SB Nation: What Falcons fans can expect from Desmond Ridder in his first NFL start

[dirtybirds233]

Excellent article here with some good film breakdown. Long story short - rookie QBs struggle more often than not but Ridder has all of the tools (both physical and intangible) to be a very good NFL QB. 

https://www.sbnation.com/2022/12/15/23508982/desmond-ridder-atlanta-falcons-nfl-marcus-mariota?_gl=1*18qh95p*

[Wjcorner]

300 yards 3 TDs, a heated exchange with Cam Jordan followed by a stiff arm in the open field, and a dirty bird in the end zone 🧐

[Bunchy Carter]

23 minutes ago, Wjcorner said:

300 yards 3 TDs, a heated exchange with Cam Jordan followed by a stiff arm in the open field, and a dirty bird in the end zone 🧐

This is all I ask for 🤣

[TheTrue7]

25 minutes ago, Wjcorner said:

300 yards 3 TDs, a heated exchange with Cam Jordan followed by a stiff arm in the open field, and a dirty bird in the end zone 🧐

[Killing Floor]

No butt pass. No red zone fumble. All passes within 10’ of intended receiver. Recognize which receiver gives the best chance at maximum yards. 
 

That’s all I ask. 

[TheUsualStuff]

After throwing his 3rd TD pass, he will entertain his offensive line by laying on his back like this in a dramatic recreation of the famous Mariota butt pass...

[Falcons_Frenzy]

No butt passes. 

[FalconsFanSince194eva]

44 minutes ago, Wjcorner said:

300 yards 3 TDs, a heated exchange with Cam Jordan followed by a stiff arm in the open field, and a dirty bird in the end zone 🧐

Im about to…….

 

[gazoo]

1 hour ago, dirtybirds233 said:

Excellent article here with some good film breakdown. Long story short - rookie QBs struggle more often than not but Ridder has all of the tools (both physical and intangible) to be a very good NFL QB. 

https://www.sbnation.com/2022/12/15/23508982/desmond-ridder-atlanta-falcons-nfl-marcus-mariota?_gl=1*18qh95p*

That an outstanding article with video clips. It displays exactly what I’ve been say8mg about Ridders reads, how well he sees the field in a multi dimensional fashion, how decisive he is. It shows his high football IQ.

Many here don’t think that’s important, they just want a QB who can run really fast, so their best video will be the first one. That might win over the Mariota minions. 
 

I can see the board finally coming together since the Vick days of the runners vs the pocket passers who can dissect defenses from the pocket.  The running QB fans will get to see Ridder rip one off ever now and then to satisfy their primitive instincts,  and the pocket QB fans who know pocket QBs win Super Bowls will also be happy.

One thing Brock Purdy brings to the NFL is this high football IQ. Brock played 48 games in college in a pro style offense and demonstrated an ability to make his reads, go through his progressions and get the ball out, and now look at him. He’s got a legitimate chance of being a starting QB in the Super Bowl.

That last clip shows Ridder with a pass or run choice once he’s out of the pocket. He has 20 yards of space in front of him and a possible running TD, but he chooses to throw a perfects pass to his TE who is crossing the field for a TD. I like his choice, I will take the pass over a QB run every time as it helps keep him healthy. Josh Allen is taking way too many hits running the ball, the time will come when those catch up to him.

[Mister pudding]

I think for the most part, we keep things safe. Keep running the footbal, a few screen passes, and play action. 

Ridder will thrive if we can stick to that game plan. 

[PriMeTiiMe]

3 minutes ago, Mister pudding said:

I think for the most part, we keep things safe. Keep running the footbal, a few screen passes, and play action. 

Ridder will thrive if we can stick to that game plan. 

Yeah I don't expect Arthur to come out just slinging it. We likely will play it very safe Sunday in his 1st start. 

[EddieK]

If he doesn't pass for 550 yards with 5 TDs and rush for another 250 yards and 2 TDs in this game, he's a bust in my book

[dirtybirds233]

14 minutes ago, gazoo said:

That an outstanding article with video clips. It displays exactly what I’ve been say8mg about Ridders reads, how well he sees the field in a multi dimensional fashion, how decisive he is. It shows his high football IQ.

