry that the video is redirecting to YouTube, but for the curious, it does present an alternative viewpoint. oSI7ENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFanSince194eva Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, RetroRoq said: I know I am going against the narrative of this thread, but in looking at Mariota to Pitts 2022, there was success thats being ignored. This quick review shows times where Pitts was covered and Mariota still put the ball where Pitts could make the catch. It also shows times where Mariota wasnt in the best position to make the throw and still got the ball to Pitts. I'm not saying that Mariota was an amazing QB who had an amazing connection with Pitts, but after 3 pages, I just figured a little truth to the dialogue would be helpful Sorry that the video is redirecting to YouTube, but for the curious, it does present an alternative viewpoint. Making tight throws does not make up for missing open throws. If anything it makes it worse knowing he could make those throws about was inconsistent. falconsd56 and JDaveG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRoq Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, FalconsFanSince194eva said: Making tight throws does not make up for missing open throws. If anything it makes it worse knowing he could make those throws about was inconsistent. yeah, I'm not trying to make it better or worse. Each fan can focus on whats reality for them when they are given both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGaBoy Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, RetroRoq said: I know I am going against the narrative of this thread, but in looking at Mariota to Pitts 2022, there was success thats being ignored. This quick review shows times where Pitts was covered and Mariota still put the ball where Pitts could make the catch. It also shows times where Mariota wasnt in the best position to make the throw and still got the ball to Pitts. I'm not saying that Mariota was an amazing QB who had an amazing connection with Pitts, but after 3 pages, I just figured a little truth to the dialogue would be helpful Sorry that the video is redirecting to YouTube, but for the curious, it does present an alternative viewpoint. Mariota showed good accuracy up to about 15 yards. It seemed he threw a lot of medium passes early in the season and then later was throwing a lot beyond 20 yards. And, it was beyond 20 yards where the inaccuracy showed. Who was responsible for making the decision to attempt all those deep passes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, dirtybirds233 said: Sadly, there was a couple. Funny enough they were the same posters that wanted Ryan tarred and feathered. No the worst was the narrative that it was a planned transition at the bye. Then to double down on the "theory" even though Ridder said that zero changed at practice those 3 games after Buttgate. Again Arthur Smith, the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, decided that regardless how bad Mariota was on the field he STILL gave the Falcons the best chance to win during very meaningful games. Facts. And some wonder why others think we will 100% be getting an new starter in 23'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGaBoy Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 10 minutes ago, Swayzee said: No the worst was the narrative that it was a planned transition at the bye. Then to double down on the "theory" even though Ridder said that zero changed at practice those 3 games after Buttgate. Again Arthur Smith, the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, decided that regardless how bad Mariota was on the field he STILL gave the Falcons the best chance to win during very meaningful games. Facts. And some wonder why others think we will 100% be getting an new starter in 23'. Of course. Why did AS just not tell the truth; that Mariota had a very limited skill set and that Desmond Ridder was not ready to take over. Therefore, the Falcons would use Mariota while Ridder was being developed. That would have worked out great. oSI7ENT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NorthGaBoy said: Of course. Why did AS just not tell the truth; that Mariota had a very limited skill set and that Desmond Ridder was not ready to take over. Therefore, the Falcons would use Mariota while Ridder was being developed. That would have worked out great. You do realize how absolutely ridiculous that sounds? You are essentially saying the the HC CHOSE to play an inferior player, in a playoff race, to fit some BS schedule that the Ridder fan club have literally made up to match chonologcally.. No way, that the HC was telling the truth, and backing up up with the fact that Mariota was playing week in and week out. Edited February 7 by Swayzee TheUsualStuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, NorthGaBoy said: Of course. Why did AS just not tell the truth; that Mariota had a very limited skill set and that Desmond Ridder was not ready to take over. Therefore, the Falcons would use Mariota while Ridder was being developed. That would have worked out great. Wait so, he developed over those 3 weeks? Even though he never has a single snap with the 1st team? oSI7ENT and TheUsualStuff 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Watching that I started thinking ‘maybe Mariota was shaving points’. About 90 seconds in I changed to, ‘no his passing just sucks’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 32 minutes ago, NorthGaBoy said: This is a tradition. Jeff George, Kurt