falconsd56 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, hjerry said: Hiring him doesn't necessarily mean bringing in Davenport. It could just as easily mean not bringing him in I would think that the likelihood of that happening improves significantly. jidady and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, jidady said: I doubt it since NO got rid of him for magic beans. All they got was moving a 7th up to a fifth and a sixth next year. That doesn't happen if the DCs like the player. I *like* CJGJ and had hoped we'd sign him. I'm afraid that's unlikely now. It does when you don't want to pay the guy. Chitown2ATL_Falcon and PokerSteve 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, falconsd56 said: I would think that the likelihood of that happening improves significantly. Maybe. We don't really know how this guy feels about him falconsd56, PokerSteve and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 FWIW, Davenport earned a 76.8 grade from PFF for 2022, 75.0 in pass rush. That's #32 in the league, which means he's right on the cusp of low DE1/high DE2. I wouldn't hate him if we draft a stud for the other side. Geaux_Falcons, RetroRoq and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, hjerry said: Maybe. We don't really know how this guy feels about him This is true. It is just a game of connecting the dots at this point. That doesn't mean that the dots will lead to one clear conclusion though. But this does have the telltale signs of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, PokerSteve said: Dude, he was the DL coach before he was DL coach-Asst DC. Between 2017 and last season the Saints had 233 sacks. That's several more than we had if you go check. This is a far smarter hire than all the "obvious" choices us dumb-zzz fans were slobbering over. We have the youth and talent, he has the teaching and motivation skills. It's okay to let go the suck and walk toward the light of day again. 😆 Is that coaching or talent? He has nothing to do with cam Jordan considering he was all stud before him. Not only that but just looking at this year 15 of their sacks came from linebackers. Does that fall on him?? Just looking at sack numbers does not give me warm and fuzzies about this guy falconsd56 and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, falconsd56 said: It does when you don't want to pay the guy. In that case, you let him play and then take the compensatory pick. They just didn't want him as the season began. It was weird, especially since he seems like a pretty good player to me. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 At least the Saints locked Lattimore so we can't over pay him VTCrunkler, jidady, PokerSteve and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, PokerSteve said: I’ll bet this kid knocks down Lego buildings with his forehead PokerSteve and VTCrunkler 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, falconsd56 said: I'm pretty sure that if we all made a collective list that he would be very low on the totem pole of guys that we wanted the team to hire. But as I keep saying I really don't care who calls the plays.... I just want to see the team win. If he can help us do that in 2023 then great. He was top 3 for me. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, jidady said: I doubt it since NO got rid of him for magic beans. All they got was moving a 7th up to a fifth and a sixth next year. That doesn't happen if the DCs like the player. I *like* CJGJ and had hoped we'd sign him. I'm afraid that's unlikely now. I think that was more of Dennis Allen's call. Heard from Saints fans the Allen was really the DC/playcaller and had much focus and say over the defense. Which was why they blame him for the offense being bad lol VTCrunkler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, hjerry said: For those wondering why we didn't take a proven name, we may not have had a choice. I said before, but our roster leaves a lot to be desired and we're not competing for a ring right now, so the proven names may have more or less let us know they weren't interested. No way to know for sure though This is actually a rational thought. Williamb and Spongebob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 12 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: This is true. It is just a game of connecting the dots at this point. That doesn't mean that the dots will lead to one clear conclusion though. But this does have the telltale signs of that happening. Falcons have shown steady, consistent interest in him throughout this whole process. I believe it was their guy all the time. There may have been someone in front of him, but Falcons have been on top of him this whole time. I know for a couple of weeks I’d zeroed in on him as the likely guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 12 minutes ago, hjerry said: For those wondering why we didn't take a proven name, we may not have had a choice. I said before, but our roster leaves a lot to be desired and we're not competing for a ring right now, so the proven names may have more or less let us know they weren't interested. No way to know for sure though This will likely be the case in free agency as well. Backups looking for starting gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 41 minutes ago, DonDaLuvMaker said: Falcons could go DE at 8. Probably Wilson or Murphy. Don't really care for Murphy but if Nielsen and his crew can develop his technique then he'll be a monster. Actually, Murphy is who I'd rather have. Wilson's style is more of a bender, like AK, which we already have. Murphy is more of a collapse the pocket kind of guy. In some of his highlights, he's