CROW - Apologies

[Boise Falcon Fan]

First, I would like to eat crow on believing that DR should have started all year! AS OBVIOUSLY made the right call, and it was VERY apparent yesterday that AS had been doing the right thing going with Mariota all season. I will take my crow with a side of rice pilaf please! 🤣

Now, I am not giving up on DR, because I liked what I saw in preseason. However, he looked REALLY bad, even for a rookie. Pocket awareness was sketchy, accuracy was awful, and his decision making left a lot to be desired. Dude should have had about 3 picks. All that being said, it was super obvious that the WR's are not good. They didn't seem to get any separation, and that makes it really hard for a QB. DR still deserves a chance, but I was hoping for just an average start for a QB. He wasn't even close to that. If he gives us an average start, we win that game yesterday. Heck, we almost came back to tie it with this pitiful start.

DR did nothing yesterday to inspire faith in his future as the starting QB of the Falcons, and I am left to wonder again why I continue to have unreal expectations. He is a rookie after all, but he didn't do anything yesterday to show that he is something for us to hang our hats on. 

I do not envy TF at all for trying to rebuild this roster into a contender. This team needs so much help. 

 

[FalconsFanSince194eva]

He did not look bad even for a rookie, I swear Matt has ****** up y’all perception of what a rookie is like. Its been 14 years and I bet yall have watched only a handful of games on rookie Qb first starts. 

[dirtybirds233]

Y'all are some knee jerk, dramatic mf'ers 😅

[SkerFalcon8710]

We don’t have to do this… 

 

stop making threads people 

[Tribal Chief]

No matter who the QB is, If the WR's aren't doing their jobs, the QB is going to look horrible stat wise. There's nothing him or any other QB can do about that except make the throw. It's on the receiver to get the ball once it's released from the QB's hand. Yesterday's game isn't a testament to the type of QB he is at all

[tbhawksfan]

Yesterday's game looked about like the rest and Rids didn't do much different than the 8 year vet. Put the crow back in the freezer and give the kid his chance

[Sun Tzu 7]

8 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

First, I would like to eat crow on believing that DR should have started all year! AS OBVIOUSLY made the right call, and it was VERY apparent yesterday that AS had been doing the right thing going with Mariota all season. I will take my crow with a side of rice pilaf please! 🤣

Now, I am not giving up on DR, because I liked what I saw in preseason. However, he looked REALLY bad, even for a rookie. Pocket awareness was sketchy, accuracy was awful, and his decision making left a lot to be desired. Dude should have had about 3 picks. All that being said, it was super obvious that the WR's are not good. They didn't seem to get any separation, and that makes it really hard for a QB. DR still deserves a chance, but I was hoping for just an average start for a QB. He wasn't even close to that. If he gives us an average start, we win that game yesterday. Heck, we almost came back to tie it with this pitiful start.

DR did nothing yesterday to inspire faith in his future as the starting QB of the Falcons, and I am left to wonder again why I continue to have unreal expectations. He is a rookie after all, but he didn't do anything yesterday to show that he is something for us to hang our hats on. 

I do not envy TF at all for trying to rebuild this roster into a contender. This team needs so much help. 

 

He was a rookie QB making his first start.

Let's think about this for a moment. How many snaps do you think he was really getting in practice during the regular season?

Practice is to get the starters prepared.

He was going to be sloppy. That has always been understood.

What should have happened is that he was starting earlier in the season and got real playing time experience under his belt.

But no. They wasted that on Mariota at the expense of Ridder's development and a true understanding if they had something to keep or if they should get another QB.

With 3 games left that's not going to be enough for a good enough sample size so they will ride with Ridder.

[Boise Falcon Fan]

Just now, Tribal Chief said:

No matter who the QB is. If the WR's aren't doing their jobs, the QB is going to look horrible stat wise. There's nothing him or any other QB can do about that except make the throw. It's on the receiver to get the ball once it's released from the QB's hand. Yesterday's game isn't a testament to the type of QB he is at all

I hope you are right, but my point is that I, and many others should not have been questioning AS regarding starting Mariota. It is painfully obvious that Mariota was the better choice right now, and that is just a fact. I was wrong.

[JDaveG]

5 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

First, I would like to eat crow on believing that DR should have started all year! AS OBVIOUSLY made the right call, and it was VERY apparent yesterday that AS had been doing the right thing going with Mariota all season. I will take my crow with a side of rice pilaf please! 🤣

Now, I am not giving up on DR, because I liked what I saw in preseason. However, he looked REALLY bad, even for a rookie. Pocket awareness was sketchy, accuracy was awful, and his decision making left a lot to be desired. Dude should have had about 3 picks. All that being said, it was super obvious that the WR's are not good. They didn't seem to get any separation, and that makes it really hard for a QB. DR still deserves a chance, but I was hoping for just an average start for a QB. He wasn't even close to that. If he gives us an average start, we win that game yesterday. Heck, we almost came back to tie it with this pitiful start.

