gazoo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Killing Floor said: Our secondary is still so bad that Grant looks OK. I hitter like Gardener-Johnson would make a high impact. I haven’t given up on Grant, and we don’t have that luxury in 2023 to any, but we do need to get another veteran capable starter to play alongside him. Mister pudding and Killing Floor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: ... Don't sign half a player in Yannick. .... Falcons desperately need that half though. Don't pay him like a full player, agreed, but would love to have a player with 10 sacks on the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcon36 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 We need to sell out for Da'ron Payne or Hargrave... 10+ sacks at the DT position would transform our defense, free up Grady and presuming we sign and draft an EDGE, suddenly we have a formidable defense in the front 7. I did a mock FA over on fanspeak just to see how far our cap space can actually go. I had about 25-30m left after this: ROSTER SIGNED PLAYERS Name Position Cap Hit Olamide Zaccheaus WR 2,960,000 Kaleb McGary OT 8,400,000 Rashaan Evans LB 1,500,000 D.J. Chark WR 6,650,000 Da'Ron Payne DL 9,000,000 Chauncey Gardner-Johnson S 7,500,000 Mecole Hardman WR 6,800,000 Garrett Bradbury C 8,050,000 David Edwards G 4,800,000 Tremaine Edmunds LB 9,450,000 Yannick Ngakoue EDGE 11,625,000 Justin Houston EDGE 6,000,000 Anthony Averett CB 4,400,000 Kenyan Drake RB 2,000,000 Hokies&Falcons, Killing Floor and YungFalco 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 43 minutes ago, falconidae said: Falcons desperately need that half though. Don't pay him like a full player, agreed, but would love to have a player with 10 sacks on the defense. Problem is he will likely get paid as a full time player. The Raiders gave him 13 mil a year. That price likely goes up this year as all prices do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando C. Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said: 1) Resign McGary 2) Daron Payne or Javon Hargrave 3) CGJ or Bates 4) Juju or Hardman 5) Long Jr or Edmunds 6) Yannick 7) Jamal Dean Add matt ioannidis he should be cheap and will be extremely productive in our system if we get a true NT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akod2017 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Don't resign mcgary cause we about to pay Lindstrom the farm. Franchise him. Draft his replacement this year or next. Still gotta be frugal Don't sign any free agent wide receiver because it's robbery. Don't sign half a player in Yannick. Agree with the rest Didn’t think about franchising McGary. That’s a great call. I love what the Braves do as far as 1 year prove it deals for vets. I would much rather over pay for short term deals. Goal is to build through the draft and not have contracts weighing us down. We have to change things up. This organization is the definition of mediocrity outside of one year since I have been alive. blizzard_falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 hours ago, TheRisen999 said: Jakobi Meyers New England Patriots · WR · Age: 26 Meyers is somewhere between a solid No. 2 receiver and a perfect No. 3, able to win on the inside and outside with crisp routes. He'd fit in any offense. Poona Ford Seattle Seahawks · DT · Age: 27 Ford is hitting free agency after a down year. He didn’t appear to fit in Pete Carroll’s new 3-4 scheme, but he’s shown a high level previously as a penetrator. Vonn Bell Cincinnati Bengals · S · Age: 28 A terrific free-agent signing by the Bengals three years ago, Bell is a tight end stopper. Kaleb McGary Atlanta Falcons · OT · Age: 28 Another player who significantly improved his value in 2022, McGary has developed into a quality starter at right tackle, especially in the running game. Arden Key Jacksonville Jaguars · Edge · Age: 27 When Key replaced an injured Travon Walker in the lineup, the Jaguars' pass rush improved. He is a perfect rotational piece for virtually any system. Some guys I'd be happy with that probably won't get market-setting contracts (Maybe barring Bell). TheRisen999 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Problem is he will likely get paid as a full time player. The Raiders gave him 13 mil a year. That price likely goes up this year as all prices do. Yeah, might have to bit the bullet and do that. He's only 27, sign him to nice 2-3 year deal with a nice signing bonus and hopefully, lots of incentives and spread the hits out. falconzfan4ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconzfan4ever Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Dalvin Tomlinson + Yannick if we want a 2-3 year deal or Houston/Ingram on a 1 year deal for the Front 7 Nate Davis at LG Bonus points for an upgrade at ILB, maybe a guy like Germaine Pratt. A safety would be nice too, but I think the young guys we have back there improve a fair amount with better play up front, so that's farther down my personal priority list. Sets us up nicely to go BPA in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Coaches and GMs tend to pursue players in free agency that they're more familiar with (although not always, of course). But with that in mind, some guys on this list stand out for their connections to our coaching staff or to our front office: OG Nate Davis ED Marcus Davenport DL Da'ron Payne LB David Long CB/S Chauncey Gardner-Johnson S Von Bell Also, not on this list: QB Chase Daniel (if they want a vet backup for Ridder who's essentially an extra QB coach) RB David Montgomery C/G Wes Schweitzer ED DeMarcus Walker DL David Onyemata LB Kaden Elliss rounz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Poona Ford. Solid tackle and finds the ball too. Won’t go crazy expensive. Let’s go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddies 3rd Cuz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, falconidae said: I'd love to have an older edge rusher who can come in for a year or two and be a pass rush specialist , like Houston did for the Chiefs