CraigSmackDaddy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 14 minutes ago, ShmevinShmarris said: 4 years $36M Frontload the contract so we can cut ties in season 3 or 4 if we find an upgrade He’s gonna want and get more than that most likely. My guess is he’ll be looking for around 12-13 million a year and I think we could franchise him for 15. I’d franchise him if it were me and see if he has another good season before giving him a long term contract. ShmevinShmarris and primetime 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, CraigSmackDaddy said: He’s gonna want and get more than that most likely. My guess is he’ll be looking for around 12-13 million a year and I think we could franchise him for 15. I’d franchise him if it were me and see if he has another good season before giving him a long term contract. Per former NFL & NBA agent/current CBS Sports writer & cap expert, Joel Corry... Here are the projected non-exclusive franchise tag amounts for 2023:Quarterback: $32.45MMRunning back: $10.1MMWide receiver: $19.76MMTight end: $11.36MMOffensive line: $18.26MMDefensive end: $19.74MMDefensive tackle: $18.95MMLinebacker: $20.95MMCornerback: $18.16MMSafety: $14.47MMKicker/punter: $5.39MM These aren't set in stone, but Corry should have a pretty good idea of what to expect, so it may be more than $15M to tag McGary. PokerSteve and Diesel_Bird 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImElPresidente Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I would say that resigning McGary to a long term deal would hurt the team moving forward..... Let me explain. Jake Matthews cap hit next year will be $33 Million dollars so were basically locked on to Matthews until 2024 on top of that we desperately need to extend/resign Lindstrom next year!! I would much rather let McGary walk and focus on giving Lindstrom whatever money he will demand next year, and we all know he will probably be the highest paid O-Line player next year! Putting McGary on the franchise tag could be a good option but the Jags put a franchise tag on Cam Robinson last year for $16 Million and that number is probably going even higher this year. If you franchise tag him it would basically be just kicking the can down the road next year and having the same thing happen with having to resign him, what makes that bad is Lindstrom will need a new contract next year as well. I agree that McGary is having a wonderful year this year but is resigning him worth potentially losing Lindstrom?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 23 minutes ago, k-train said: Per former NFL & NBA agent/current CBS Sports writer & cap expert, Joel Corry... Here are the projected non-exclusive franchise tag amounts for 2023:Quarterback: $32.45MMRunning back: $10.1MMWide receiver: $19.76MMTight end: $11.36MMOffensive line: $18.26MMDefensive end: $19.74MMDefensive tackle: $18.95MMLinebacker: $20.95MMCornerback: $18.16MMSafety: $14.47MMKicker/punter: $5.39MM These aren't set in stone, but Corry should have a pretty good idea of what to expect, so it may be more than $15M to tag McGary. There is no way I would tag Mcgary at 18.25M. raysnill1, UnrealfalcoN, ShoNuff and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoNuff Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Aluminafalcon said: Price determines everything. Without knowing market I think 7-10 million a year for 3 years is fair. That’s similar to what gage got last year and I would rate mcgary contributions this year similarly to gages last year I respect what everyone is saying in regards to maintaining continuity in the OL. However, McGary's play for 4 years overall is not all that great. Therefore, if the Falcons resign him, I am on the @Aluminafalcon and @ShmevinShmarris bandwagon in giving McGary no more than $10M a year. Right now, the Falcons has to sign about 13 free agents and be under the salary cap. Spotrac is currently predicting the Falcons having short of $69M in cap space. Not sure if it would be a good idea to use $15M-$18M of your cap space for an overall average-at-best Right Tackle. With HC Arthur Smith stating the team's highest priority if upgrading the pass rush, along with GM Terry Fontenot stating a while back that he is not breaking the bank chasing free agents, I just wonder how the Falcons will address the off-season. Diesel_Bird and ShmevinShmarris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoNuff Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 9 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: There is no way I would tag Mcgary at 18.25M. ....Amen....say it again..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Saw McGary leaving the Benz the other day after the game. Looked like he had Lindstrom with him too and another guy in the backseat. I’d say that guy has built a strong bond with his unit mates. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminafalcon Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: There is no way I would tag Mcgary at 18.25M. No kidding. Yes he has been elite run blocking but he still is below average pass protection. I just don’t see a rt that has difficulty pass blocking being a big commodity. He is really only attractive to a team that plans to throw less than 30 times a game. So San Fran, bears ,us maybe browns? Anyways point is the list isn’t long and I don’t think any of them will over pay for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, ShmevinShmarris said: 4 years $36M Frontload the contract so we can cut ties in season 3 or 4 if we find an upgrade Zero chance he takes that offer. None. If he does, I'm sending you a gift basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, Butudontseeme™ said: Saw McGary leaving the Benz the other day after the game. Looked like he had Lindstrom with him too and another guy in the backseat. I’d say that guy has built a strong bond with his unit mates. That's one of the reasons I believe AS and TF will spend what they need to spend to keep McGary with the team. It takes time to get that tight bond established, but it's worth a little dip in individual blocking strengths to keep that together. McGary's pass blocking is improving and you rarely have to hold your blocks for long in Smith's scheme the few times you do pass. It might pinch some to pay McGary and Lindstrom both this off-season, but the alternative is a hole at RG that will have to be filled by somebody. That new person will probably be pricey and won't have the rapport with the other guys on our OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 23 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: There is no way I would tag Mcgary at 18.25M. Not sure I would either, but it certainly is better than a long term deal and he winds up sucking. Really depends on if they like him, but I certainly hear what you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The Best Offensive Lines are the ones that stay intact and together for many years. That's why the Best Offensive Lines historically are built mostly from blue-collar type players that just go hard every play to the whistle (and beyond) and play together and build chemistry. