andrews31cain21 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I know this shouldnt be here in this forum, but it keeps bugging me about how the raiders want to trade carr before his guarantee kicks in.. according to the NFL website trading period starts on March 15, so how can he be traded before his guarantees kick in? I dont know why its bugging me, but it is...lol... I'm just curious how they plan on getting around this, Thiccolas Cage and jetpac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Haven't you heard? The NFL is scripted. On page 276 it's right there... Mark Davis: (while the bowl is placed on his head for a haircut) Trade him! Trade him now! falconsd56, papachaz, rcky_mtn_falcon and 5 others 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjacob25 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I’ve been curious about this as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvinthemartian Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 17 minutes ago, Jesus said: Haven't you heard? The NFL is scripted. On page 276 it's right there... Mark Davis: (while the bowl is placed on his head for a haircut) Trade him! Trade him now! That is one more weird looking person. Kinda looks like Mark Zuckerberg’ fat cousin. falconsd56, Jesus, papachaz and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Davis is dumb. Moving Carr sets them back 2 seasons. 1 because they’re never going to stumble into a better QB they can afford and 2 because their best scoring weapon will want out and may not perform at his best because Carr is one of the other reasons he came to Vegas. PokerSteve, Emmitt, Drunken Minotaur Zebra and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Is that his roster bonus or is his salary on his contract set up that way? I know certain players have certain money guaranteed to them on certain dates where bonuses and parts of their salary is guaranteed if they are still on the roster by that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/derek-carr-14445/ He currently only has 5.625 guaranteed remaining, so if they were to trade or release him, they would save almost 30mil. If they wait until 2/15 however, then his 2023 salary becomes fully guaranteed as well as 7.5 of his 2024 salary. Now, they could still trade him at that point, as the salary would move to the new team, but cutting him becomes not viable. He also has a no trade clause in his contract which means that he'd have to OK any trade agreed to, and there are few teams able and/or willing to take on that large of a cap hit. Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 36 minutes ago, Jesus said: Haven't you heard? The NFL is scripted. On page 276 it's right there... Mark Davis: (while the bowl is placed on his head for a haircut) Trade him! Trade him now! He might've gotten a lot action with that hair cut. .....and his dad's money. Although I think Al would've left him out of his will entirely and disowned him if had known that his son would bring Jon Gruden back as HC of the Raiders after he was dead. Jesus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA91 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 37 minutes ago, Jesus said: Haven't you heard? The NFL is scripted. On page 276 it's right there... Mark Davis: (while the bowl is placed on his head for a haircut) Trade him! Trade him now! Dude has a bowl mullet. Two of the most notorious and ridiculed haircuts of all time. That takes some cajones. Brave man indeed. Emmitt, Jpg428gggg, Thiccolas Cage and 2 others 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, hjerry said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/derek-carr-14445/ He currently only has 5.625 guaranteed remaining, so if they were to trade or release him, they would save almost 30mil. If they wait until 2/15 however, then his 2023 salary becomes fully guaranteed as well as 7.5 of his 2024 salary. Now, they could still trade him at that point, as the salary would move to the new team, but cutting him becomes not viable. He also has a no trade clause in his contract which means that he'd have to OK any trade agreed to, and there are few teams able and/or willing to take on that large of a cap hit. So basically Carr can be a pain in the Raiders *** if he chooses to. Killing Floor and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 6 minutes ago, DonDaLuvMaker said: So basically Carr can be a pain in the Raiders *** if he chooses to. He's already stated that he won't waive the no trade clause Killing Floor and DonDaLuvMaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpac Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 10 minutes ago, hjerry said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/derek-carr-14445/ He currently only has 5.625 guaranteed remaining, so if they were to trade or release him, they would save almost 30mil. If they wait until 2/15 however, then his 2023 salary becomes fully guaranteed as well as 7.5 of his 2024 salary. Now, they could still trade him at that point, as the salary would move to the new team, but cutting him becomes not viable. He also has a no trade clause in his contract which means that he'd have to OK any trade agreed to, and there are few teams able and/or willing to take on that large of a cap hit. They trade cannot