AS has to do better

[The Don™]

17, 15, 20, 13, 16, 18,  and 9.

Points the offense has scored the last 7 games. That's almost two months. Surely AS can do better than this. The once good redzone offense has gone to crap. 

The offense ain't working and hasn't worked since consistently since Oct 30th. That's the last time offense scored more than 20 points. And guess what... AS ain't doing much to adapt. Hence how defenses have literally had the same gameplan every week against us. They don't care we can run. They know we don't have the horses in the passing game and a somewhat predictable passing scheme. We throw too many low percentage throws (chunk plays) on early downs to get us to third and long. From there, teams blitz and play man. This formula has worked for defenses for almost two months now against this offense. Also, noticed the Ravens kept blitzing off the edge on second down? That's because we mostly call playaction on second. Other teams during this skid have done it too. The playcalls have been predictable and that has nothing to do with the talent. 

Does our talent suck? Yes. But AS can do better. Results don't lie and AS isn't doing anything to help get us over the 20 point hump.

[mqg96]

I'm totally right there with you Don. Also, Arthur Smith has a poor record in the NFC South so far, 3-8 vs. the NFC South his first 2 seasons as head coach so far, likely to be 3-9 after week 18 since we can't ever beat Brady. Getting swept by Dennis Allen was unacceptable as well. 

[RazorWing]

I wonder if we should have hired kcs offensive coordinator 

[The Don™]

I want to set the record straight. I mostly like AS and his job is safe for at least another year. But year three will need improvement in the passing game, adapting better when something ain't working and less predictabilty.

[Geaux_Falcons]

Well he got rid of the main problem already. Plus, he's down in terms of weapons to use. 

[The Don™]

1 minute ago, Geaux_Falcons said:

Well he got rid of the main problem already. Plus, he's down in terms of weapons to use. 

I agree. Mariota sucked. Pitts is a huge loss. But not using CP at all in the passing game when it was working last year beautifully is an AS problem. Redzone playcalling has also been atrocious at times. The low percentage chunk plays are also an AS problem. Third and longs happen too often. That's a coaching thing because short passes barely exist in this offense unless it's a flat throw to a RB. That's an AS problem.

[Beast-N-Da-Sheetz]

50 minutes ago, RazorWing said:

I wonder if we should have hired kcs offensive coordinator 

Or Brian Daboll

[Geaux_Falcons]

8 hours ago, The Don™ said:

I agree. Mariota sucked. Pitts is a huge loss. But not using CP at all in the passing game when it was working last year beautifully is an AS problem. Redzone playcalling has also been atrocious at times. The low percentage chunk plays are also an AS problem. Third and longs happen too often. That's a coaching thing because short passes barely exist in this offense unless it's a flat throw to a RB. That's an AS problem.

I think a lot of this points back to the weapons at his QB's disposal, which forces an overreliance on running the ball and resulting in those 3rd and longs. Outside of London, we really don't have much since Pitts went down.

OZ and Byrd are 5'9, one trick ponies. We don't have guys that can and will take a dig route to the house or get YAC on a deep cross.

A big part of the chunk plays he got in Tennessee were via AJ Brown getting YAC and explosive TDs.

I said it another thread about CP probably not being 100%. TA isn't an elusive back. Maybe Avery Williams could be used more.

[Mid-Nite-Toker]

AS is not above criticism, no coach is.

I still think he's done a great coaching job with what he has.

He quickly identified the strength to this team and tried to maximize it. We are elite run team in meaningful areas.

The passing game lacks talent and execution whether qb, oline, or receiving depth a times.

Not to mention we are the least penalized team, a sign of good coaching.

No way do I think AS needs replacing nor do I think he was a bad hire.

Let's see what he does with some talent before we bury the guy.