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, FentayeJones said: I wouldn't have a problem extending Kaleb as long as it's not one of those backloaded Dimitroff extensions that's hard to get out of. 3 year deal most of the money up front, maybe a team option for the third year. Similar to Grady's deal. It's all about the structure. Yeah even Grady's extension at the beginning of the year was a 3 yr 50 million deal that we can get out of in 2024 with little cap ramifications. Even his was basically a two year deal. I can see a similarly structured deal for McGary. Win win for both parties. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, FentayeJones said: There is no way I would tag Mcgary at 18.25M. Yeah and when Mayfield or some other hobo is whiffing all game and ruining the game in place of McGary you will be complaining. But hey we saved a few dollars. Tag him all day long if they cannot come to a fair 3-4 year deal around 12-15m annually. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Bird Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Tricky situation. No way you give him the franchise tag at 18 mil. If he gets a crazy offer from somewhere else, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, PokerSteve said: That's one of the reasons I believe AS and TF will spend what they need to spend to keep McGary with the team. It takes time to get that tight bond established, but it's worth a little dip in individual blocking strengths to keep that together. McGary's pass blocking is improving and you rarely have to hold your blocks for long in Smith's scheme the few times you do pass. It might pinch some to pay McGary and Lindstrom both this off-season, but the alternative is a hole at RG that will have to be filled by somebody. That new person will probably be pricey and won't have the rapport with the other guys on our OL. I think that chemistry is often dismissed on o line but we hear over and over from players and coaches how important it is. On top of that, McGary is a top shelf run blocker and that should be the identity period. You have an emerging star at RB and your o line is playing at a high level in the run game. Don’t need to mess that up. run game, and defense. Hitting in Ridder would be awesome but smash mouth football is much more sustainable than praying you hit on a superstar QB. PokerSteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, ShoNuff said: ....Amen....say it again..... Again! or was I supposed to say… Who’s the Master? ShoNuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanadonis Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 He has improved a lot this year. His shape is a lot better, and he is understanding the offense more. I would like to keep him but I wouldn't get in a bidding war for him. We need a defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, FentayeJones said: There is no way I would tag Mcgary at 18.25M. Yeah, I would throw McGrary in the FA pool of Tackles and see which one we want and the one that wants to play here. Which probably will mean we are moving on from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 hours ago, Atlantafan21 said: The most likely scenario is probably a franchise tag to see if he can do it again. It's hard to see a franchise tag... That's around 18.2 mil for the year.... Normally that number or more is the guys new number for his new contract example ... Cam Robinson was franchised (16.6 mil) but his contract extension was for 3 year for 54 mil (18 mil a year) ... David Njoku was franchised (10.9 mil) but his extension 4 year for 56 mil (14 mil a year) I think we try our hardest to resign him but I would low-key be shocked if we franchise tag him ... Transitional may be an option but I think we try to have him signed before FA Vandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 14 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Yeah and when Mayfield or some other hobo is whiffing all game and ruining the game in place of McGary you will be complaining. But hey we saved a few dollars. Tag him all day long if they cannot come to a fair 3-4 year deal around 12-15m annually. If you are willing to give McGary almost 20M guaranteed next season on a franchise tag then you are a fool. That's 1/4th of the teams cap space next year dedicated to one average player. Ezekiel 25:17, ShoNuff and Aluminafalcon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isproab Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 While I wish McGary was better in pass protection, he has done his job in the run game. Continuity of an offensive line is huge. I would hate to let him go then lose that. Our run game is top of the NFL. If he walks, you have to replace him with a free agent or fairly high draft pick. There is no guarantee that whomever you bring in will be an upgrade. ShoNuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: If you are willing to give McGary almost 20M guaranteed next season on a franchise tag then you are a fool. That's 1/4th of the teams cap space next year dedicated to one average player. Extending Lindstrom and cutting Mariota will clear 17.5m so for 1m out of our cap space we currently are set to have I keep my line together another season and allow McGary to prove his good season this year was not a fluke. you’re right though. Let’s roll the dice and pray whoever fills in is good. What could go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 hours ago, 1989Fan said: Thankfully McGary doesn’t have back & knee injury issues like Baker did (dating back to his USC days). McGary also doesn’t have 32 1/2” arms. We can argue is he a good enough pass blocker to get a nice deal, but his issues are different than Bakers. edit: his arms aren’t really much longer so never mind that…thanks GTech1 Not really. Most FA rankings have McGary right up there with Conklin actually. (Which surprised me) doesn't he have a heart condition thingy though??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Swayzee said: Zero chance he takes that offer. None. If he does, I'm sending you a gift basket. I have to say I am all for the new avatar THIS time..... Vandy and ShoNuff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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