Cool article about our future

[Slickwillie757]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/falcons-have-the-best-post-tom-brady-future-in-the-nfc-south-meet-me-at-the-logo-222401675.html

I just read this article on yahoo. It’s pretty hard to argue with anything in this article. I know a lot of us are excited for this coming week to see what Ridder has to offer going forward. The last sentence was also great lol. The future is bright everyone, it’s an exciting time to be a Falcons fan. 

[RING OF HONOR]

[ItsJustMe]

I like the writer's enthusiasm and I believe there are valid points in the article 

[Slickwillie757]

1 minute ago, ItsJustMe said:

I like the writer's enthusiasm and I believe there are valid points in the article 

I completely agree. I also loved his feelings about Saints fans too 😂

[Dark Bird Rising]

Nothing I didn't already know, I've said from the beginning of March 2022, that we will be a team of force in 2023 when we could spend money this team has never had, this is uncharted territory for the Falcons and much has been learned by AS and TF these 2 years as they lay the foundation of winning. As Deion Sanders said, we're coming!

[Killing Floor]

Great. Let’s go. 
Another year is a gone but it will be worth it if we earn a winning record sometime soon.  That’s all we’re waiting for. 
 

I particularly love the optimism that Kyle Pitts will be playing soon. Even barring the injury there were 4-5 extra wins just waiting around for the team to get the ball to its best players. Consistently overlooking London and Pitts isn’t related to cap position.  Ridder might be great or not, but the decision should have been made long ago. 
 

Finally my faith remains high that as long as TATF posts articles from Yahoo there will always be Yahoo. 

[Serge]

It's exciting, but they could screw it all up pretty easily going for a few big free-agents that fail to have a transformative impact on either side of the ball. They're almost obligated to take at least one big swing, but they might opt for more short-term deals in the near term while they continue to build through the draft and figure out what they have. You just can't realistically go all-in unless you know you have your quarterback, and we're about as far as we could possibly be from that kind of certainty.

[HASHBROWN3]

It’s a no brainer that with legit QB play we have at least 3 more wins.

The fact that our coach cannot call pass plays to our WR weapons in really sad.

[Swayzee]

5 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

It’s a no brainer that with legit QB play we have at least 3 more wins.

The fact that our coach cannot call pass plays to our WR weapons in really sad.

It is, but the coach is the one that played the QB and that is all on him. 

Everything from the signing, to playing him all season long, is all on AS. So you make your bed you lie in it, right?

[Serge]

2 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

It’s a no brainer that with legit QB play we have at least 3 more wins.

The fact that our coach cannot call pass plays to our WR weapons in really sad.

We'd probably have three more wins against lousy teams, which'd put us in line to win the division, but we'd be dead meat in the playoffs. Most of our wins have been against teams missing at least one crucial part of their defense. We're presently playing a low-floor/low-ceiling brand of football on both sides of the ball, because that's what you do when you don't have a roster with a high ceiling.

[Freddies 3rd Cuz]

12 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

It’s a no brainer that with legit QB play we have at least 3 more wins.

The fact that our coach cannot call pass plays to our WR weapons in really sad.

lol if you can't understand what Arty is doing. Per the article AS is a great play caller.

I'm pretty sure he has a QB that can't get the ball to the WR weapons.

I hope you realize what we have in AS...he’s going to be here a long time. 

[Freddies 3rd Cuz]

7 minutes ago, Serge said:

We'd probably have three more wins against lousy teams, which'd put us in line to win the division, but we'd be dead meat in the playoffs. Most of our wins have been against teams missing at least one crucial part of their defense. We're presently playing a low-floor/low-ceiling brand of football on both sides of the ball, because that's what you do when you don't have a roster with a high ceiling.

Well said Serge. It's not rocket science. Idk why many here don't get it 🤷‍♂️

[HASHBROWN3]

2 minutes ago, Serge said:

We'd probably have three more wins against lousy teams, which'd put us in line to win the division, but we'd be dead meat in the playoffs. Most of our wins have been against teams missing at least one crucial part of their defense. We're presently playing a low-floor/low-ceiling brand of football on both sides of the ball, because that's what you do when you don't have a roster with a high ceiling.

This is obvious to everyone. IDC about the division this year or the playoffs this year. We were picked to win 2 games…literally!

I care about our future division & overall NFL performances. I think most TATF posters are not measuring this year’s team by wins/losses but rather see the potential as the article states.

A few key acquisitions along with calmer QB play & another good draft is quite promising. Not to mention AS being able to include passing as part of his scheme.

You say “a few more wins against lousy teams” & yet the Falcs were assigned  the leagues “hardest SOS”. Let that sink in. And still we literally gave away 3-4 games. We’re already competing fiercely with two thirds or three quarters of the league while carrying the leagues worst financial/CAP situation. 