Many here don’t think that’s important, they just want a QB who can run really fast, so their best video will be the first one. That might win over the Mariota minions. 
 

I can see the board finally coming together since the Vick days of the runners vs the pocket passers who can dissect defenses from the pocket.  The running QB fans will get to see Ridder rip one off ever now and then to satisfy their primitive instincts,  and the pocket QB fans who know pocket QBs win Super Bowls will also be happy.

One thing Brock Purdy brings to the NFL is this high football IQ. Brock played 48 games in college in a pro style offense and demonstrated an ability to make his reads, go through his progressions and get the ball out, and now look at him. He’s got a legitimate chance of being a starting QB in the Super Bowl.

That last clip shows Ridder with a pass or run choice once he’s out of the pocket. He has 20 yards of space in front of him and a possible running TD, but he chooses to throw a perfects pass to his TE who is crossing the field for a TD. I like his choice, I will take the pass over a QB run every time as it helps keep him healthy. Josh Allen is taking way too many hits running the ball, the time will come when those catch up to him.

That IQ (or the intangibles as some say) is what sold me on him pre-draft. In watching 3-4 game reels for that QB class, Ridder was the only one that stood out to me as a QB that actually sits in the pocket, goes through his reads, adjusted the offense based on the defensive look, and wasn't aided by constant one-read looks or solely relied on his athleticism to make plays. 

The foundation is there for him and I think he's going to end up being a pretty good QB once he adjusts to the speed of an NFL defense. 

[gazoo]

5 minutes ago, Mister pudding said:

I think for the most part, we keep things safe. Keep running the footbal, a few screen passes, and play action. 

Ridder will thrive if we can stick to that game plan. 

If the defense keeps stacking the box every snap, crowding the LOS, I look forward to Ridder seeing the coverages, hitting the right reads for passes that end up with big chunk plays. Doesn’t even have to be a long throw, just needs to be the right read to the right part of the field where the receiver has open field in front of him to make the defense pay. 

[dodge_birds_fan]

13 minutes ago, EddieK said:

If he doesn't pass for 550 yards with 5 TDs and rush for another 250 yards and 2 TDs in this game, he's a bust in my book

Troffed...... smh

[gazoo]

1 minute ago, dirtybirds233 said:

That IQ (or the intangibles as some say) is what sold me on him pre-draft. In watching 3-4 game reels for that QB class, Ridder was the only one that stood out to me as a QB that actually sits in the pocket, goes through his reads, adjusted the offense based on the defensive look, and wasn't aided by constant one-read looks or solely relied on his athleticism to make plays. 

The foundation is there for him and I think he's going to end up being a pretty good QB once he adjusts to the speed of an NFL defense. 

This is what has been driving me crazy around here lately with the running QB fans. The insufferable “if we pass up on this can’t miss QB it will set us back a generation” type posts where they are infatuated with a QBs scrambling ability in college, most times from a QB who played in an RPO offense. The bust risk is enormous with this type of QB.

Josh Allen was one who became proficient at reading defenses after entering the NFL. It took him 3 years of starting, but he picked it up pretty good. But he’s an anomaly. Others loving running QBs point to him as if they all can do it. Few can.

I will say there was one other QB in the draft who possessed these high football IQ qualities and that was Brock Purdy. Interesting enough he may be a starting QB in this years Super Bowl. 

[dirtybirds233]

21 minutes ago, gazoo said:

This is what has been driving me crazy around here lately with the running QB fans. The insufferable “if we pass up on this can’t miss QB it will set us back a generation” type posts where they are infatuated with a QBs scrambling ability in college, most times from a QB who played in an RPO offense. The bust risk is enormous with this type of QB.

Josh Allen was one who became proficient at reading defenses after entering the NFL. It took him 3 years of starting, but he picked it up pretty good. But he’s an anomaly. Others loving running QBs point to him as if they all can do it. Few can.