[A Dog Named Brian]

1 hour ago, RazorWing said:

I wonder if we should have hired kcs offensive coordinator 

I think there’s a reason he keeps missing the hiring cycle each off-season. From what I understand he’s not exactly cut out for a head coach position 

[Dirtybirdhundo]

1 minute ago, A Dog Named Brian said:

I think there’s a reason he keeps missing the hiring cycle each off-season. From what I understand he’s not exactly cut out for a head coach position 

That’s bullcrap I think I really think it’s because people don’t know how much I put he really has on the kc which any Reid’s says he has a a lot 

[The Don™]

10 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said:

I think a lot of this points back to the weapons at his QB's disposal, which forces an overreliance on running the ball and resulting in those 3rd and longs. Outside of London, we really don't have much since Pitts went down.

OZ and Byrd are 5'9, one trick ponies. We don't have guys that can and will take a dig route to the house or get YAC on a deep cross.

A big part of the chunk plays he got in Tennessee were via AJ Brown getting YAC and explosive TDs.

I said it another thread about CP probably not being 100%. TA isn't an elusive back. Maybe Avery Williams could be used more.

Yeah I get that. Most people agree the talent isn't there.

Your points speak to my point. Ok we so don't have much talent. Ok so quit calling low percentage throws 15-30 yards down the field on early downs to set us up for third and long. He's basically calling the same game that he was calling with Mariota. We know Mariota can't throw intermediate to deep but AS continued to call those too often. Didn't work. Never changed. He's doing the same thing so far. It ain't working. The same thing happened last year with Ryan. Defenses figured us out a couple months into the season (just like now) and AS never adjusted to defenses playing man and blitzing often. Same ish happening now.

Let OZ and Byrd run drags and crosses to use their speed and beat man coverages.  There are such things as shorter throws too. We barely call them unless we need to.

When you can't score more than 20 points on offense for the past two months, it's not just a talent problem. I see the same mistakes being repeated from last year as this year and AS DOES NOT deviate. Let me repeat, AS does not deviate even after defenses have had the same gameplan against us for the last two months.

[A Dog Named Brian]

2 minutes ago, Dirtybirdhundo said:

That’s bullcrap I think I really think it’s because people don’t know how much I put he really has on the kc which any Reid’s says he has a a lot 

[The Don™]

9 minutes ago, Mid-Nite-Toker said:

AS is not above criticism, no coach is.

I still think he's done a great coaching job with what he has.

He quickly identified the strength to this team and tried to maximize it. We are elite run team in meaningful areas.

The passing game lacks talent and execution whether qb, oline, or receiving depth a times.

Not to mention we are the least penalized team, a sign of good coaching.

No way do I think AS needs replacing nor do I think he was a bad hire.

Let's see what he does with some talent before we bury the guy.

 

9 minutes ago, Mid-Nite-Toker said:

AS is not above criticism, no coach is.

I still think he's done a great coaching job with what he has.

He quickly identified the strength to this team and tried to maximize it. We are elite run team in meaningful areas.

The passing game lacks talent and execution whether qb, oline, or receiving depth a times.

Not to mention we are the least penalized team, a sign of good coaching.

No way do I think AS needs replacing nor do I think he was a bad hire.

Let's see what he does with some talent before we bury the guy.

I agree but he can do better. He hasn't deviated from his gameplan since our inability to score more than 20 points. That's a coaching issue too. 

[Jpg428gggg]

AS could do better but we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot with mistakes. London with fumbles in back to back games. Refs blew the intentional grounding but Ridder should have gotten rid of it sooner. The holding on Zacheus was trash.

We are not talented enough to overcome mistakes. We won early in the season because we limited penalties and turnovers. Now, we keep losing close games due to a couple mistakes a game.

[FalconJim]

1 hour ago, The Don™ said:

17, 15, 20, 13, 16, 18,  and 9.

Points the offense has scored the last 7 games. That's almost two months. Surely AS can do better than this. The once good redzone offense has gone to crap. 

The offense ain't working and hasn't worked since consistently since Oct 30th. That's the last time offense scored more than 20 points. And guess what... AS ain't doing much to adapt. Hence how defenses have literally had the same gameplan every week against us. They don't care we can run. They know we don't have the horses in the passing game and a somewhat predictable passing scheme. We throw too many low percentage throws (chunk plays) on early downs to get us to third and long. From there, teams blitz and play man. This formula has worked for defenses for almost two months now against this offense. Also, noticed the Ravens kept blitzing off the edge on second down? That's because we mostly call playaction on second. Other teams during this skid have done it too. The playcalls have been predictable and that has nothing to do with the talent. 

