tl;dr Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, Aluminafalcon said: Skoronski should be in that range. Granted still early in my prep but grabbing highest o line on board that has tackle/ guard versatility is might enticing. Granted that means we need to get a couple knockout defensive players in free agency I’m okay with a T too. Gotta build the OL. Gotta build the DL too but if there isn’t a guy available there that we like, take the OL. Top 15 OL have worked out well for us in the past 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 the raiders are up 24-14 right now GrimeyKidd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 39 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said: Skoronski, Bresee, Murphy, Wilson, Stroud that is your main list of guys in the 5 to 10 range i would say to choose from that would be atleast above avg to great picks for us in the long run. Thats actually a very good group of guys. Outside of Carter, Anderson, and Young the top 3 the rest of the dudes are about similar talent and we were never making it to the top 3 picks to begin with. stroud shouldnt be on the list picking a qb with the defense being terrible wouldnt be smart plus ridder looks like the guy and should be given a whole year to prove himself Chitown2ATL_Falcon, Drunken Minotaur Zebra, JohnnyUtahFalconfan36 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ket222 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 So by winning a meaningless game we lost the chance to get one of the two top DEs or Qbs or Carter. This is what I find so **** infuriating about this team. Does anyone think that our run first play calling is ever going to get us to a super bowl? I just see us at best perpetually better than average and it's honestly depressing Drunken Minotaur Zebra, Aluminafalcon, FentayeJones and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, PriMeTiiMe said: SOS between Atlanta, Carolina and Las Vegas is so close we could land anywhere between picks 7, 8, 9 if all 3 teams lose out. Theirs also a chance we can get pick 6 or pick 10. - Pick 6 would require losing out, Winning the SOS tiebreaker over Carolina and Vegas (or them winning a game) and the Rams winning a game. - Pick 7 would require losing out and Winning the SOS tiebreaker over Carolina and Vegas (or them winning a game) - Pick 8 where we currently slotted - Pick 9 if the SOS swings in week 18 and lose the tiebreaker to Carolina and Vegas - Pick 10 if we beat the Bucs and Vegas and Carolina loses out I think 9 is as low as we can go now even if we beat Tampa. Vegas has the highest remaining SOS of all teams, so them beating the 9ers would be awesome. We couldn't pick below them even with a win (if they beat the 9ers). We only dropped one slot with the win today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I’d rather pick late than early. Just ask the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions or the Atlanta Lions 😜how it pans out when you are the perennial early pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, ket222 said: So by winning a meaningless game we lost the chance to get one of the two top DEs or Qbs or Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 13 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: stroud shouldnt be on the list picking a qb with the defense being terrible wouldnt be smart plus ridder looks like the guy and should be given a whole year to prove himself If theirs not a defensive player worty of the pick compared to Stroud who is a legit top 3 to 4 talent then you shouldn't settle for a much lesser talented player. Even more so when you don't have a proven guy at the position Stroud plays at. I like Ridder as much as the next guy but im not gonna sit here and act like their aren't more talented guys that can be had in the right situation either. Im talking about something like this as a situation Falcons end up picking 9th or 10th and the draft goes something like Young, Anderson, Carter, Skoronski, Murphy, Bresee, Wilson, as 8 of the 1st 10 guys taken. Im personally not settling for a much less talented player at 9 or 10 than Stroud if there. Now with that said if someone wants to come trade up for stroud then im all for that as well as we need more picks. But if we can't get a good offer im taking Stroud no doubt about it in that situation. JohnnyUtahFalconfan36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 54 minutes ago, ket222 said: So by winning a meaningless game we lost the chance to get one of the two top DEs or Qbs or Carter. This is what I find so **** infuriating about this team. Does anyone think that our run first play calling is ever going to get us to a super bowl? I just see us at best perpetually better than average and it's honestly depressing You don’t think there is any value in a rookie QB playing well and getting his first win? If we would lose out the same people complaining about winning would be complaining that Ridder is 0-4 and should be replaced with a rookie QB. falconidae, GrimeyKidd, Ghosts of Glanville and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 59 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said: If theirs not a defensive player worty of the pick compared to Stroud who is a legit top 3 to 4 talent then you shouldn't settle for a much lesser talented player. Even more so when you don't have a proven guy at the position Stroud plays at. I like Ridder as much as the next guy but im not gonna sit here and act like their aren't more talented guys that can be had in the right situation either. Im talking about something like this as a situation Falcons end up picking 9th or 10th and the draft goes something like Young, Anderson, Carter, Skoronski, Murphy, Bresee, Wilson, as 8 of the 1st 10 guys taken. Im personally not settling for a much less talented player at 9 or 10 than Stroud if there. Now with that said if someone wants to come trade up for stroud then im all for that as well as we need more picks. But if we can't get a good offer im taking Stroud no doubt about it in that situation. im not taking him over a top cb or ol Chitown2ATL_Falcon and Aluminafalcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: im not taking him over a top cb or ol I am always for drafting the lines in round 1, and a good OL or DL player will be there in the 7-10 range. a stud CB opposite of AJ makes sense too. Hayward is older and always hurt and we don’t know how re-signing AJT will go yet. Chitown2ATL_Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, kenn.junior said: im not taking him over a top cb or ol We just have different draft philosophies then my friend. Im taking BPA over a position of need as long as both positions are a need. Now if the players talent levels are about the same coming out then i will probably go bigger need over BPA. But in the scenario i said they wouldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Kildare Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, ket222 said: So by winning a meaningless game we lost the chance to get one of the two top DEs or Qbs or Carter. This is what I find so **** infuriating about this team. Does anyone think that our run first play calling is ever going to get us to a super bowl? I just see us at best perpetually better than average and it's honestly depressing The run first philosophy is one of the best things