getting sacks with an OT in between him and the QB. I like them both though and hope at least 5 QBs are picked before our pick 🤣🤣 (I know, ain't gonna happen, but it's the offseason so we can dream big). PokerSteve and DonDaLuvMaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamb Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Is that coaching or talent? He has nothing to do with cam Jordan considering he was all stud before him. Not only that but just looking at this year 15 of their sacks came from linebackers. Does that fall on him?? Just looking at sack numbers does not give me warm and fuzzies about this guy There are some here who wouldn't have "warm fuzzies" if Lombardi, Landry, Parcells, and Walsh were coaching the team. I withhold my opinion until I see field production. Guy has a decent resume and TF is familiar with his work. That's good enough for me and they basically didn't ask for our approval. youngbloodz, Mid-Nite-Toker, TheTrue7 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Falcons hire Saints' Ryan Nielsen as new defensive coordinator to replace retired Dean Pees Nielson was the co-defensive coordinator in New Orleans for the 2022 season By Jeff Kerr 59 mins ago•1 min read Getty Images The Atlanta Falcons have a defensive coordinator for the 2023 season, announcing the hire of Ryan Nielsen to the position. Nielsen served as the co-defensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints last season after starting in New Orleans as the defensive line coach -- a position which he served from 2017 to this past season. Nielsen will be responsible for calling the defense in Atlanta. Head coach Dennis Allen called the plays in New Orleans while Nielsen and defensive backs coach Kris Richard were co-defensive coordinators. Richard is the lone defensive coordinator in New Orleans with Nielsen off to Atlanta. Nielsen also was promoted to assistant head coach in 2021 and co-defensive coordinator in 2022 in addition to his defensive line coach duties. The Saints' defensive line was one of the best in the NFL during Nielsen's watch, not allowing a 100-yard rusher in 55 consecutive regular season and postseason games between 2017 and 2020. The Saints were third in the NFL in rushing yards per game since the 2017 season -- allowing just 100.4 rushing yards per contest. The 20.8 points per game allowed by the Saints were fifth fewest in the NFL under Nielsen's watch. Nielsen will replace Dean Pees, who retired after the season at the age of 73. Pees was the Falcons' defensive coordinator for the past two seasons after previously having the role with the New England Patriots (2006-2009), Baltimore Ravens (2012-2017) and Tennessee Titans (2018-2019). He'll be tasked with fixing a Falcons defense that allowed 22.7 points per game (23rd in NFL) and 362.1 yards per game (27th in NFL). The Falcons allowed 130.2 rushing yards per game in 2022, 23rd in the NFL. The 15 rushing touchdowns allowed was 17th in the NFL and the 4.4 yards per carry allowed was 18th. Nielsen has a history with Falcons general manager Terry Fontenot, who was in the Saints' front office when he was on the defensive coaching staff. New Orleans' defense had 281 sacks since the start of the 2017 season -- the second most in the NFL over that span -- finishing in the top 10 in sacks in five of the past six seasons. ATLskinjob, PokerSteve and tbhawksfan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrthoPTSD Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, jidady said: FWIW, Davenport earned a 76.8 grade from PFF for 2022, 75.0 in pass rush. That's #32 in the league, which means he's right on the cusp of low DE1/high DE2. I wouldn't hate him if we draft a stud for the other side. I heard that, he'd be an instant starter on this team PokerSteve and BDS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Williamb said: There are some here who wouldn't have "warm fuzzies" if Lombardi, Landry, Parcells, and Walsh were coaching the team. I withhold my opinion until I see field production. Guy has a decent resume and TF is familiar with his work. That's good enough for me and they basically didn't ask for our approval. This is a message board. Name one thing we've ever talked about that they've asked for our approval on? Might as well shut this place down if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Wow... this guy? Chitown2ATL_Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 This happened really quickly. Was this a forgone conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Welcome Nielsen!!!!! Let's scrub and delouse him before he enters Flowery Branch. Go Falcons!!! FTS!!! Emmitt, Chitown2ATL_Falcon, dyrtysouth2000 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Worst hire ever. I would rather have Ed Donnatell. marvinthemartian and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamb Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, FalconFanSince1969 said: This is a message board. Name one thing we've ever talked about that they've asked for our approval on? Might as well shut this place down if that's the case. I guess that's why you felt the need to respond Captain Obvious? That's why I posted my own thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 44 minutes ago, Swayzee said: He would have never even made the list. Comical how many are saying this is a great hire. Same thing happens when we sign some scrub off the streets, so there's that. Every great coach was a nobody at some time (not saying Nielsen will be). So there's that. Ghosts of Glanville, RetroRoq, DirtyBird757 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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