DR did nothing yesterday to inspire faith in his future as the starting QB of the Falcons, and I am left to wonder again why I continue to have unreal expectations. He is a rookie after all, but he didn't do anything yesterday to show that he is something for us to hang our hats on. 

I do not envy TF at all for trying to rebuild this roster into a contender. This team needs so much help. 

 

It was a bad performance in the main, but some things to consider.

1). The defense put us in a 14-0 hole.  Ridder's first series was a 3-out, and that is not something that should be unexpected.  The defense did nothing at all to help him out early.

2). While his decision making early was bad, and he was making some throws against leverage, once he settled down and got going it was a LOT better.

3). He made the play on 4th down to move the chains.  That's a winner.  He stepped up when the team needed him most and London got the ball popped out.  Sometimes the other team makes a play, but a bad result is not the same as a bad play, and Ridder did not throw a headache ball to London.  He put it straight on the money.

4). The coaching staff is talking about his leadership and command of the offense.  That's not a small thing at all.  At some point he needs to step up his play, but he really did in the 2nd half.  It didn't turn out the way we wanted, and it was inconsistent, but I'd wager now that the rust is knocked off and his nerves are more settled, he'll start to look better.

Sometimes you can't just look at the stat line and the results of the game.  None of us were happy about how the game started or ended, nor much in between.  But there are reasons for optimism with Ridder, starting with this -- in his first ever NFL start he clawed his way back and made plays to put us in a position to win.  He made plays that hurt us too, obviously.  But he never gave up and when it counted the most, when the pressure was on the most, he did his job.  That's something to build on.

[Sun Tzu 7]

Just now, Boise Falcon Fan said:

I hope you are right, but my point is that I, and many others should not have been questioning AS regarding starting Mariota. It is painfully obvious that Mariota was the better choice right now, and that is just a fact. I was wrong.

Let's also think about this.

AS had 2 weeks to prepare for his game and his scripted plays were that?!

Did he not understand he had a rookie who had never taken a regular season snap playing in New Orleans? And he came out with that?! 2 weeks to prep. And that's what he came out with?

[tbhawksfan]

1 minute ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

I hope you are right, but my point is that I, and many others should not have been questioning AS regarding starting Mariota. It is painfully obvious that Mariota was the better choice right now, and that is just a fact. I was wrong.

It's quite possible to be wrong twice. Mariota was a waste of time. Would have been better to get the rook ready than waste time on Marioutahere

[Dark Bird Rising]

You didn't see Ridder looking at a wrist band with plays, he know the plays, he looked better than the other rookie QB's after his first drive. Ridder didn't look bad, he made a few bad throws but all QB's make bad throws every game. Truly, Ridder looked good, other areas of the offense didn't look good enough to win yesterday but they are growing too.

The defensive play caller did well subbing for Pees with no warning or self prep, this team is going to be very good, the fans just need to be patient, let the house get built and wait for 2023.

[Tribal Chief]

Just now, Boise Falcon Fan said:

I hope you are right, but my point is that I, and many others should not have been questioning AS regarding starting Mariota. It is painfully obvious that Mariota was the better choice right now, and that is just a fact. I was wrong.

How do you know you were wrong based off that one game? Furthermore why does it even matter if you were right or wrong?? It was his first start in a hostile environment against the toughest rival. He got no help from the guys he throws to yet you're saying you were wrong about him??? There's so many things that go into real genuine QB evaluation that about 95% of this board hasn't even begin to discuss and that's painful to type because every single one of you are giving knee jerk reactions without providing 100% context and simply saying he had a bad game. That's unfair to him and isn't a great look for the poster

[A Dog Named Brian]

Another friendly reminder that this is a TEAM sport. Defense let us down early and London was the only one getting separation.

[Boise Falcon Fan]

6 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said:

How do you know you were wrong based off that one game? Furthermore why does it even matter if you were right or wrong?? It was his first start in a hostile environment against the toughest rival. He got no help from the guys he throws to yet you're saying you were wrong about him??? There's so many things that go into real genuine QB evaluation that about 95% of this board hasn't even begin to discuss and that's painful to type because every single one of you are giving knee jerk reactions without providing 100% context and simply saying he had a bad game. That's unfair to him and isn't a great look for the poster

It's perfectly fair to say that I was wrong to question AS for his handling of the QB situation, and that actually does look good on the poster.

[Tribal Chief]

Just now, Boise Falcon Fan said:

It's perfectly fair to say that I was wrong to question AS for his handling of the QB situation, and that actually does look good on the poster.

Alrighty then. Have fun 

[FalconsFanSince194eva]

Just now, Boise Falcon Fan said:

It's perfectly fair to say that I was wrong to question AS for his handling of the QB situation, and that actually does look good on the poster.

To a certain extent it’s never wrong to question anything. Question are asked because there are no answers (most of the time). This start does not answer the question about AS being right or wrong. 

[Boise Falcon Fan]

Just now, Tribal Chief said:

Alrighty then. Have fun 

You're a real trip as usual.

