JDaveG Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: He HIRED Dan Reeves... not FIRED Dan Reeves... at least not until his quadruple bypass made the health insurance go up 🤣 No, the Smiths hired Dan Reeves. Blank fired him after one bad season where Vick broke his leg. richardc, papachaz, shc and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I got your ******* old timer.. Peteshweddy, Ghosts of Glanville, RING OF HONOR and 4 others 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Mister pudding said: He HIRED Dan Reeves... not FIRED Dan Reeves... at least not until his quadruple bypass made the health insurance go up 🤣 Hrrrrmmm… I’m not sure you are correct. Mister pudding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I’ve still got the Budweiser mini keg that was given to me by my sister-in-law that I tapped the day of the NFCCG. I went into that game prepared to see the Falcons lose; it was one of those situations where you thought something was too good to be true when it came to the thought of the Falcons having a shot at going to the SB. Minnesota still hasn’t gotten over that loss. VTCrunkler and richardc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 24 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said: This is where I have to respectfully disagree. We had one of the most prolific passing attacks that year with Mathis and Martin. We trailed only Minnesota that year by something like 7 yards, and that was with Minny having a Chris Carter in his prime and a young stud named Randy Moss. The reason why so many think about our running game was due Anderson being such a personality who was excellent with the media. Lastly, can we put to rest this whole “Dan Reeves loved his TEs” junk? Dan Reeves took over this team just after our Run-n-shoot days. The team literally had NO tight ends. His cupboard was bare so he began drafting them for a couple of years in order to “stock the shelves”. But he did a fine job in this department (Reggie Kelly, Alge Crumpler, OJ Santiago). I agree. I didn’t think he was wrong. Just drawing the line to AS and Pitts. I think DR was a great coach. I think if he hadn’t been fired, the MV7 years would have been even better and likely no dog issues. Jim Mora wasn’t a coach, he was a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said: This is where I have to respectfully disagree. We had one of the most prolific passing attacks that year with Mathis and Martin. We trailed only Minnesota that year by something like 7 yards, and that was with Minny having a Chris Carter in his prime and a young stud named Randy Moss. The reason why so many think about our running game was due Anderson being such a personality who was excellent with the media. 1,850 yards (highest in team history) and 14 TDs had more to do with it than his personality. What I loved most about that team was it’s defense. RetroRoq, VTCrunkler and Brookings 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Biskie Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Yeah I remember that year. The Dirty Birds were born. Breath of fresh air after the Run and Shoot Jeff George years. Even though I liked those years. Underrated offense and defense. Strong run game. Two good playmakers at wrs. Chandler was accurate and had a nice deep ball. Tony Martin was deadly deep and killed teams when they stacked the box. O J Santiago at TE. Defense had one of the best dline in the league. Prime Tuggle and Bennent at lb. Prime Big play Ray and Eugene Robinson in the secondary. They ran the gap scheme to perfection. The stars were aligned that year similar to our last super bowl run. we couldn’t sustain it because we ran jam into the ground without a good side kick. Byran Hanspard was supposed to be that guy lol. Tony Martin got caught up with money laundering charges. Chandler was injury prone. Big play ray turned into one play ray. Eugene Robinson didn’t know the protocol of soliciting a hooker lol. Bennent retired and we were suddenly back to an avg team. Hopefully we can catch lightning in the bottle again soon. I think they were like 7 and 9 before they went 14 2 maybe we can do that next year with the cash we have. All gears ran similar to JAM. Tyler may have more speed. They kinda have the same voice. Weird Edited January 31 by Bobby Biskie papachaz, VTCrunkler and Brookings 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 59 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said: This is where I have to respectfully disagree. We had one of the most prolific passing attacks that year with Mathis and Martin. We trailed only Minnesota that year by something like 7 yards, and that was with Minny having a Chris Carter in his prime and a young stud named Randy Moss. The reason why so many think about our running game was due Anderson being such a personality who was excellent with the media. Lastly, can we put to rest this whole “Dan Reeves loved his TEs” junk? Dan Reeves took over this team just after our Run-n-shoot days. The team literally had NO tight ends. His cupboard was bare so he began drafting them for a couple of years