bird_brain Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 This is my ideal off-season. Free agency: Daron Payne, Yannick Ngakoue, Jesse Bates, and Allen Lazard. 1st Rd-joey Porter jr 2nd Rd-WR 3rd Rd-ILB 4th Rd-DT 4th Rd-safety 5th Rd-center 6th Rd-GUARD 6th Rd-RT 7th Rd-running back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I'll never understand the ngakoue hype. Dudes half a football player that gets destroyed in the run game. No thanks considering what he will cost most likely Spongebob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1st Rd-BPA 2nd Rd-BPA 3rd Rd-BPA 4th Rd-BPA 4th Rd-BPA 5th Rd-BPA 6th Rd-BPA 6th Rd-BPA 7th Rd-BPA CADirtyBird, Knight of God, jidady and 6 others 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Definitely yes to Daron Payne Knight of God, CADirtyBird and PokerSteve 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 44 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I'll never understand the ngakoue hype. Dudes half a football player that gets destroyed in the run game. No thanks considering what he will cost most likely 1 year less as a pro, twice as many sacks as Grady. I know that’s not the whole story. But that is why the hype. It’s understandable. I know he also gets burned, not arguing with ya. Just that is why he gets attention. He’s good for 10 sacks a season lately. PokerSteve and Diesel_Bird 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 23 minutes ago, Killing Floor said: 1 year less as a pro, twice as many sacks as Grady. I know that’s not the whole story. But that is why the hype. It’s understandable. I know he also gets burned, not arguing with ya. Just that is why he gets attention. He’s good for 10 sacks a season lately. Edge rushers can't be compared to DTs Killing Floor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, hjerry said: Edge rushers can't be compared to DTs That’s true. And nobody on the Falcons for over a decade can be compared to an edge. So I grabbed the obvious sack leader to cast it. Sponge, PokerSteve, hjerry and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 9 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I'll never understand the ngakoue hype. Dudes half a football player that gets destroyed in the run game. No thanks considering what he will cost most likely And for good reason…he’s one of the best in the business on something we absolutely suck at. falconidae, Killing Floor and PokerSteve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Bird Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: I'll never understand the ngakoue hype. Dudes half a football player that gets destroyed in the run game. No thanks considering what he will cost most likely He’s had productive seasons every year. Killing Floor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 hours ago, Diesel_Bird said: He’s had productive seasons every year. 10 sacks over the course of 800 snaps isn't very productive when you do nothing else. There's a reason he's on a different team every year Summerhill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 8 hours ago, hjerry said: 1st Rd-BPA 2nd Rd-BPA 3rd Rd-BPA 4th Rd-BPA 4th Rd-BPA 5th Rd-BPA 6th Rd-BPA 6th Rd-BPA 7th Rd-BPA What if BPA happens to be QB or WR every round? 😮 PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: 10 sacks over the course of 800 snaps isn't very productive when you do nothing else. There's a reason he's on a different team every year Well, only 4 other players ever have been as consistent with sacks over their career, tallying 8+ in their first 8 seasons. Those players: Reggie White, Demarcus Ware, Derrick Thomas and Aaron Donald. Not at all saying he is as good as those guys, but he is in elite company for pass rush. He is weak in run defense but better than any pass rusher this team has had since Abraham. That’s why I am guessing they will kick the tires. Him being on 4 teams in 4 seasons does give me pause though. Diesel_Bird, PokerSteve and Vandy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 7 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: Well, only 4 other players ever have been as consistent with sacks over their career, tallying 8+ in their first 8 seasons. Those players: Reggie White, Demarcus Ware, Derrick Thomas and Aaron Donald. Not at all saying he is as good as those guys, but he is in elite company for pass rush. He is weak in run defense but better than any pass rusher this team has had since Abraham. That’s why I am guessing they will kick the tires. Him being on 4 teams in 4 seasons does give me pause though. It's not even that he's weak in run defense, I could live with that, it's that he is terrible at it. He has 29 combined tackles this season on over 800 snaps. I don't know how that's even possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, 1989Fan said: What if BPA happens to be QB or WR every round? 😮 That would never happen QBs are rarely BPA. They're almost always overdraft especially in the first round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 13 hours ago, bird_brain said: This is my ideal off-season. Free agency: Daron Payne, Yannick Ngakoue, Jesse Bates, and Allen Lazard. 1st Rd-joey Porter jr 2nd Rd-WR 3rd Rd-ILB 4th Rd-DT 4th Rd-safety 5th Rd-center 6th Rd-GUARD 6th Rd-RT 7th Rd-running back I like the #1 CB with our first pick. But I want Nolan Smith in the 2nd Rd (or possibly trade back up into the 1st rd). He would be a top 10 player imo if he didn't get hurt at the beginning of the season. 1989Fan and bossFALCON™ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 We already have a sixth round Guard on our Practice Squad. In all honesty, line help will be in FA. If we do draft lineman, it needs to be in the first four rounds. If the NFL has proven nothing else, its that solid WR and Running backs can be found in lower rounds. The college game churns out able players. We need an OT in round two, no later. First round should be the best defensive player on deck. FA should be resign our key folks, nail a good guard, get a NT, and some kind of pass rush specialist. OT may be a FA need if McGary walks. I think he does. PokerSteve and Falconus Prime 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Seems like every time someone brings up a game changing, league leader in any position half the board tells you why they suck and why we wouldn’t want them and then we read about the next big D2 player we’re scouting. Game changers are called that because they change games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhawksfan Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/6/2023 at 11:31 AM, 1989Fan said: What if BPA happens to be QB or WR every round? 😮 Don't worry BPA is a myth. There is always a margin of error when comparing players. BPA is also one of the lasiest clichés used on this board. TAFT #1: Who do you like at #5? TAFT #2: BPA TAFT #1: What position does he play? PokerSteve and Killing Floor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Jalen Mayfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 26 minutes ago, tbhawksfan said: Don't worry BPA is a myth. There is always a margin of error when comparing players. BPA is also one of the lasiest clichés used on this board. TAFT #1: Who do you like at #5? TAFT #2: BPA TAFT #1: What position does he play? BPA just means that you take the more talented player regardless of position. You don't decide ahead of time that you have to take DL with your first pick because it's a higher perceived position of need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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