since68andcounting Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I know it's a contract year and you often can't trust the performance will be consistent going forward. I know he really needs help with his pass blocking. But the guy is really starting to assert his personality. He's developed a "Harvey Dahlish" nastiness that is really making us a force in the run game. I say work on the weaknesses, and resign him. Artys Arryn, TheRisen999, Spongebob and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The most likely scenario is probably a franchise tag to see if he can do it again. Drunken Minotaur Zebra, PokerSteve, The Don™ and 5 others 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Sam Baker approves this message! ItsJustMe, PokerSteve, papachaz and 7 others 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcon36 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I don't disagree with this necessarily BUT there's a decent amount of RTs hitting the market that may be upgrades: George Fant Mike McGlinchey Billy Turner JaWuan James Jawaan Taylor David Quessenberry If we can get one of those, would yall consider that an upgrade? Knight of God, Ezekiel 25:17, Freddies 3rd Cuz and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGaBoy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Keep him. He is getting better and we have many upgrades to complete. This is a rebuild. There will be so many new players next spring, each requiring training, coaching, conditioning, and analysis, that adding anyone unnecessary to the starting lineup dilutes the Falcons efforts to get ready for a 2023 season. I am not suggesting we not look for an upgrade, but while we do that, resign McGary. We need a few guys who know what is going on. Next season, I think we will have 3 new starting receivers, 1 new TE, a new starting LG, a new starting center, competition at QB, and 1 new RB. The coaches and trainers will have their hands full. Freddies 3rd Cuz, Spongebob, PokerSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfalconsp Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, NorthGaBoy said: Keep him. He is getting better and we have many upgrades to complete. This is a rebuild. There will be so many new players next spring, each requiring training, coaching, conditioning, and analysis, that adding anyone unnecessary to the starting lineup dilutes the Falcons efforts to get ready for a 2023 season. I am not suggesting we not look for an upgrade, but while we do that, resign McGary. We need a few guys who know what is going on. Next season, I think we will have 3 new starting receivers, 1 new TE, a new starting LG, a new starting center, competition at QB, and 1 new RB. The coaches and trainers will have their hands full. Yeah he is a no-brainer re-sign to me. He has chemistry with Lindstrom, knows the offense, and has shown enough improvement this year for me to be comfortable with him coming back. Drew4719, brewman and PokerSteve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewman Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 We can't afford to lose any draft capital in trading for a RT or as compensation for a FA, so unless whomever we sign is a significant upgrade over McGary we should resign him. One thing we'll have next year is the salary cap room to sign him unless another team just money whips him. Freddies 3rd Cuz and vitaman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Franchise....see if he holds up passing more next year Swayzee, Spongebob, papachaz and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 30 minutes ago, Swayzee said: Sam Baker approves this message! Thankfully McGary doesn’t have back & knee injury issues like Baker did (dating back to his USC days). McGary also doesn’t have 32 1/2” arms. We can argue is he a good enough pass blocker to get a nice deal, but his issues are different than Bakers. edit: his arms aren’t really much longer so never mind that…thanks GTech1 29 minutes ago, ATLFalcon36 said: I don't disagree with this necessarily BUT there's a decent amount of RTs hitting the market that may be upgrades: George Fant Mike McGlinchey Billy Turner JaWuan James Jawaan Taylor David Quessenberry If we can get one of those, would yall consider that an upgrade? Not really. Most FA rankings have McGary right up there with Conklin actually. (Which surprised me) FalconDawg28 and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtech1 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: Thankfully McGary doesn’t have back & knee injury issues like Baker did (dating back to his USC days). McGary also doesn’t have 32 1/2” arms. We can argue is he a good enough pass blocker to get a nice deal, but his issues are different than Bakers. Not really. Most FA rankings have McGary right up there with Conklin actually. (Which surprised me) He doesn't have 32 1/2 inch arms. He has 32 7/8 inch arms. Lol PokerSteve, UnrealfalcoN, Spongebob and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, gtech1 said: He doesn't have 32 1/2 inch arms. He has 32 7/8 inch arms. Lol Well ****, that will teach me to not do my research first. 😂 not sure why I believed McGary was more of a knuckle dragger than that. Ima go make an edit to that one lol. gtech1, PokerSteve, Spongebob and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 21 minutes ago, 1989Fan said: Well ****, that will teach me to not do my research first. 😂 not sure why I believed McGary was more of a knuckle dragger than that. Ima go make an edit to that one lol. I thought he was as well...lol. Anyway, think tagging him is by far the best option if they decide to keep him in the fold. 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongebob Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Line chemistry is important. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Resign him isproab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swayzee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 25 minutes ago, gtech1 said: He doesn't have 32 1/2 inch arms. He has 32 7/8 inch arms. Lol every 3/8" counts..."insert joke here" PokerSteve and 1989Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybirds233 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Spotrac has his market value nearly equal to what the projected franchise tag is for RTs in 2023. Don't get tied to him - tag him and see if he plays well enough for a long-term deal. k-train 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMSVILLE GYM Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Ahhh...... I remember it like it was just last offseason when many wanted his head on a platter. My how times change. I love nostalgia!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 It boils down to money and interest from other teams. Do we want to waste time getting in a bidding war with some other team, or make a decisive move to a player the coaching staff wants? McGary has played decently this year in the run game. The passing game he is still mostly dicey. For me, I would rather let someone else overpay if they come calling and we strike out and get the guy we want. Id rather we big money a **** guard. PokerSteve, ShoNuff and Swayzee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, ATLFalcon36 said: I don't disagree with this necessarily BUT there's a decent amount of RTs hitting the market that may be upgrades: George Fant Mike McGlinchey Billy Turner JaWuan James Jawaan Taylor David Quessenberry If we can get one of those, would yall consider that an upgrade? Maybe Mike McGlinchey but quality starters in the trenches are going to be expensive. The Falcons can only afford so many huge deals. A couple of big name signings in addition to huge contract extensions and most of the cap space will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I'm hesitant on a long term deal for him. I'm always wary of guys performing well in a contract year and being average before that. To me, he's still suspect in pass blocking which is what we'll be doing more of next year. TD gave contracts out like candy and paid for it several times. If AS and Ledford and their schemes are that good (so far their run schemes are great), theoretically, we should be able to groom another guy there fairly quick. Run blockers are easier to find than pass blockers and McGary still struggles with speed off the edge. If anything, we franchise him or offer him a team friendly deal but still fair value where he can be cut after a couple years with little ramifications. So basically most of the money up front when we actually have space to work with. It's one of the most common NFL contracts. Herr Doktor and ShoNuff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I wouldn't have a problem extending Kaleb as long as it's not one of those backloaded Dimitroff extensions that's hard to get out of. 3 year deal most of the money up front, maybe a team option for the third year. Similar to Grady's deal. It's all about the structure. Bigjmw084 and The Don™ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Swayzee said: every 3/8" counts..."insert joke here" That's what she said.... at the mole removal clinic. 😝 ShoNuff and Swayzee 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjmw084 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Something along the lines of 3yr 48mill 10 mill signing bonus 11-13 mill toward the cap The Don™ and PokerSteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconBlood23 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Its a no from me as his pass blocking hasnt improved enough to warrant starting RT money ShoNuff and RookieBird 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminafalcon Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Price determines everything. Without knowing market I think 7-10 million a year for 3 years is fair. That’s similar to what gage got last year and I would rate mcgary contributions this year similarly to gages last year PokerSteve and ShoNuff 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShmevinShmarris Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 years $36M Frontload the contract so we can cut ties in season 3 or 4 if we find an upgrade ShoNuff, The Don™ and PokerSteve 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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