Kittner, Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, and Marcus Mariota. I am left wondering why the Falcons never game me a try. I am not a good passer and I am not confident I could bounce back up after a good hit, but come on, look at my competition. Edit: Mariota is not even close to the over thrower Byron Leftwich. Byron definitely gets the award. Or, is it a deward? Yep, I think deward is the correct non-word. You haven't even scratched the surface of 1984-1990 Morowski, Archer, Holly, Campbell, Schonert, Kramer, Van Rapphorst, Dils, Millen, then finally Miller. A who's who of you don't want to know. duckhoa, falconsd56, NorthGaBoy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 23 minutes ago, Swayzee said: You do realize how absolutely ridiculous that sounds? You are essentially saying the the HC CHOSE to play an inferior player, in a playoff race, to fit some BS schedule that the Ridder fan club have literally made up to match chonologcally.. No way, that the HC was telling the truth, and backing up up with the fact that Mariota was playing week in and week out. Lol, the Ridder fan club made it up? Raise your hand if you said Ridder would not start before the bye week. If you did, you were spot on. Even for those like myself that wanted Ridder to get as much time as he needed to develop into a viable starter, that was a hard pill to swallow given how Mariota was pissing games away especially in the latter half of the season. Now, with that being said, define inferior. It's very possible that Ridder, skill wise, was the better player overall, but because 1) he's a rookie and 2) doesn't know how to run a complicated NFL offense, he's still the "worse" option. In any case, all of this has been explained ad nauseum so I'm not gonna beat a dead horse. That ship has sailed. Whether he starts or not, Ridder will be on the roster in 2023. Mariota most likely will not. It's weird that you're criticizing AS for keeping Ridder on the bench as long as he did, and now you seem to be very much against the idea of Ridder being a starter. FalconsFanSince194eva 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, NorthGaBoy said: This is a tradition. Jeff George, Kurt Kittner, Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, and Marcus Mariota. I am left wondering why the Falcons never game me a try. I am not a good passer and I am not confident I could bounce back up after a good hit, but come on, look at my competition. Edit: Mariota is not even close to the over thrower Byron Leftwich. Byron definitely gets the award. Or, is it a deward? Yep, I think deward is the correct non-word. Jeff George had his issues as a leader and being a prima-donna, but he could throw the ball. The other ones and 84-90 crew.... not so much. Jesus, falconsd56 and NorthGaBoy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 24 minutes ago, Mr.11 said: Lol, the Ridder fan club made it up? Raise your hand if you said Ridder would not start before the bye week. If you did, you were spot on. Even for those like myself that wanted Ridder to get as much time as he needed to develop into a viable starter, that was a hard pill to swallow given how Mariota was pissing games away especially in the latter half of the season. Now, with that being said, define inferior. It's very possible that Ridder, skill wise, was the better player overall, but because 1) he's a rookie and 2) doesn't know how to run a complicated NFL offense, he's still the "worse" option. In any case, all of this has been explained ad nauseum so I'm not gonna beat a dead horse. That ship has sailed. Whether he starts or not, Ridder will be on the roster in 2023. Mariota most likely will not. It's weird that you're criticizing AS for keeping Ridder on the bench as long as he did, and now you seem to be very much against the idea of Ridder being a starter. I am against it because your own head coach thought Mariota the superior QB to start on Sundays, while the team was in actual playoff contention. We all saw Mariota play and so did Smith, yet he kept trotting out Mariota week after week. You are saying that Smith intentionally threw games so you can feel better about some made up timeframe regarding Ridder. You understand that , right? I'm going to have to trust the head coaches accounting of the story instead of some made up garbage from a forum, to make it seem like Ridder was always playing at the bye, because that was never the case, pure circumstance. natod12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 14 minutes ago, TheUsualStuff said: Jeff George had his issues as a leader and being a prima-donna, but he could throw the ball. The other ones and 84-90 crew.... not so much. Million Dollar arm with a 10-cent head duckhoa and TheUsualStuff 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFanSince194eva Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Swayzee said: You do realize how absolutely ridiculous that sounds? You are essentially saying the the HC CHOSE to play an inferior player, in a playoff race, to fit some BS schedule that the Ridder fan club have literally made up to match chonologcally.. No way, that the HC was telling the truth, and backing up up with the fact that Mariota was playing week in and week out. Hey Im in the Ridder fan club and hoping the best for him (its the quickest and fastest way to rebuild) and I don't believe this BS. AS never had a plan other than never giving Ridder a chance until it didn't matter anymore. Anyone with eyes could see that. Swayzee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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