in order to “stock the shelves”. But he did a fine job in this department (Reggie Kelly, Alge Crumpler, OJ Santiago). If I recall correctly, Reeves set everything up with a bruising running game with ball control offense. He made sure he has QBs who could throw an accurate deep ball, largely off play action after eviscerating defenses on the ground. He really loved good blocking TEs which is what Reggie Kelly was, although Kelly was overdrafted for a blocking TE. Crump could also block and was strong as an ox. Without going back and looking, seems to me Reeves got the running game going first, then we signed Tony Martin in FA and this thing all came together. Mathis was a great possession receiver. We were lethal in PA passing, many deep balls went for very long plays. Martin was the final piece if I recall, he stretched the field and opened the offense completely up. But we had so many drafts that were horrible in a row it caught up to us. Also, Blank interfered it seems in the Peerless Price acquisition. I don’t believe Reeves wanted Price, he wasn’t a legit #1, he was a great #2with alligator arms. VTCrunkler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 44 minutes ago, Moist Words said: Old timers? 97-98? I don't like the wording of the question and I refuse to answer. I concur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, RING OF HONOR said: I concur Does watching OJ Simpson run in 3 feet of snow at Rich Stadium in Buffalo in the early 70’s make me an old timer? 📜 Brookings and RING OF HONOR 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Don't hate the offense at all, just think he forgets you gotta also score points sometimes. It definitely feels like our RZ offense is better than years past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookings Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 ****? Any old timers remember the 2016-2017 season? Seems like 30 years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 38 minutes ago, Malachore said: Don't hate the offense at all, just think he forgets you gotta also score points sometimes. It definitely feels like our RZ offense is better than years past. Agree. I never could figure out why our RZ was so bad. If I had to guess I’d say it was because we didn’t have a run game. Now, we just smash it in. I love when we get a good scrum if 4-5 guys pushing TA or CP into the endzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmitt Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 ****, I remember the 77 team….. 7 years old and every Falcon game, Dad would have it turned on. I had one of those kids Falcon football uniforms with the plastic helmet. I had it on the entire game every Sunday. During the commercials, Dad would throw me the football in the living room. Sorry Mama. RIP to the both of them. Malachore and VTCrunkler 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibachi Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, richardc said: I’m sure I’ll get flamed on this, but WTH. Has AB come full circle? He bought the team and fires Dan Reeves. DR was a coach that came in and applied discipline to a faltering team. A late pick RB named Jamal Anderson emerged as the RB1 and punished defenses. An O-Line that wasn’t great, but could maul defenses when run blocking. DR loved TE’s (who doesn’t), and everyone thought he was crazy for drafting them with high picks. In 97 after a rough start, we hit a 6 or more win streak and carried that into the 98 season. Even with a 14-2 record, nobody believed in the Dirty Birds because they were not a fancy offense, but they were a low penalized, run first and run often, grind the clock team with a young nobody defense that just won games. Not a 100% direct analogy, but pretty close. I know many of you hate the AS offense, but I love it. A punishing run game does so much in setting you up to win in the NFL. YES, you do need to be able to hit some passes, but it: - Burns the clock, shortens the game, and keeps the opposing offense in the bench, minimizes opponents opportunities on offense. - Demoralizes and wears down a defense & nullifies a pass rush - Allows you to close about a game Eager to see how our defense improves. Go Falcons and it’s time to bring back the Dirty Bird! Durtay Berds Brookings and richardc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookings Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 How bout that 67 season? Good times. Emmitt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Heck, maybe we bring back the grits blitz also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shc Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 3 hours ago, richardc said: Hrrrrmmm… I’m not sure you are correct. Blank bought the team in 2002. There was plenty of speculation that one thing that did reeves in, was that he wasn’t a Blank hire. Edited January 31 by shc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Remember the win in Foxbough as the catalyst they clowned the Patriots that day. Also the Niners in the playoffs watching Jam run roughshod over there defense. 