this year. He could also teach the kids on the team about pass rush. Not talking about breaking the bank for him, but that'd be a great addition to the defense As for the list, get Grady some help, an edge rusher and another piece for the defense - say, a safety or corner. So 3 solid pieces on Defense, maybe an Olineman or WR on offense. Get the rest in the draft. Yup but not over pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Don't resign mcgary cause we about to pay Lindstrom the farm. Franchise him. Draft his replacement this year or next. Still gotta be frugal Don't sign any free agent wide receiver because it's robbery. Don't sign half a player in Yannick. Agree with the rest Half a player that gets 8-10 sacks yearly no matter who he plays with. I will sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, youngbloodz said: Half a player that gets 8-10 sacks yearly no matter who he plays with. I will sign him Sacks are simply one play. A tackle for a loss in the running game is the exact same thing. I'd rather a 6 sack guy that doesn't completely get dominated in the running game. Mid-Nite-Toker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 21 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Sacks are simply one play. A tackle for a loss in the running game is the exact same thing. I'd rather a 6 sack guy that doesn't completely get dominated in the running game. That can be taught. Rushing the passer can’t. If Yannick was on the smaller side i would understand your point sorta. But rushing the passer is the name of the game in the NFL. Freddies 3rd Cuz and YungFalco 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 22 minutes ago, youngbloodz said: That can be taught. Rushing the passer can’t. If Yannick was on the smaller side i would understand your point sorta. But rushing the passer is the name of the game in the NFL. It can't be taught to him. That is why a 10 sack a year guy is bouncing around the league. It's not that he's bad against the run, it's that he's god awful. He was traded for Rock Ya Sin. A very average CB. That is not what normal 10 sack a year guys go for. His PFF grade against the run was 28.8 almost dead last out of any DE graded. He only had 28 combined tackles from the DE position. Also near dead last and thats counting the 10 sacks....so 18 other tackles for the entire year. That is not an impact player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 23 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: It can't be taught to him. That is why a 10 sack a year guy is bouncing around the league. It's not that he's bad against the run, it's that he's god awful. He was traded for Rock Ya Sin. A very average CB. That is not what normal 10 sack a year guys go for. His PFF grade against the run was 28.8 almost dead last out of any DE graded. He only had 28 combined tackles from the DE position. Also near dead last and thats counting the 10 sacks....so 18 other tackles for the entire year. That is not an impact player. If I was a GM I would sign him. But alas I’m not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowTimePrimeTime Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 hours ago, FalconDawg28 said: Here’s a list of players that I have seen so far that I think are worth taking a look at. Daron Payne DT Jesse Bates SS CJ Gardner Johnson SS Tremaine Edmunds LB Yannick Ngakoue EDGE Javon Hargrove DT Dalvin Tomlinson NT TJ Edwards LB Kaleb McGary RT Isaiah Wynn OT Mike McGlinchey RT Marcus Davenport EDGE Tony Pollard HB Chuma Edoga OG Arden Key EDGE Rasheem Green DE Taylor Rapp FS/SS Dre’Mont Jones DE Ethan Pocic OC Germaine Pratt LB Realistic targets of the 20 you have listed we could get 6 and a good draft means playoffs in my eyes. Especially if we could get Bates,Payne, and Nguaoke. FalconDawg28 and YungFalco 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRoq Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Rank 39 Nate Davis Tennessee Titans · OG · Age: 26 Arguably the Titans' most-reliable lineman, Davis should easily find a starting job. I'll just drop this here and let you guys connect the dots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/24/2023 at 7:23 AM, Herr Doktor said: There is help here. But, many of these guys are older, and will get overpaid. Our luck is the wheels finally fall off any of the guys we sign. Yep. Our FA's are usually SOTH. Suddenly Over The Hill. 😬😂 Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/24/2023 at 9:04 AM, dapanch420 said: Lets sign them all Seems like a good plan. Only, I'm not sure if the NFL will allow us to have both Youghoe and Rock Ya-Sin on our roster because of the obvious chance of scandal. 😂 theProf and dapanch420 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjmw084 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) Dalvin Tomlinson NT/DT/DE Zach Allen DE/DT (5T/3T) Jesse Bates S Samson Ebukam Edge Germaine Pratt LB Nate Davis LG Gardner Minshew QB Draft CB/OL depth/DL depth /WR/RB Edited January 25 by Bigjmw084 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Can we get a defensive coordinator first?? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I go after Payne and a staunch cb for the splash signing. Add J. Houston and a solid linebacker. YungFalco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddies 3rd Cuz Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2023 at 5:51 PM, youngbloodz said: That can be taught. Rushing the passer can’t. If Yannick was on the smaller side i would understand your point sorta. But rushing the passer is the name of the game in the NFL. Exactly we need a pass rusher to get off the field on 3rd down. That’s been a problem here so long some of our fans just accept it and automatically blame pass coverage. Yeah right but not for humpteen yrs. We’re not winning big until we find a pass rush. How’d that work out for the Eagles this year? Give me a pass rush please. YungFalco and youngbloodz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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