richardc Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 QB - I’m not “all in” on Ridder, but I’m definitely not “all in” on trading away picks and players for a “superstar.” I think AS has built (or is building) an offense that is a run first punishing offense. Superstar QB, not required, allowing talent to be added across the roster. I loved JJ, but that draft hurt us down the road. With how our Rush game evolved, I’m for letting Ridder show what he can do and add talent. Pass Rushers - I’m not sure how we could miss so badly on so many pass rushers via the draft and FA, but I hope we can get some hits. It’s been a long time since John Abraham (The Predator) was here. Cap Space - realistically, how many staters could we sign? I know the contract doesn’t count 100% year 1. Are we looking at signing 4-6 top players who count on the cap at about $10MM/year? Honest question, looking for input here, assuming we don’t spend it all on one player. O-Line - I would really like is to get a solid center and left guard. When I watch the games, I see these guys getting getting abused on pass blocking. What would a solid center and guard cost in FA? thx RetroRoq and dcfalcons 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieK Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 yw ShoNuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy 2.0 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (The Predator) lol sorry. ShoNuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Let’s see what Ridder can do. He got better each game and we all know Falcons would have made the playoffs if Ridder was named starter after week 10. Not loving any FA quarterbacks anyway. Jackson is great but he’d take away our ability to pay defenders and objectively after 5 seasons he’s never played a full schedule. Love him but he’s not going to last 2 years at the outside. We definitely need pass rush. That’s one of those areas where you just have to look at Power 5 starters. We can’t invest a season in their growth, we need someone who can reach now. No FCS project linebackers, please. and I hate to say it but we do need to look at a center. Dalman just snaps too wild. His block is good though. YungFalco, Doctor Kildare, Chitown2ATL_Falcon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 The Falcons have a foundation on offense except for 1 more receiver. Time to get the defense there as well. Probably won't be many, if any splash signing in FA , because they just wont hit the market. Expect solid guys. Not superstars. But none the less, foundational pieces. I get wanting upgrades on the OL, but that comes at a price. Whether its $ or picks, you still gotta pay. The OL was solid and dominant at times running the ball. Regardless, TF and AS need to at least get the defense more help. Period. It's time the Falcons flip the script on dumping numerous resources into the offense and making bad choices on defense. YungFalco, Stevo, Flyin' In DC and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 6 minutes ago, Killing Floor said: Let’s see what Ridder can do. He got better each game and we all know Falcons would have made the playoffs if Ridder was named starter after week 10. Not loving any FA quarterbacks anyway. Jackson is great but he’d take away our ability to pay defenders and objectively after 5 seasons he’s never played a full schedule. Love him but he’s not going to last 2 years at the outside. We definitely need pass rush. That’s one of those areas where you just have to look at Power 5 starters. We can’t invest a season in their growth, we need someone who can reach now. No FCS project linebackers, please. and I hate to say it but we do need to look at a center. Dalman just snaps too wild. His block is good though. They may look at Center, but Dalman will get another year. He wasn't the main issue on offense. Mister pudding and Killing Floor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I would be surprised if we signed more than 2 'top' players. I think this board is getting way out ahead of themselves. YungFalco, Sui_Generis, Kaptain Krazy and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, Lornoth said: I would be surprised if we signed more than 2 'top' players. I think this board is getting way out ahead of themselves. It's going to be solid, foundational players. Not splash FA signings. As TF would say, "guys that fit our ethos". Mid-Nite-Toker and Herr Doktor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 As far as the o-line goes, I’d like to see McGary kept around for at least a year on the tradition tag, Titans OG Nate Davis signed in free agency to take over LG, and Wisconsin C Joe Tippman drafted to compete with Dalman for the starting spot. FalconJim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, Sui_Generis said: It's going to be solid, foundational players. Not splash FA signings. As TF would say, "guys that fit our ethos". Like Watson😎. ChickenBiscuit, 1989Fan and FalconJim 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Look at how he wears his red helmet. I'm all in. YungFalco, FalconJim, ChickenBiscuit and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Jesus said: Look at how he wears his red helmet. I'm all in. What I wouldn’t give to see that every week. So **** fire. Flyin' In DC, Swayzee, FalconJim and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 22 minutes ago, Swayzee said: Like Watson😎. I'm hard pressed to believe that Blank was not the driving factor in that move. But if TF was, it was a slick way to tell Matt he wasn't the guy anymore, let him pick where he