This is why i dont want to hear about no other needs on this team until we fix this

[atljbo]

I dont care about no other need until we improve this and getting Grady some PROVEN help.... MULTIPLE GUYS .... You never know how an offseason will go but we have to go after multiple guys in FA and i still might add a guy in the first 2 days on draft day.

Iagree we need a #2 CB (can grab early in the draft) , A speed #2 WR (can grab in the middle rounds in the draft), and  I get if some want to add a safety... I dont totally get why RG and C is so high on ppl list an you have a top 10 O-Line... Its ok to have solid pieces.. Every position dont have to be top 5 at there position if your unit is producing.

 

But mann this cant be an issue after this season if we are going to become the team we want to become..

[PokerSteve]

That we continue to have ZERO pass rush is ridiculous. What's that worth to opposing offensive coordinators, that we pose absolutely no threat to the QB? LOL. After this draft and FA period, there will be no more excuses for this Clown Show of a pass rush. At least for lack of talent.  

[FalconFanSince1969]

All that tells me is that we need another pass catcher......duh

[FalconFanSince1969]

Also, Micha parsons alone has 26 sacks the past 2 years......take that how you will

 

 

 

[JDaveG]

1 minute ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

All that tells me is that we need another pass catcher......duh

We

Don't 

Draft

For 

Need

 

 

 

 

And even if we did, we still need pass catchers too.

[CADirtyBird]

Don't we get Heyward back next season? We won't need a #2 CB if he's healthy.

Agree on the O-line also, although they do need to figure out what they're going to do with McGary. Bringing in a vet to compete with Dalman at C would be ideal.

[Mister pudding]

This needs to be addressed in FA with proven player(s). I also wouldn't mind an early pick. We will have money, so shopping for FA at the Dollar Tree can't be an excuse

[EddieK]

7 minutes ago, CADirtyBird said:

Don't we get Heyward back next season? We won't need a #2 CB if he's healthy.

Agree on the O-line also, although they do need to figure out what they're going to do with McGary. Bringing in a vet to compete with Dalman at C would be ideal.

The problem is, he never stays healthy, we need to get a #2 CB who can stay healthy

[FalconFanSince1969]

9 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

We

Don't 

Draft

For 

Need

 

 

 

 

And even if we did, we still need pass catchers too.

That statement completely contradicts itself. We don't draft for need, but we drafted pass catchers that you just said we needed?

[JDaveG]

6 minutes ago, CADirtyBird said:

Don't we get Heyward back next season? We won't need a #2 CB if he's healthy.

Agree on the O-line also, although they do need to figure out what they're going to do with McGary. Bringing in a vet to compete with Dalman at C would be ideal.

Here's what I see -- if you go to this link:

https://overthecap.com/calculator/atlanta-falcons

You can scroll through the free agents on the right hand side.  The FO is going to look at those and determine who we want to bring back or who can be upgraded.  The only guys I see them potentially making a push to re-sign as starters are McGary and Evans.  They might re-sign Wilkinson, and will likely try to retain Oliver as a NB, but neither of them will be slotted as sure fire starters, since both are easily upgraded (same might be said for McGary for that matter).  The rest of them can be upgraded or will be re-signed for cheap depth.

Then going to the main list of players under contract, Mariota is gone, but most of the rest are sort of your core guys.  And most of them can also be upgraded.  So what I anticipate is a spending spree in free agency to include one, maybe two, splash signings, and then across-the-board upgrades to every position that can be upgraded.  They will try to fill every hole on this team through the free agency process and use the draft to continue to add talent.  I'm excited to see it, because just a handful of huge upgrades and then an across the board increase in talent will do this team worlds of good.  I'd wager the vast majority of our WRs are gone next season.  Probably most of the corners too.  Certainly at least half the linebackers.  We'll add to the d-line.  I'd also bet they spend the dollars where they find the value.  Ideally they'd get a true stud pass rusher, but if that's not available, they'll get the best they can economically and get a stud somewhere else.

The thing I like about this front office and staff is they don't feel the need to reach, ever.  They are going to methodically improve the roster rather than going all in on a minor upgrade at a major hole.  

[JDaveG]

4 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

That statement completely contradicts itself. We don't draft for need, but we drafted pass catchers that you just said we needed?

We didn't draft them BECAUSE we needed them.

But we did need them.

[Atlantafan21]

6 minutes ago, EddieK said:

The problem is, he never stays healthy, we need to get a #2 CB who can stay healthy

He’s also old and now coming off a major injury 

[falconsd56]

18 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

Also, Micha parsons alone has 26 sacks the past 2 years......take that how you will

 

 

 

Not only could we have had him....we could have traded with Denver for him AND another couple of picks.