[Dark Bird Rising]

Out of the QB class of 21 and 22, I like Ridder the most, he is going to be a brain like Peyton Manning was and he is going to sling it like Drew Brees by his 3rd year and yes we still need to draft a QB because **** happen in games and we don't want a drop off in position performance because of an injury.

[BigDawgMania]

9 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said:

How do you know you were wrong based off that one game? Furthermore why does it even matter if you were right or wrong?? It was his first start in a hostile environment against the toughest rival. He got no help from the guys he throws to yet you're saying you were wrong about him??? There's so many things that go into real genuine QB evaluation that about 95% of this board hasn't even begin to discuss and that's painful to type because every single one of you are giving knee jerk reactions without providing 100% context and simply saying he had a bad game. That's unfair to him and isn't a great look for the poster

Thank you!

[Tribal Chief]

2 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

You're a real trip as usual.

All I said was have fun. I'm not going to take the time to do a deep dive into something that ultimately turns into a waste of my time typing

[kschreck]

I was one who was not in a hurry to see Ridder. We knew he was a project, we knew our receiving depth wasn't good and we knew the oline is weak at pass pro.

There was some good and some bad.  He was playing against a solid defense in a hostile environment.  My opinion hasn't really changed in either direction, need to give the kid time.

[Swayzee]

24 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said:

First, I would like to eat crow on believing that DR should have started all year! AS OBVIOUSLY made the right call, and it was VERY apparent yesterday that AS had been doing the right thing going with Mariota all season. I will take my crow with a side of rice pilaf please! 🤣

Now, I am not giving up on DR, because I liked what I saw in preseason. However, he looked REALLY bad, even for a rookie. Pocket awareness was sketchy, accuracy was awful, and his decision making left a lot to be desired. Dude should have had about 3 picks. All that being said, it was super obvious that the WR's are not good. They didn't seem to get any separation, and that makes it really hard for a QB. DR still deserves a chance, but I was hoping for just an average start for a QB. He wasn't even close to that. If he gives us an average start, we win that game yesterday. Heck, we almost came back to tie it with this pitiful start.

DR did nothing yesterday to inspire faith in his future as the starting QB of the Falcons, and I am left to wonder again why I continue to have unreal expectations. He is a rookie after all, but he didn't do anything yesterday to show that he is something for us to hang our hats on. 

I do not envy TF at all for trying to rebuild this roster into a contender. This team needs so much help. 

 

Your going to get roasted, you know that right?

You are correct on your assessment of Ridders performance, and had he balled out there would be 100 posts talking about how we have our QB of the future, but alas and criticism of Ridder will not be tolerated by the masses at this point. I mean some even saw Matt Ryan like poise. He did get better as the game progressed, but Smith essentially took the game away from him and started to pound the ball, which is how they should have started the game. When you run the ball on 3rd and 13, you know that the coach doesn't fully trust him with the ball in his hands.

However it was 1 single game, and the 1st start in his career and nothing can be determined at this point (again, unless he played well). The play calls and route running was abysmal, so there is that to factor as well and the pass blocking was pretty horrible as well. AS coming out and throwing deep balls flat out fooled nobody, and to be perfectly honest those balls were terribly thrown. They were way off the mark and had too much air under them.

A lot to take in next week as it gets no easier, but the theme needs to be "improvement needed".

[Drunken Minotaur Zebra]

29 minutes ago, FalconsFanSince194eva said:

He did not look bad even for a rookie, I swear Matt has ****** up y’all perception of what a rookie is like. Its been 14 years and I bet yall have watched only a handful of games on rookie Qb first starts. 

^^^ 100% this

 

people had Matt Ryan hate syndrome (MRHS) and thought we could just pick up any QB and he'd do better... now their expectations are all ****** up 

[Swayzee]

24 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

It was a bad performance in the main, but some things to consider.

1). The defense put us in a 14-0 hole.  Ridder's first series was a 3-out, and that is not something that should be unexpected.  The defense did nothing at all to help him out early.

2). While his decision making early was bad, and he was making some throws against leverage, once he settled down and got going it was a LOT better.

3). He made the play on 4th down to move the chains.  That's a winner.  He stepped up when the team needed him most and London got the ball popped out.  Sometimes the other team makes a play, but a bad result is not the same as a bad play, and Ridder did not throw a headache ball to London.  He put it straight on the money.

4). The coaching staff is talking about his leadership and command of the offense.  That's not a small thing at all.  At some point he needs to step up his play, but he really did in the 2nd half.  It didn't turn out the way we wanted, and it was inconsistent, but I'd wager now that the rust is knocked off and his nerves are more settled, he'll start to look better.

Sometimes you can't just look at the stat line and the results of the game.  None of us were happy about how the game started or ended, nor much in between.  But there are reasons for optimism with Ridder, starting with this -- in his first ever NFL start he clawed his way back and made plays to put us in a position to win.  He made plays that hurt us too, obviously.  But he never gave up and when it counted the most, when the pressure was on the most, he did his job.  That's something to build on.

Well said.