about Arthur Smith. A lot of people are tired of Falcon teams which fade in the 4th quarter because of a run last philosophy. Chitown2ATL_Falcon and VTCrunkler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said: We just have different draft philosophies then my friend. Im taking BPA over a position of need as long as both positions are a need. Now if the players talent levels are about the same coming out then i will probably go bigger need over BPA. But in the scenario i said they wouldn't be. I like BPA to a degree, but no team goes strictly BPA IMO. Notice how we never even thought about a round 1-2 QB when Ryan was here. Now Ridder is not Matt Ryan at this point, so can’t say they won’t take a QB because of Ridder, but if they feel Ridder is a franchise QB they likely will pass on another QB for positional talent. If nothing else to avoid the QB controversy. If they do think Ridder is the guy, the best thing they can do for him is put a wall of an OL in front of him. JohnnyUtahFalconfan36 and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, FalconFan13 said: We just have different draft philosophies then my friend. Im taking BPA over a position of need as long as both positions are a need. Now if the players talent levels are about the same coming out then i will probably go bigger need over BPA. But in the scenario i said they wouldn't be. the problem is he gonna look like mariota, ridder, and ryan has looked with once again 0 defense. i dont understand why you guys haven’t understood that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, PriMeTiiMe said: Completely forgot about Seattle tbh. Good catch yep y’all both caught this same time lol Man it was super close that Chargers win almost pulled it out for us on the SOS. It got us within .001 % of the Raiders SOS. Raiders still kept it but it was so close that after the monday night game if the Bills beat the Bengals we take it back over. The SOS watch is crazy i can't say i have ever done that before but it's sorta funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, 1989Fan said: I like BPA to a degree, but no team goes strictly BPA IMO. Notice how we never even thought about a round 1-2 QB when Ryan was here. Now Ridder is not Matt Ryan at this point, so can’t say they won’t take a QB because of Ridder, but if they feel Ridder is a franchise QB they likely will pass on another QB for positional talent. If nothing else to avoid the QB controversy. If they think a Ridder is the guy, the best thing they can do for him is put a wall of an OL in front of him. Yeah and even in my post i said i wouldn't go strictly BPA. I said if both positions are of a need then i go BPA. If a position is of no need at all and we got a Pro bowl type player there or a very above avg player then i'll likely go another way with it and take BPA at position of need. Bit in the scenario we are in right now we don't have a above avg player at almost any position outside of RG, CB1, 1x DT, LT, and ST players. The rest of the positions should be fair game if you can get a big time upgrade and true top 3 talent at the position if they fall to you. This includes QB as well if the said QB is in a whole other tier list talent wise than the dudes that fall to you. I like Ridder myself personally and think he will probably be a good QB but i also don't think he is so elite of a player coming out that i turn down top tier prospect to have him battle it out with. Now if another player in the top 7 falls to us at a position of need thats similar to Stroud talent wise then im all for taking those positions over Stroud 1st. My scenario was completely based off of all the top 5 to 7 quality guys being gone at 9 or 10 and us settling for a inferior prospect because of it. 1989Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I’ll take one of those Clemson DL and run with it JohnnyUtahFalconfan36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 BPA OR DEATH, MOTHERCLUCKERS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusSaves Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Top 10 pick is solid, I really would rather be at 7 than 8-10 but wouldn't hurt my feelings at all to see the Bucs lose. Pass rush or offensive line seems to be the obvious areas we'd be looking at near the top of round 1. JohnnyUtahFalconfan36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 15 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: the problem is he gonna look like mariota, ridder, and ryan has looked with once again 0 defense. i dont understand why you guys haven’t understood that The fact that you think 1 player just 1 is going to completely change the whole team is crazy to me. It's going to take alot of players over the next 2 to 3 years to get us back to where we need to be. Now with that said a better player at QB can expedite that and make the transition alot easier. While also making the players you pickup better themselves. This is not to say Stroud will even be as good or better than Ridder. This is more so saying that talent wise coming out he is considered a top 3 prospect for a reason and Ridder was not. Im all for upgrading every position on the field not just certain ones and im also of the notion it's going to take more than 1 season to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, ket222 said: So by winning a meaningless game we lost the chance to get one of the two top DEs or Qbs or Carter. This is what I find so **** infuriating about this team. Does anyone think that our run first play calling is ever going to get us to a super bowl? I just see us at best perpetually better than average and it's honestly depressing The 49ers run the ball all the time. And IMO they are the best team in the NFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 This is a deep draft and besides Anderson, not very top heavy. Picks 6-10 will be a complete toss up. GrimeyKidd and Chitown2ATL_Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 37 minutes ago, jidady said: BPA OR DEATH, MOTHERCLUCKERS!!! Jaxon Smith-Nagba here we come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenn.junior Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, FalconFan13 said: The fact that you think 1 player just 1 is going to completely change the whole team is crazy to me. It's going to take alot of players over the next 2 to 3 years to get us back to where we need to be. Now with that said a better player at QB can expedite that and make the transition alot easier. While also making the players you pickup better themselves. This is not to say Stroud will even be as good or better than Ridder. This is more so saying that talent wise coming out he is considered a top 3 prospect for a reason and Ridder was not. Im all for upgrading every position on the field not just certain ones and im also of the notion it's going to take more than 1 season to do it. i believe picking a quality player on defense is smarter then picking a young qb again to carry the franchise when the defense has been trash for a decade +. we possible already have the qb now build up the unit that sucks. wasting a pick on stroud isnt a smart plan especially when he might not be better than a year 2 ridder Edited January 2 by kenn.junior Jerz, JohnnyUtahFalconfan36, Aluminafalcon and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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