wanted to go, and fleece that team for a pick. All the while dumping cap and eating dead money when the team ripped the band aid off. Diesel_Bird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' In DC Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Do they get "solid" FA's at each level of D? Maybe a better DT and an Edge? LB and corner? Or do they build mostly from the lines outward? It should be a lot of fun seeing what AS/TF do with room to play YungFalco, FalconJim and ItsJustMe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Bird Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 19 minutes ago, Sui_Generis said: I'm hard pressed to believe that Blank was not the driving factor in that move. But if TF was, it was a slick way to tell Matt he wasn't the guy anymore, let him pick where he wanted to go, and fleece that team for a pick. All the while dumping cap and eating dead money when the team ripped the band aid off. It had to be done, I don’t care who’s choice it was FalconJim and Sui_Generis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Bird Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Im really hoping tyree Wilson is available at 8. He’s the only pass rusher I think has a lot of upside that high. Besides the obvious carter and Wilson FalconJim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Build both sides of the ball from inside out not the other way round. richardc, YungFalco and FalconJim 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 46 minutes ago, Sui_Generis said: I'm hard pressed to believe that Blank was not the driving factor in that move. But if TF was, it was a slick way to tell Matt he wasn't the guy anymore, let him pick where he wanted to go, and fleece that team for a pick. All the while dumping cap and eating dead money when the team ripped the band aid off. TF is a genius. FalconJim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 20 minutes ago, Swayzee said: TF is a genius. I will not claim that yet. He has been astute and detail oriented for sure. Now that he is out of the TD mess, from here on out..... This is his baby. For gooder or badder. Swayzee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Maybe 3 Free Agent signings, 4 tops. They have to think about McGary, AJT, and Lindstrom (although the latter may be structured in a way that saves cap space). Every level of the Defense needs improvement, and the DL needs drafted help AND free agent help. richardc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 This is the make or break year for this regime. TF and co have been good cleaning up the cap mess. But this is there year they can’t miss with picks or FAs without them and the team is still below average to middling it’s game over for them in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunchy Carter Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, Kaptain Krazy said: Maybe 3 Free Agent signings, 4 tops. They have to think about McGary, AJT, and Lindstrom (although the latter may be structured in a way that saves cap space). Every level of the Defense needs improvement, and the DL needs drafted help AND free agent help. What do you mean by the bolded portion of your post? Are you saying that Lindstrom is going to take a team friendly deal? Did you read something somewhere indicating that'd be the case? Just curious if that's what you meant and what you based it on. To my mind, he's about to be one of the highest paid guards in the NFL, but I'm 100% speculating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, Bunchy Carter said: What do you mean by the bolded portion of your post? Are you saying that Lindstrom is going to take a team friendly deal? Did you read something somewhere indicating that'd be the case? Just curious if that's what you meant and what you based it on. To my mind, he's about to be one of the highest paid guards in the NFL, but I'm 100% speculating. More of how the money would be spread out rather than the total. Agree with the idea that he deserves to be be paid, as he's been almost Fralic-like in his performance for the Falcons. Bunchy Carter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 10 hours ago, Flyin' In DC said: Do they get "solid" FA's at each level of D? Maybe a better DT and an Edge? LB and corner? Or do they build mostly from the lines outward? It should be a lot of fun seeing what AS/TF do with room to play As long as AS/TF is not handcuffed by making the Jackson move, that would be more influenced by Blank than themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runshoot Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 13 hours ago, richardc said: I loved JJ, but that draft hurt us down the road. Making a Qualifying statement about JJ means you are saying the JJ trade hurt us. Incorrect and flat out myopic. JJ helped us play in 2 NFCCG in 5 years with a SB appearance and had been hailed a sure HOF player. What "hurt us" was all the other picks we made which were horrible. Had nothing to do with JJ or the trade. Had Andrew Jackson, Akeem Dent, Peter Konz, L Holmes, M Goodman, S Maponga, Hageman, Shembo, Southward and any other draft pick "down that road" even been an average NFL starter, the Mike Smith ERA would have looked different via drafting. Instead, these draftees were either never starters or never should have been starters. Just terrible. TD stunk and stunk bad. JJ was one of the few we got right and the trade had nothing to do with "hurting us". falconfan4rmmiami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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