Ezekiel 25:17 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 hours ago, hjerry said: To be fair to McGary, our biggest problems on OL are on the interior. We need a new center and LG more than we need a new RT We struggle running to that side as well. Even though I would like to upgrade at RT, that alone won’t fix our line. We need at least two better OLs like you said. mtldirtybird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 McGary is good, not great. But we have a lot bigger immediate needs so the more important thing to me is pay him what he’s worth, not what he thinks he’s worth. I’m not in a hurry to let him walk but he’s definitely not worth a bidding war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, me4falcons said: If his pass blocking improved he would be a pro bowler. You really think fans outside of the Falcons know who he is outside of seeing his name on the voting list? RetroRoq 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: You really think fans outside of the Falcons know who he is outside of seeing his name on the voting list? I was very surprised when Lindstrom got the nod mtldirtybird and RetroRoq 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRoq Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: You really think fans outside of the Falcons know who he is outside of seeing his name on the voting list? 5 minutes ago, hjerry said: I was very surprised when Lindstrom got the nod To be honest, most people who claim to be Falcon fans have no clue who these guys are. They're still watching he games looking for #11 and figuring he just isnt in the lineup cause he is hurt. me4falcons and Aluminafalcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminafalcon Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 McGary is fine at right tackle as long as the game plan calls for under 25 pass attempts and we aren’t playing against Cameron Jordan Falcons_Frenzy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 16 hours ago, hjerry said: Now show him pass blocking Falcons_Frenzy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, Aluminafalcon said: McGary is fine at right tackle as long as the game plan calls for under 25 pass attempts and we aren’t playing against Cameron Jordan Ironically, with them starting a rookie I thought that WOULD BE the game plan. But what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 People keep saying they need to upgrade C,LG and RT.....realistically who are the players you are talking about and how do you know once they get here they will be better. I remember everyone hyped over Jaman Brown/James Carpenter replacing Schwitzer and Ben Garland and they were no better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminafalcon Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: People keep saying they need to upgrade C,LG and RT.....realistically who are the players you are talking about and how do you know once they get here they will be better. I remember everyone hyped over Jaman Brown/James Carpenter replacing Schwitzer and Ben Garland and they were no better. Truthfully I think mcgary gets resigned on a 2-3 year deal for 8-10 million a year. At center I think dalman gets another year maybe we throw another mid rounder at it. At left guard I think we go out and get someone or pull some trade back magic and draft top guard on the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: People keep saying they need to upgrade C,LG and RT.....realistically who are the players you are talking about and how do you know once they get here they will be better. I remember everyone hyped over Jaman Brown/James Carpenter replacing Schwitzer and Ben Garland and they were no better. No one hyped over those players because they were good, or because there was evidence that they would be good (in fact many pointed out that they sucked), but rather just because they were Falcons and wanted to have optimism that we would improve Ezekiel 25:17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Run blocking is also somewhat easier now that defenders cannot chop the guy down. I would not want to be a DB in the league now. You can be pancaked by a guy but you cant cut his legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: People keep saying they need to upgrade C,LG and RT.....realistically who are the players you are talking about and how do you know once they get here they will be better. I remember everyone hyped over Jaman Brown/James Carpenter replacing Schwitzer and Ben Garland and they were no better. I can’t recall ANYONE being hyped about those signings. Matter of fact, most were asking who Da he!! they were. As far as who to bring in, that will be better answered once the season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamb Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 My opinion: Keep mcgary Scour fa for veteran c or lg Fa/draft dl space eater and edge Draft lockdown corner ? ilb/ draft or fa? Draft mid round wr Voila......basis for a good team until injuries hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Tribal Chief said: How many pressures and hits? League average The entire line was league average in 20 on a per pass basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: League average The entire line was league average in 20 on a per pass basis. What’s individual league average? This is only about McGary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux_Falcons Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 22 hours ago, Herr Doktor said: I like McGary. But, I think the team sent the message by not picking up his option. He's done. The message might've been: Here's your prove it deal. Now go show us why we should re-sign you in the off-season. He's got like 90+ run grade from PFF, and around 66 in pass block. At the very least, he's an elite road grading RT, and an average pass blocker. Not a lot of tacklers out there that can say that in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux_Falcons Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: I can’t recall ANYONE being hyped about those signings. Matter of fact, most were asking who Da he!! they were. As far as who to bring in, that will be better answered once the season is over. Carpenter came with a lil bit of hype being the best of a sub par OL. The word on Brown was that he might've been ascending towards being a relevant OG from another paltry OL. Oddly, both players came from both the NY teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: What’s individual league average? This is only about McGary He was like 16th in pressures allowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: He was like 16th in pressures allowed Was or is? What’s the exact number though? Not giving up sacks is just one part of the job. Mariota actually being an efficient scrambler helped a lot more than it’s given credit. McGary hasn’t improved as much as being made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: Was or is? What’s the exact number though? Not giving up sacks is just one part of the job. Mariota actually being an efficient scrambler helped a lot more than it’s given credit. McGary hasn’t improved as much as being made Was, the point is that he made big strides from year 1 to year 2 which is what you want to see , he has done it again from year 1 to year 2 under Smith. I watch him every time I rewatch games and pretty much every time he does better than I thought. If we do not sign him then some team is going to give him a bigger deal then people think. Also Mariota helped create some of his own pressure because he would start to panic in the pocket ... his pocket awareness was ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 17 hours ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: And if you go with someone else in FA there is a very good chance the Falcons will pay more for less. this is what scares me most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said: did you really already forget how much of a real turnstile Mayfield was last year? McGary is nowhere near that bad. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood all the way! Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) It all depends how much he wants. I don't want to open up yet another hole on the roster, let alone on the oline. LG and C are bigger problems. Unless he's asking for elite RT money, I say re-sign him. Or at least tag him Edited December 30, 2022 by Norwood all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: Was, the point is that he made big strides from year 1 to year 2 which is what you want to see , he has done it again from year 1 to year 2 under Smith. I watch him every time I rewatch games and pretty much every time he does better than I thought. If we do not sign him then some team is going to give him a bigger deal then people think. Also Mariota helped create some of his own pressure because he would start to panic in the pocket ... his pocket awareness was ****. Ah. Was. That's what I figured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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