legally take place until 3/15 he can negotiate in good faith to kick his bonus until then or after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, FA91 said: Dude has a bowl mullet. Two of the most notorious and ridiculed haircuts of all time. That takes some cajones. Brave man indeed. The man drove(I think he still does) a 97' Dodge Caravan for years. Al Davis' sense of style didn't spill over into his only child. FA91 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 51 minutes ago, Jesus said: Haven't you heard? The NFL is scripted. On page 276 it's right there... Mark Davis: (while the bowl is placed on his head for a haircut) Trade him! Trade him now! Didn't know Disney+ was doing a show about Jabba the Hutt. Hate the redesign, though. Ezekiel 25:17, Killing Floor, Jesus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, hjerry said: He's already stated that he won't waive the no trade clause Carr is about to be the wife that refuses to leave because she has you by the balls when she caught you cheating. This relationship could be pure **** before it's overwith. papachaz, PokerSteve and FA91 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuskillzz Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 59 minutes ago, marvinthemartian said: That is one more weird looking person. Kinda looks like Mark Zuckerberg’ fat cousin. He reminds me of the kid from Bad Santa grown up socalriseup and CrimsonFalcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 51 minutes ago, jetpac said: They trade cannot legally take place until 3/15 he can negotiate in good faith to kick his bonus until then or after. Already said that he won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDFalcon Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 hours ago, Jesus said: Haven't you heard? The NFL is scripted. On page 276 it's right there... Mark Davis: (while the bowl is placed on his head for a haircut) Trade him! Trade him now! This is a million Dollar hair cut. Good god. Someone made a killing money. Jesus and DonDaLuvMaker 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 hours ago, DonDaLuvMaker said: Carr is about to be the wife that refuses to leave because she has you by the balls when she caught you cheating. This relationship could be pure **** before it's overwith. I feel like he is smart. I am sure he knows what teams are interested in him. Force the Raiders hand to cut you, pick your spot where you want to go and the team did not have to lose draft picks to obtain his services meaning that's just 1+ more piece(s) for the roster. I hate the Saints but Carr makes a ton of sense for them. Would require a lot of pieces being moved around to create cap space but we see them do it every year. DonDaLuvMaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flrybranch Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Hope he goes to the taints. The way his contract will have to be structured guarantees them several more years of CAP purgatory. Dennis Allen ain't SP and will not be able to coach his way around those cap issues. Edit: FTS dyrtysouth2000 and CrimsonFalcon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIsNotFantasyFootball Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 hours ago, Jesus said: Haven't you heard? The NFL is scripted. On page 276 it's right there... Mark Davis: (while the bowl is placed on his head for a haircut) Trade him! Trade him now! Is that Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum? Jesus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 8 hours ago, Jesus said: Haven't you heard? The NFL is scripted. On page 276 it's right there... Mark Davis: (while the bowl is placed on his head for a haircut) Trade him! Trade him now! Why hasn't Mark Davis been sued for appropriating Mo Howard's haircut?? Norwood all the way! and Jesus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 25 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: I feel like he is smart. I am sure he knows what teams are interested in him. Force the Raiders hand to cut you, pick your spot where you want to go and the team did not have to lose draft picks to obtain his services meaning that's just 1+ more piece(s) for the roster. I hate the Saints but Carr makes a ton of sense for them. Would require a lot of pieces being moved around to create cap space but we see them do it every year. It'll be interesting for sure. I think Jets are closest to win now mode in that all they really need is a QB to be a very dangerous team. I don't know how the LV market is like with it being a very new NFL territory but if Carr thinks he can handle being in NY then he should definitely go to the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, INDFalcon said: This is a million Dollar hair cut. Good god. Someone made a killing money. Leave Mark Davis alone. He probably struts around thinking it's sexy to women. 😆 ItsJustMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpac Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 hours ago, hjerry said: Already said that he won't He said he wouldn’t at that time because they wouldn’t allow him to explore trade options. Now that they have I expect that to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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