WhiteKB0111 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I remember when Quinn picked Shanny, he said he was the hardest OC to defend. AS is a good OC, he knows who/what makes it hard on him as an OC. Plus, AS has played NO 4 times now, so he has first hand experience looking at the game plan and how adjustments have been made in game. This coupled with his experience with TF make me excited about the future of our D because: 1. TF already has a proven track record of evaluating, drafting, and signing FAs to provide talent on the Defensive side of the ball with this coach and possible system 2. Nielsen has the coaching experience under good DC's and has proven to consistently generate a pass rush from DL. 3. Nielsen knows how to develop talent and I'm assuming he was involved in player evaluation with TF at NO. My only concern is play calling, can he call a game and have the players execute? PokerSteve, YungFalco, Chitown2ATL_Falcon and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 AS has never played against Nielson's defenses though, since he didn't call the plays falconsd56, Chitown2ATL_Falcon, tbhawksfan and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 You seem to be assuming TF was NO's GM and Nielsen was NO's DC in all of these points. Mr.11, tbhawksfan, Swayzee and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Lornoth said: You seem to be assuming TF was NO's GM and Nielson was NO's DC in all of these points. There's been a lot of that going around. bossFALCON™ and Swayzee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: There's been a lot of that going around. Yeah, I'm all for being optimistic and hoping they had involvement and learned everything possible, but when you say things like TF has a proven track record drafting guys for Nielsen's scheme, when TF wasn't even the college scout guy and it wasn't Nielsen's defense... it's a bit much. tbhawksfan, Swayzee, TheUsualStuff and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Saints have had a good defense despite their cap troubles. So that gives me confidence. It’s a Grand Canyon sized reach to call Smith a good OC. We were “goofy play calls” and offensive roster management away from a 11 win season, or more. Pees kept us swinging and remember defense won several of our games (Hawks, Browns, Niners). jetpac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Bird Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I’m not all that worried. While defense didn’t give up a whole lot of points last year, they couldn’t get off the field, nor rush the passer. So I’m still in the can’t get much worse crowd. Falconcheff, Killing Floor and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Lornoth said: Yeah, I'm all for being optimistic and hoping they had involvement and learned everything possible, but when you say things like TF has a proven track record drafting guys for Nielsen's scheme, when TF wasn't even the college scout guy and it wasn't Nielsen's defense... it's a bit much. 😂😂 Mr.11, TheUsualStuff, Falcons_Frenzy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconAge Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Killing Floor said: Saints have had a good defense despite their cap troubles. So that gives me confidence. It’s a Grand Canyon sized reach to call Smith a good OC. We were “goofy play calls” and offensive roster management away from a 11 win season, or more. Pees kept us swinging and remember defense won several of our games (Hawks, Browns, Niners). His years in Tennessee he took roughly the same roster that had been there to heights they hadnt reached before and haven't reached since. Many if not most of those "game-losing plays" were on the players and we have been competitive in games we had no business. And lastly this teams defense was holding us back twice as much as our offense. With even decent talent upgrades this offseason this man will have us balling on offense, I can already tell. Francis York Morgan, Lornoth, Chitown2ATL_Falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, FalconAge said: His years in Tennessee he took roughly the same roster that had been there to heights they hadnt reached before and haven't reached since. Many if not most of those "game-losing plays" were on the players and we have been competitive in games we had no business. And lastly this teams defense was holding us back twice as much as our offense. With even decent talent upgrades this offseason this man will have us balling on offense, I can already tell. I am a lifer Falcons fan. I watched the games this year. If you want to watch game 10, and then watch game 11, and come back to check me on this, I can take it. Because I know you’re a fan too. But if you’re the head coach of a consistently losing football team and you’re “100% behind the butt pass”, so much so that you wouldn’t even entertain a tweaking of the game plan, that’s not a sound game day decision maker. We will not agree on this one. SMITH is more critical to our losses than even Mariota. Because Smith was Mariota’s biggest advocate. Respectfully agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpac Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Stopped