[FalconFanSince1969]

3 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

We didn't draft them BECAUSE we needed them.

But we did need them.

How are you privy to why we drafted them? Not one of us know that 

[JDaveG]

Just now, FalconFanSince1969 said:

How are you privy to why we drafted them? Not one of us know that 

Except they told us.....

[Vandy]

10 minutes ago, EddieK said:

The problem is, he never stays healthy, we need to get a #2 CB who can stay healthy

Plus truth to tell, he wasn’t playing that great before his injury. 

[Vandy]

2 hours ago, JDaveG said:

Except they told us.....

As much as peeps complain about our lack of passing game, imagine what it would be without London or Pitts the past two years. 
 

It’s a 5 year plan folks, not a one year.

But back to the OP’s take, you, he, myself and most others in here have been pounding the table since forever to fix the pass rush. 

[ThemDarnFalconsBoy!]

46 minutes ago, atljbo said:

Piss poor!!! Tired of it. No excuses next season! We have cap space finally so we don't have to go bargain bin shopping to try to get some talent on this d-line. The thing is I think Grady may be checked out from his comments as of late. Unless we get him help on our pedestrian line and "EDGE" positions. 

It all starts on the line, so we need a big space clogging NT that plugs the gaps and allows the the pass rushers to do their thing.

[JDaveG]

Just now, Vandy said:

As much as peeps complain about our lack of passing gave, imagine it without London or Pitts the past two years. 

I still would put WR in the top 3 needs this offseason.  That's how bad it is AFTER spending 2 first rounders on a pass catching TE and a WR.

We need pass catchers worse than we need o-line or d-line.  Edge is a bigger need, but even there we have Malone and Ebiketie who are at least minimally competent (competing for 2 spots instead of 5, no less).  Linebacker is probably a bigger need, and safety, but we really only need one of each of those.

If I had my way, OZ would be no higher than 4th on our depth chart after upgrading the other 3 WR positions next season.  We need a solid, competent no. 2 and a downfield burner.  I'd consider bringing back OZ and London and literally no one else, though I'd be happy with getting a solid no. 2, a burner, and keeping Hodge and OZ.

[Bunchy Carter]

I promise I wouldn't be mad if the Falcons signed 4 Free agent Dlineman/OLB and drafted some too.

At this point, I want Blank to purchase the DNA of Reggie White, LT, Derrick Thomas and Strahan. Hire a scientist to clone us the greatest pass rushers of All time 

[Vandy]

3 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

I still would put WR in the top 3 needs this offseason.  That's how bad it is AFTER spending 2 first rounders on a pass catching TE and a WR.

We need pass catchers worse than we need o-line or d-line.  Edge is a bigger need, but even there we have Malone and Ebiketie who are at least minimally competent (competing for 2 spots instead of 5, no less).  Linebacker is probably a bigger need, and safety, but we really only need one of each of those.

If I had my way, OZ would be no higher than 4th on our depth chart after upgrading the other 3 WR positions next season.  We need a solid, competent no. 2 and a downfield burner.  I'd consider bringing back OZ and London and literally no one else, though I'd be happy with getting a solid no. 2, a burner, and keeping Hodge and OZ.

I still want DL before anything if near BPA, but yes, WR is still far from fixed. 

[FalconFanSince1969]

5 minutes ago, Vandy said:

As much as peeps complain about our lack of passing game, imagine it without London or Pitts the past two years. 
 

It’s a 5 year plan folks, not a one year.

But back to the OP’s take, you, he, myself and most others in here have been pounding the table since forever to fix the pass rush. 

Plenty of 2nd and 3rd round receivers are productive. We could have had parsons ans friermuth who has about 4x the tds as pitts. Some of the best receivers in the game are 2nd and 3rd rounders 

[JDaveG]

1 minute ago, Vandy said:

I still want DL before anything if near BPA, but yes, WR is still far from fixed. 

Don't get me wrong -- with our cap space we can absolutely do both.  I'm just saying we need AT MOST one d-lineman and probably one stud edge guy.  

We literally need 2-3 WRs and one of them has to be a solid, front line starter.

[JDaveG]

Also, not for nothing -- if we want to fix the pass rush, what we really need is secondary and linebackers.  No pass rusher is getting to the QB before our secondary gives up the goods.

[Bigjmw084]

Best case scenario would be to extend Hayward 1 more yr for at a lower number and bring down the cap # and move him into the slot. Go for legit CB and S in FA.