Doctor Kildare Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 The predicted Falcons starter is Desmond Ridder! But they have the Falcons making a weak offer for Carr and an offer for Brissett who elects to stay with the Browns. Other highlights of the simulation includes Carr wisely rejecting a trade to the Aints. The predicted starters for the rest of the division: Carolina - Sam Darnold/ Will Levis Aints -Andy Dalton/ Hendon Hooker Tampa - Blaine Gabbert/ Anthony Richardson "We asked our NFL Nation reporters to serve as GMs for their teams and decide what to do at their most important position. The stand-in GMs put together trade packages for passers who could be made available by their teams and pitched contract offers to free agents, with national reporter Dan Graziano playing the role of player rep to "sign" new deals here. They also projected franchise tags and cap casualty cuts. And finally, they mocked the first two rounds of the 2023 draft to address the future. Chances are Chriss Simms is not amused by this simulation. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35553112/simulating-nfl-quarterback-offseason-change-projections-trade-offers-free-agent-signings-draft-picks-2023 midas_whale and Lionzblade 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDFalcon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) I am not sure why all these so called "Pundits" look down on Ridder. They always think Falcons are in the shop for QB change. I think he is capable. We need to give him a full season to decide whether he is cut out to be a QB at NFL level or not. In his 4 games he looked poised for a rookie and I think he will continue to develop. Edited February 4 by INDFalcon Norwood all the way!, YungFalco, Killing Floor and 15 others 13 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, INDFalcon said: I am not sure why all these so called "Pundits" look down on Ridder. They always think Falcons are in the shop for QB change. I think he is capable. We need to give me a full season to decide whether he is cut out to be a QB at NFL level or not. In his 4 games he looked poised for a rookie and I think he will continue to develop. Rothstein (the Falcons rep in the article) actually said part of why he offered so low for Carr/Brissett was the trust in a Ridder this staff seems to have. Fwiw ItsJustMe, Knight of God, rounz and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Francis York Morgan said: Rothstein (the Falcons rep in the article) actually said part of why he offered so low for Carr/Brissett was the trust in a Ridder this staff seems to have. Fwiw I was once the Falcons rep on Drafttek...so there is that. Kaptain Krazy, Killing Floor, Lionzblade and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 14 minutes ago, Swayzee said: I was once the Falcons rep on Drafttek...so there is that. ....good for you? Rothstein is on ESPN, not what amounts to a fan forum. Doesn't matter either way - the whole point of that post was that the "pundits" in question aren't looking down on Ridder. BtK and Tribal Chief 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Blaine Gabbert is still playing? Dayum. ItsJustMe, Pacific_Falcon, MilleniumFalcon and 4 others 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Francis York Morgan said: ....good for you? Rothstein is on ESPN, not what amounts to a fan forum. Doesn't matter either way - the whole point of that post was that the "pundits" in question aren't looking down on Ridder. Lets see who is starting week 1 and then we can talk about who is right and wrong. Until then it is all a guess. I'm personally very comfortable in saying Ridder will not start week 1 for the Falcons. Sure others are equally as comfortable saying Ridder. At the end of the day none of our jobs are on the line, theirs may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Pulling for Des. Mr.11, tbhawksfan, Killing Floor and 7 others 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: Blaine Gabbert is still playing? Dayum. Blain Gabbert played and tossed a TD in the last game against the Bucs. He had a 100+ QB rating some if we project that out over 17 games he could be an option as well😘. I mean he went 6-8 and a TD, and 119 QBR last year, so just imagine what the numbers would be in a full season! Edited February 4 by Swayzee Dr Long Shot, Diesel_Bird, FalconJim and 4 others 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramonezy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I'm pulling for Des as well, but this "give him a season" talk ignores the other 52 players on the team. We need to bring in solid candidates to potentially take over if it doesn't pan out... Whether that's a seasoned vet to take us through the season to next year's draft or another young QB as competition, but we can't just "give a year" Pacific_Falcon and dyrtysouth2000 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Doctor Kildare said: The predicted Falcons starter is Desmond Ridder The predicted starters for the rest of the division: Carolina - Sam Darnold/ Will Levis Aints -Andy Dalton/ Hendon Hooker Tampa - Blaine Gabbert/ Anthony Richardson https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35553112/simulating-nfl-quarterback-offseason-change-projections-trade-offers-free-agent-signings-draft-picks-2023 If those end up being the NFCS QBs, AND Ridder is the QB many on TATF believe he is, the expectation should be to win the division. From the days of Brady, Brees, Ryan, and Newton to Darnold, Dalton, Gabbert, and Ridder... Killing Floor, Pacific_Falcon and falconsd56 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Me likey. Levis, Dalton, Gabbert sounds like 5 or 5 division wins. Lionzblade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiccolas Cage Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Herr Doktor said: Blaine Gabbert is still playing? Dayum. Yeah my buddy brought his name up at work yesterday and I was like for real? That dude is still in the league? Lol Herr Doktor and Lionzblade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, INDFalcon said: I am not sure why all these so called "Pundits" look down on Ridder. They always think Falcons are in the shop for QB change. I think he is capable. We need to give him a full season to decide whether he is cut out to be a QB at NFL level or not. In his 4 games he looked poised for a rookie and I think he will continue to develop. 2 hours ago, Francis York Morgan said: Rothstein (the Falcons rep in the article) actually said part of why he offered so low for Carr/Brissett was the trust in a Ridder this staff seems to have. Fwiw As much as some of us like Ridder and believe he can at minimum be a good game manager in Smith's scheme, he's far from a proven commodity. And worst of all, he definitely lacks the star power and marketing impact a Lamar Jackson would provide, maybe even a Derek Carr or Jimmy G. would offer. The Arthur Blank Splash QB Quest is very likely still in play. That overrides anything Desmond Ridder can offer as a QB. We already know by the failed Deshaun Watson trade literally nothing in the way of draft picks, contract amount or guarantees will deter this search for The QB to resurrect SRO crowds in MBS. Fasten your seatbelts and return your tray to the upright position. It's going to be a tumultuous off-season with perhaps plenty of monetary turbulence. Pacific_Falcon, 4dabirds and INDFalcon 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 hours ago, INDFalcon said: I am not sure why all these so called "Pundits" look down on Ridder. They always think Falcons are in the shop for QB change. I think he is capable. We need to give him a full season to decide whether he is cut out to be a QB at NFL level or not. In his 4 games he looked poised for a rookie and I think he will continue to develop. IMO even more than a year. If he stumbles the entire year and doesnt seem to be progressing, i think maybe you put together a contingency plan, but quitting on a qb after 20ish starts doesnt seem like a good idea. bossFALCON™, PokerSteve and Sui_Generis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 18 minutes ago, Pacific_Falcon said: IMO even more than a year. If he stumbles the entire year and doesnt seem to be progressing, i think maybe you put together a contingency plan, but quitting on a qb after 20ish starts doesnt seem like a good idea. Agree. Especially when 2023 is not the year you expect the team to be ready to go deep in the playoffs anyway. Ridder might under-perform, but there's also that realistic chance he could over-perform and you don't have to spend big for a QB. Lionzblade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, PokerSteve said: As much as some of us like Ridder and believe he can at minimum be a good game manager in Smith's scheme, he's far from a proven commodity. And worst of all, he definitely lacks the star power and marketing impact a Lamar Jackson would provide, maybe even a Derek Carr or Jimmy G. would offer. The Arthur Blank Splash QB Quest is very likely still in play. That overrides anything Desmond Ridder can offer as a QB. We already know by the failed Deshaun Watson trade literally nothing in the way of draft picks, contract amount or guarantees will deter this search for The QB to resurrect SRO crowds in MBS. Fasten your seatbelts and return your tray to the upright position. It's going to be a tumultuous off-season with perhaps plenty of monetary turbulence. Actually there is proof that goes against your statement. The reason Watson went to the Browns over ATL is because they would not match the guarantees on the contract. Blank has already proven that there is a limit and he isn't going tocl sacrifice the franchise to solely sell tickets he wants to win 1SB before the end Voice of Reason, Lionzblade and RetroRoq 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, FalconofShadows said: Actually there is proof that goes against your statement. The reason Watson went to the Browns over ATL is because they would not match the guarantees on the contract. Blank has