Does our talent suck? Yes. But AS can do better. Results don't lie and AS isn't doing anything to help get us over the 20 point hump.

Personally, I would like to see AS hire a proven OC, so he can concentrate more on being a HC!!!  At some point, I think he's going to have to give up calling all the plays, all the time. 
Now whether he would be willing to do that, is the question... 

 

 

 

 

 

[Redjack]

18 minutes ago, Dirtybirdhundo said:

That’s bullcrap I think I really think it’s because people don’t know how much I put he really has on the kc which any Reid’s says he has a a lot 

Bro what.

[raysnill1]

8 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said:

I think a lot of this points back to the weapons at his QB's disposal, which forces an overreliance on running the ball and resulting in those 3rd and longs. Outside of London, we really don't have much since Pitts went down.

OZ and Byrd are 5'9, one trick ponies. We don't have guys that can and will take a dig route to the house or get YAC on a deep cross.

A big part of the chunk plays he got in Tennessee were via AJ Brown getting YAC and explosive TDs.

I said it another thread about CP probably not being 100%. TA isn't an elusive back. Maybe Avery Williams could be used more.

Mariota made Bryan Edwards expendable and we don't know what we have in Frank Darby yet

[Dirtybirdhundo]

1 minute ago, Redjack said:

Bro what.

People don’t know how much input he has in putting together kc offense 

[Mr.11]

10 minutes ago, The Don™ said:

 

I agree but he can do better. He hasn't deviated from his gameplan since our inability to score more than 20 points. That's a coaching issue too. 

What are you talking about? Ridder threw 26 times in his first start and 32 times today. He's calling more passing plays on first down.

I don't know what you're watching, but there is a clear deviation going from Mariota to Ridder.

[jamesmasen]

18 minutes ago, Mr.11 said:

What are you talking about? Ridder threw 26 times in his first start and 32 times today. He's calling more passing plays on first down.

I don't know what you're watching, but there is a clear deviation going from Mariota to Ridder.

I was going to say this.. arguably everyone's mad because he's opened up the offense with Ridder at the helm when we really should just be running the ball more.. kind of stuck between wanting to win and wanting to give Ridder all the opportunities to develop and gain passing experience/see what he's got

[The Don™]

1 minute ago, Mr.11 said:

What are you talking about? Ridder threw 26 times in his first start and 32 times today. He's calling more passing plays on first down.

I don't know what you're watching, but there is a clear deviation going from Mariota to Ridder.

Just because we're passing more doesn't mean squat. Was today an improvement from Ridder? Yes definitely. But it still doesn't dismiss our inability to score points. There's more to it than just passing more.

[Mid-Nite-Toker]

41 minutes ago, The Don™ said:

 

I agree but he can do better. He hasn't deviated from his gameplan since our inability to score more than 20 points. That's a coaching issue too. 

He definitely has some areas to improve. Even coaches like Tomlin and Belicheck had to pay dues b4 things started clicking.

I think AS has a high ceiling.

[bossFALCON™]

1 minute ago, Mid-Nite-Toker said:

He definitely has some areas to improve. Even coaches like Tomlin and Belicheck had to pay dues b4 things started clicking.

I think AS has a high ceiling.

I agree 

[The Don™]

2 minutes ago, jamesmasen said:

I was going to say this.. arguably everyone's mad because he's opened up the offense with Ridder at the helm when we really should just be running the ball more.. kind of stuck between wanting to win and wanting to give Ridder all the opportunities to develop and gain passing experience/see what he's got

The offense passing more is not the issue. I'm glad he is. But there's a difference between passing more for the heck of it and calling right plays at the right time, having more high percentage throws, and having a good feel of the passing game. IMO, AS can be better. That's all I'm saying.