I will say there was one other QB in the draft who possessed these high football IQ qualities and that was Brock Purdy. Interesting enough he may be a starting QB in this years Super Bowl. 

Folks see flashy highlights and gaudy stats and think that's just going to translate into the NFL without taking the speed of NFL defenses or the offensive systems into account. 

I think Matt Ryan's another good example. His leadership and football IQ were lauded in college, but there were concerns about his accuracy and high interception numbers. His overall stats were even below Brian Brohm. Guess who had the better career. 

All that to say, this article isn't saying Ridder will be a great QB, just that the foundation for him to be is there. 

Edited December 16, 2022 by dirtybirds233

[gazoo]

17 minutes ago, dirtybirds233 said:

All that to say, this article isn't saying Ridder will be a great QB, just that the foundation for him to be is there. 

Yep, that’s my position, I see some of the traits in Ridder that the greats have. While not dispositive, it certainly increases his chances of making it at this level.

I think the kid has a really good shot and am super excited to see him play the next 4 games.  I’m not looking for perfection or greatness these last 4 games, I’m looking for trends and to see how he reacts to certain situations. I’d be fine if he didn’t take off and run a single time.

[PriMeTiiMe]

9 minutes ago, gazoo said:

Yep, that’s my position, I see some of the traits in Ridder that the greats have. While not dispositive, it certainly increases his chances of making it at this level.

I think the kid has a really good shot and am super excited to see him play the next 4 games.  I’m not looking for perfection or greatness these last 4 games, I’m looking for trends and to see how he reacts to certain situations. I’d be fine if he didn’t take off and run a single time.

I hope the Saints send the house at him all game with a variety of different pressure packages. 

See what the kid has. He either got it or he don't.

[ADAMSVILLE GYM]

47 minutes ago, gazoo said:

I will say there was one other QB in the draft who possessed these high football IQ qualities and that was Brock Purdy. 

Let me guess, you "been saying this all season". Right?

[Sui_Generis]

7 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said:

I hope the Saints send the house at him all game with a variety of different pressure packages. 

See what the kid has. He either got it or he don't.

And if he doesn't have it this game, I believe he will eventually see enough of it to improve. He is going to go into this offseason even hungrier. 

[gazoo]

19 minutes ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said:

Let me guess, you "been saying this all season". Right?

No. I had no idea who Brock Purdy was until I saw him start as a rookie and deal the GOAT Tom Brady his 3rd worse loss of his career.  With Brock having been passed over 261 times by teams in the draft, I wanted to see what qualities he possessed that could have allowed this to happen.

And there you have it, he spent 4 seasons with 48 games in a pro style offense proving himself capable of making his reads, going through his progressions and delivering that ball from the pocket. Z

Any further questions I can help you with junior?

[dirtybirds233]

28 minutes ago, PriMeTiiMe said:

I hope the Saints send the house at him all game with a variety of different pressure packages. 

See what the kid has. He either got it or he don't.

What was that wild stat....Ridder had 20 TDs to 1 INT when being being blitzed?

Someone posted it in another thread yesterday I believe.

[Falcons Fan MVP]

1 hour ago, gazoo said:

If the defense keeps stacking the box every snap, crowding the LOS, I look forward to Ridder seeing the coverages, hitting the right reads for passes that end up with big chunk plays. Doesn’t even have to be a long throw, just needs to be the right read to the right part of the field where the receiver has open field in front of him to make the defense pay. 

Too bad Kyle Pitts won't be there to help him.  That would have made a big difference.

[NorthGaBoy]

I really like Ridder's processing time.  I don't think any of the recordings in that link showed him standing in the pocket for 2 seconds.  By the 2 second mark, the ball was in the air or Ridder was running downfield.  If I were a DC, I would not be anxious to send more than 3 or 4 to the QB. 

I do not expect a Brock Purdy level performance, really, who could.  I don't expect Brock to do that again.  But, I think Ridder will be impressive.  His greatest asset is his analysis and dissection of the defense in a very short period of time.