reading at As is a good OC. Jury is out on that, verdict currently doesn’t look too good dcfalcons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, jetpac said: Stopped reading at As is a good OC. Jury is out on that, verdict currently doesn’t look too good If you stopped reading at the 2nd sentence, why would you STILL waste our time with your post? It adds absolutely ZERO value to the conversation. ATLskinjob and Godzilla1985 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 18 hours ago, FalconAge said: His years in Tennessee he took roughly the same roster that had been there to heights they hadnt reached before and haven't reached since. Many if not most of those "game-losing plays" were on the players and we have been competitive in games we had no business. And lastly this teams defense was holding us back twice as much as our offense. With even decent talent upgrades this offseason this man will have us balling on offense, I can already tell. What games did we not have any business being in this past year? Look at the average score of an NFL game in 22' and we were no different than the rest of the league, as almost every game was a 1 score victory. Almost every week, every team played a close game, so not sure what you are getting at about having no business being in the game. Elaborate please. Edited January 29 by Swayzee falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKB0111 Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 20 hours ago, Lornoth said: Yeah, I'm all for being optimistic and hoping they had involvement and learned everything possible, but when you say things like TF has a proven track record drafting guys for Nielsen's scheme, when TF wasn't even the college scout guy and it wasn't Nielsen's defense... it's a bit much. That's fair, my point was that TF was around the draft process and what the organization looked for in it's players to fit that system, regardless if FA or Draft. I just think it's a good match, will be interesting to see if he can get us a pass rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpac Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 7 hours ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: If you stopped reading at the 2nd sentence, why would you STILL waste our time with your post? It adds absolutely ZERO value to the conversation. You just knew people were gonna “up vote” your sensitive post. Like you rode hard for it. Why wast our time!!!! Arrrrrrggg Calm down. To be fair to OP. His back to back 7-10 records suggest to me that the majority of the league gives his offense schemes fits. Which is why I said, the jury is still out on him being a good OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 hours ago, WhiteKB0111 said: That's fair, my point was that TF was around the draft process and what the organization looked for in it's players to fit that system, regardless if FA or Draft. I just think it's a good match, will be interesting to see if he can get us a pass rush. I hope he can. If nothing else TF should know how good Nielsen is better than most, and how much he actually did/knows. We need some DL talent in a big way. TF gets a mulligan for having no cap space the last few years, let's hope he can pull something big off. WhiteKB0111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 14 hours ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: If you stopped reading at the 2nd sentence, why would you STILL waste our time with your post? It adds absolutely ZERO value to the conversation. That’s his MO. My advice would be to block the bike helmet wearing little turd like I did. Edited January 30 by Godzilla1985 ATLskinjob and ADAMSVILLE GYM 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 A lot of this is speculation, but I actually like that the Falcons decided to go for new blood. The 2023 roster is going to be very young. It'll be good to see this young crop of coaches and players grow up together, innovate, and build a culture that will stand the test of time. Mid-Nite-Toker, YungFalco and ATLskinjob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 20 hours ago, jetpac said: You just knew people were gonna “up vote” your sensitive post. Like you rode hard for it. Why wast our time!!!! Arrrrrrggg Calm down. To be fair to OP. His back to back 7-10 records suggest to me that the majority of the league gives his offense schemes fits. Which is why I said, the jury is still out on him being a good OC. You should know by now that I’m not motivated by “upvotes” or “likes”. My motivation is happiness. jetpac, JDaveG and ATLskinjob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLskinjob Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: You should know by now that I’m not motivated by “upvotes” or “likes”. My motivation is happiness. Bro that picture.....😂😂😂 ADAMSVILLE GYM and jetpac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpac Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said: You should know by now that I’m not motivated by “upvotes” or “likes”. My motivation is happiness. ADAMSVILLE GYM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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