already proven that there is a limit and he isn't going tocl sacrifice the franchise to solely sell tickets he wants to win 1SB before the end That's correct, but that doesn't mean Blank will balk next time since that is now the new standard deal for franchise-level QB's. If TF gets a contract anywhere close to what we were going to agree to in the Watson deal, Blank isn't going to get out-bid this time around. Swayzee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, PokerSteve said: That's correct, but that doesn't mean Blank will balk next time since that is now the new standard deal for franchise-level QB's. If TF gets a contract anywhere close to what we were going to agree to in the Watson deal, Blank isn't going to get out-bid this time around. That's going to depend. What if Burrow signs this offseason prior to a Lamar deal happening and it is not fully guaranteed. Then the standard stays the same. People also gotta remember Whole Lamar doesn't have the off field concerns like Watson he does have on field concerns. Last 2 years often Injured and he has regressed when onthe field. Blank(and fans) hopefully don't get caught up in just wanting another Vick that the will sacrifice the franchise for sme fun moments Thiccolas Cage and Lionzblade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 36 minutes ago, Pacific_Falcon said: IMO even more than a year. If he stumbles the entire year and doesnt seem to be progressing, i think maybe you put together a contingency plan, but quitting on a qb after 20ish starts doesnt seem like a good idea. Improving the roster and creating an enviroment of stiff competition is not quitting on a player. If Ridder cannot beat out Derrick Car or similar he shouldn't be starting because that level of QB play is what is needed to be a playoff caliber team. RetroRoq 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 hours ago, Swayzee said: Lets see who is starting week 1 and then we can talk about who is right and wrong. Until then it is all a guess. I'm personally very comfortable in saying Ridder will not start week 1 for the Falcons. Sure others are equally as comfortable saying Ridder. At the end of the day none of our jobs are on the line, theirs may be. Didn’t you also make an incorrect prediction about our starting qb last season? Lionzblade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, FalconofShadows said: That's going to depend. What if Burrow signs this offseason prior to a Lamar deal happening and it is not fully guaranteed. Then the standard stays the same. People also gotta remember Whole Lamar doesn't have the off field concerns like Watson he does have on field concerns. Last 2 years often Injured and he has regressed when onthe field. Blank(and fans) hopefully don't get caught up in just wanting another Vick that the will sacrifice the franchise for sme fun moments Agree and I'm not for it, but this is the "Go For Broke" age and shoving all your chips in with Ace high is now considered daring and bold rather than dumb and banal. Your potential risk is way out of proportion to your chances of winning a Lombardi this way imo. We aren't really in the position to go for broke to begin with because we don't have the defense you need to go with the elite QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, FalconofShadows said: That's going to depend. What if Burrow signs this offseason prior to a Lamar deal happening and it is not fully guaranteed. Then the standard stays the same. People also gotta remember Whole Lamar doesn't have the off field concerns like Watson he does have on field concerns. Last 2 years often Injured and he has regressed when onthe field. Blank(and fans) hopefully don't get caught up in just wanting another Vick that the will sacrifice the franchise for sme fun moments What are we sacrificing exactly, do tell? We suck, we have sucked for 5 straight years. This building a defense and the trenches is not a new thought, as I have been hearing it since the 80's. This narrative about paying the QB and ensuring that we are in cap **** is flat out ********. The issue was never paying Ryan, it was the restructuring every year, so many other bad contracts, and trying to force open a window that clearly was closed. Funny fact, is a lot of those who thought the window was still open from 18-21' and had no issue mortgaging the future, are the same preaching fiscal responsibility this time around. Frank_The_Tank and RetroRoq 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Lethal said: Didn’t you also make an incorrect prediction about our starting qb last season? Maybe, I say a lot of dumb ****. If I did, whoever I had in mind were most likely better than the Mariota/Ridder combo. Lethal, Vandy, Lionzblade and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Swayzee said: Maybe, I say a lot of dumb ****. If I did, whoever I had in mind were most likely better than the Mariota/Ridder combo. 🤣 fair PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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