2 games outside of the obvious that stood out for me that season. Emmitt and VTCrunkler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 24 minutes ago, shc said: Blank bought the team in 2002. There was plenty of speculation that one thing that did reeves in, was that he wasn’t a Blank hire. Not really. What gets lost is that Arthur stated from the start that he idolized the Steelers and the way they hired young coaches and just stuck with them until they retired. He loved the stability and used to preach about it. Knowing this, Reeves publicly stated that he told Arthur to tell him if he ever decided to go with a new coach. Once our winning began to wain, Arthur made up his mind and told Reeves he planned to move on at the end of the year. Reeves decided to quit mid season rather than see the season through. Many thought he did this to give his good friend Wade Phillips a chance to take over and prove himself a viable head coaching candidate. No matter, Arthur went out to find himself his own version of Tomlin…a young defensive up-n-coming coach…and that’s how we got Mora. RetroRoq and brando27 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFanSC Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, gazoo said: If I recall correctly, Reeves set everything up with a bruising running game with ball control offense. He made sure he has QBs who could throw an accurate deep ball, largely off play action after eviscerating defenses on the ground. He really loved good blocking TEs which is what Reggie Kelly was, although Kelly was overdrafted for a blocking TE. Crump could also block and was strong as an ox. Without going back and looking, seems to me Reeves got the running game going first, then we signed Tony Martin in FA and this thing all came together. Mathis was a great possession receiver. We were lethal in PA passing, many deep balls went for very long plays. Martin was the final piece if I recall, he stretched the field and opened the offense completely up. But we had so many drafts that were horrible in a row it caught up to us. Also, Blank interfered it seems in the Peerless Price acquisition. I don’t believe Reeves wanted Price, he wasn’t a legit #1, he was a great #2with alligator arms. Getting that deep speed threat is what is needed this offseason. richardc and gazoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shc Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 47 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said: Not really. What gets lost is that Arthur stated from the start that he idolized the Steelers and the way they hired young coaches and just stuck with them until they retired. He loved the stability and used to preach about it. Knowing this, Reeves publicly stated that he told Arthur to tell him if he ever decided to go with a new coach. Once our winning began to wain, Arthur made up his mind and told Reeves he planned to move on at the end of the year. Reeves decided to quit mid season rather than see the season through. Many thought he did this to give his good friend Wade Phillips a chance to take over and prove himself a viable head coaching candidate. No matter, Arthur went out to find himself his own version of Tomlin…a young defensive up-n-coming coach…and that’s how we got Mora. I think your timeline is off Tomlin wasn’t hired as Steelers head coach until 2007. While Blank did say he wanted continuity at the head coach position, that wasn’t until after Petrino. And Dan Reeves leaving in season had more to do with his pride than helping Wade Phillips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, shc said: I think your timeline is off Tomlin wasn’t hired as Steelers head coach until 2007. While Blank did say he wanted continuity at the head coach position, that wasn’t until after Petrino. And Dan Reeves leaving in season had more to do with his pride than helping Wade Phillips. I was just using Tomlin as an example. Change it to Cowert if you want. The point is, he wanted a young coach and he preferred a defensive coach since it seemed like every SB winning coach was defensive minded at the time. But as for the stability and continuity statement, he was talking about this all the way back in 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc44 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, Jesus said: I think this current run game is more like the guy who replaced Reeves in Denver: Mike Shanahan. Everyone who came in became a 1000 yard rusher. After Elway retired he struggled to find a replacement QB eventually losing the job after a few losing seasons. Reeves Atlanta offense was built on the back of Jam but also on the deep balls to Mathis and Martin. They both averaged 17.9 ypc. If you haven't already dig into this. Maybe the greatest football game of all time... Chris Chandler could sell the play action, too! GO FALCONS!!!! Emmitt, Jesus and VTCrunkler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, Moist Words said: Old timers? 97-98? I don't like the wording of the question and I refuse to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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