Popular Post Rings Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 That’s beautiful, instead of kicking the can down the road, absorbed it into a season that’s already over! Once Mariota is off the books that’s another 12mil as well. slick0ne, Mister pudding, Boise Falcon Fan and 48 others 38 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Knew this was coming. His 2023 cap hit was like 34 million. FalconJim, labradford and Herr Doktor 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRoq Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Terry doing Terry things Doctor Kildare, Rings, PokerSteve and 10 others 11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rings Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, celtiksage said: Knew this was coming. His 2023 cap hit was like 34 million. Ya I knew they would change it, I just assumed they would move it to later years like normal, this is great news cause it absorbs it into 2022 instead. Marco102, Hashbrown3, FalconJim and 8 others 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoLedgerS Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 fontenot the money man FalconJim, PokerSteve, TheRisen999 and 6 others 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 We actually (and smartly) moved his money up to use the cap we have this year to take down some of his cap hit in future years .... We have a boatload of money but we bout to spend The Don™, Rings, Drew4719 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfalconsp Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Awesome. Didn't think they'd kick the can considering the money we have, but did not know this was a possibility. Great move. celtiksage, Marco102, TheRisen999 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEADCOACH Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 14 minutes ago, Rings said: That’s beautiful, instead of kicking the can down the road, absorbed it into a season that’s already over! Once Mariota is off the books that’s another 12mil as well. Terry and Arthur are about to go shopping. Mid-Nite-Toker, celtiksage, Emmitt and 20 others 4 2 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybirds233 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 A reminder that no team in this division had a winning record and that the Falcons currently have $73M more in space than the 2nd closest team (the Panthers). Herr Doktor, ATLskinjob, mountain_jim3 and 11 others 6 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMERO Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Mid-Nite-Toker, rounz, PokerSteve and 11 others 4 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Smart! Let’s Go! tbhawksfan and TheRisen999 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Doesn’t unused cap roll over to the next season anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Quote "Atlanta is poised to have ~$70M in cap space this offseason." Should be about $84M when Mariotta is cut right? Anyway, seems like a smart maneuver by Terry not to kick the restructure down the road. MilleniumFalcon and Herr Doktor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood all the way! Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Terry with a big brain move. FalconJim, Drew4719, TheRisen999 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Bunchy Carter, rounz, DonDaLuvMaker and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa_Falcon_Fan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Wow, when is the last time you can remember a Falcons GM making a move like this to SAVE money in the future instead of kicking the can down the road?! What a smart move, use up the existing cap space from 2022 to save money in 2023 and beyond. If TF and AS continue to be as prudent with money, personnel decisions, draft, and coaching decisions we're going to be in for a really great run the next few years and hopefully beyond. primetime, TheRisen999, rounz and 8 others 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 33 minutes ago, Falcanuck said: Doesn’t unused cap roll over to the next season anyway? From what I have gathered in the past seeing how cap has rolled over. I think it's some sort of calculation so maybe they end up getting more back this way because from what I've seen in the past usually teams don't roll over 100% that usually get somewhere between 80 to 90%. if my memory serves maybe they can do this and still roll over a small portion if we have any remaining PokerSteve and wuskillzz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I'm assuming there's an advantage to doing it this way, although I don't know enough about the cap rules to know what it is. [ and don't want to] . Assuming that 4.2 comes off of Jake's cap hit, that takes him down to 29.7 mil. If the falcons wanted to take it down even further, they could convert say 10 mil into bonus, which would take it down to 22.2 mil, with cap hits of 20.5 mil for the last 3 years of his contract. They could also just roll with that 29.7 mil in 23 and have Matthews for 18 mil a season in 24, 25 & 26. Either way, the LT position is stable and affordable the next few years. They also have room to maneuver the cap with his contract. Marco102, JDaveG and rounz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmitt Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 17 minutes ago, Pa_Falcon_Fan said: Wow, when is the last time you can remember a Falcons GM making a move like this to SAVE money in the future instead of kicking the can down the road?! What a smart move, use up the existing cap space from 2022 to save money in 2023 and beyond. If TF and AS continue to be as prudent with money, personnel decisions, draft, and coaching decisions we're going to be in for a really great run the next few years and hopefully beyond. Exactly what I was thinking. TF is playing chess where TD was playing tic-tac-toe. rounz, Pa_Falcon_Fan, Lowndesfalc and 4 others 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, falconidae said: I'm assuming there's an advantage to doing it this way, although I don't know enough about the cap rules to know what it is. [ and don't want to] . Assuming that 4.2 comes off of Jake's cap hit, that takes him down to 29.7 mil. If the falcons wanted to take it down even further, they could convert say 10 mil into bonus, which would take it down to 22.2 mil, with cap hits of 20.5 mil for the last 3 years of his contract. They could also just roll with that 29.7 mil in 23 and have Matthews for 18 mil a season in 24, 25 & 26. Either way, the LT position is stable and affordable the next few years. They also have room to maneuver the cap with his contract. This seems to be the best way to approach it as I see it (eat the 29.7 and then take the 18 per for the remaining seasons on the contract). More flexibility, and we have cap space going forward already, so there is no need to do anything to create more cap space in 2023. We already have a ton in 2023, and we are going to sign players to longer term contracts that will reduce cap space in future years, so there is no need to borrow for the future next season. gtech1, Hashbrown3, Marco102 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa_Falcon_Fan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Looking at Spotrac, it looks like this makes it easier for us to move on from Jake in 2024 and beyond if he starts to decline. They haven't updated his numbers yet, but cutting his $10M roster bonus to $3M by paying $7M of it in 2022, means his bonus cap hit drops from $2.5M a season over the next 4 seasons to $750K. So it reduces dead cap money for cutting him to: 2024 - $2.5M in dead money 2025 - $1.5M in dead money 2026 - $750K This also reduces his cap hit per year by $1.75M , so $16.25M vs $18M. Hashbrown3, Drew4719, Kaptain Krazy and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Sider Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Rings said: Ya I knew they would change it, I just assumed they would move it to later years like normal, this is great news cause it absorbs it into 2022 instead. Exactly. None of us had any idea that they were going to do what they just did. Rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, Pa_Falcon_Fan said: Looking at Spotrac, it looks like this makes it easier for us to move on from Jake in 2024 and beyond if he starts to decline. They haven't updated his numbers yet, but cutting his $10M roster bonus to $3M by paying $7M of it in 2022, means his bonus cap hit drops from $2.5M a season over the next 4 seasons to $750K. So it reduces dead cap money for cutting him to: 2024 - $2.5M in dead money 2025 - $1.5M in dead money 2026 - $750K This also reduces his cap hit per year by $1.75M , so $16.25M vs $18M. I don't think that's correct. The 2.5 mil is bonus that was already prorated. I'm thinking that the bonus they paid him this year is from the roster bonus of 10.5 mil. We'll see when the numbers get posted. Still, even if the 2.5 stays, it's pretty cheap to cut him if they need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 So I'm guessing Matthew's is happy that he just got a fat check for a 7mil bonus? Tribal Chief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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