Regarding your low floor, low ceiling roster comment, this is where our attitude towards the team differ. You look at it as a bad omen & I see it as reason for hope & excitement. Many of these guys won’t be starting in our short term future & look how hard they play. Our staff patched together a team whose mostly been a play or two away from leading the division after cutting away all the fat.

The

future 

is 

bright

[HASHBROWN3]

16 minutes ago, Freddies 3rd Cuz said:

lol if you can't understand what Arty is doing. Per the article AS is a great play caller.

I'm pretty sure he has a QB that can't get the ball to the WR weapons.

I hope you realize what we have in AS...he’s going to be here a long time. 

That’s exactly what I was suggesting when I posted. He can’t call plays to the WRs consistently BECAUSE OF THE QB. We are in lockstep buddy

[Serge]

1 minute ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

This is obvious to everyone. IDC about the division this year or the playoffs this year. We were picked to win 2 games…literally!

I care about our future division & overall NFL performances. I think most TATF posters are not measuring this year’s team by wins/losses but rather see the potential as the article states.

A few key acquisitions along with calmer QB play & another good draft is quite promising. Not to mention AS being able to include passing as part of his scheme.

You say “a few more wins against lousy teams” & yet the Falcs were assigned  the leagues “hardest SOS”. Let that sink in. And still we literally gave away 3-4 games. We’re already competing fiercely with two thirds or three quarters of the league while carrying the leagues worst financial/CAP situation. 

Regarding your low floor, low ceiling roster comment, this is where our attitude towards the team differ. You look at it as a bad omen & I see it as reason for hope & excitement. Many of these guys won’t be starting in our short term future & look how hard they play. Our staff patched together a team whose mostly been a play or two away from leading the division after cutting away all the fat.

The

future 

is 

bright

I didn't say we were in a terrible spot, because we are about to be able to build the roster up in a way that we haven't been able to do since 2016. But we are a 5-8 team, and two of our wins were against teams missing their star pass rushers. Two others were close games at home against Carolina and Chicago. The other was against Seattle missing their top three cornerbacks. We can get there, but we are not presently a quarterback away from being able to compete with Philly or Dallas in a playoff game.

[HASHBROWN3]

1 hour ago, Swayzee said:

It is, but the coach is the one that played the QB and that is all on him. 

Everything from the signing, to playing him all season long, is all on AS. So you make your bed you lie in it, right?

Of course he played him. Waiting until now isn’t being negligent but rather the way he chose to bring a 3rd rounder along in a healthy manner. It’s only like 2-3 games later than the Steelers 1st rounder right? Geesh bro 😀

Are you suggesting he should have kept Ryan? Or chosen some other mediocre QB instead of Mariota? 
AS & all of us fans were delighted to move on from MR & cut bait in order to begin the retooling in Atlanta.

Marcus served his purpose here bro. He held the fort down while his future QB watched, listened & learned. Mariota knew the scheme & was the right “type” of QB in it.

Mariota’s familiarity with the O, his upside, his running ability & his character were check marks in the plus column in the decision making process over other lousy options that might have come at a higher expense to the team.

Please stop PRETENDING that AS had stars in his eyes over this temporary fill-in. Any upside or growth was always/only going to be a possibility.  For you to continue to PRETEND AS isn’t or wasn’t fully prepared to make himself accountable for any ROI is an insult to this board’s intelligence.

Your comments are nothing but a straw man because you’re nothing but a spectator. You hold zero authority over AS as the Owner or GM. A phrase such as “he made his bed, now he must lie in it” is the height of inconsiderate & doesn’t come close to matching the reality of where we are given what was inherited. You come across as smug as if you’re a dog owner rubbing your pets nose in it.

Closer examination on your part deserves a much more long-suffering & tolerant reaction imo. AS is closer to making lemonade from lemons than he is deserving of a beating. I’ll answer your question with my rhetorical one… Do you feel like you’re take should be classified as coming more from that of a pompous onlooker or from a place of cautious optimism?

 

[HASHBROWN3]

22 minutes ago, Serge said:

I didn't say we were in a terrible spot, because we are about to be able to build the roster up in a way that we haven't been able to do since 2016. But we are a 5-8 team, and two of our wins were against teams missing their star pass rushers. Two others were close games at home against Carolina and Chicago. The other was against Seattle missing their top three cornerbacks. We can get there, but we are not presently a quarterback away from being able to compete with Philly or Dallas in a playoff game.

Nobody thinks we’re only a QB away lol. You’re being narrow minded I think.

[falcndave]

1 hour ago, Serge said:

It's exciting, but they could screw it all up pretty easily going for a few big free-agents that fail to have a transformative impact on either side of the ball. They're almost obligated to take at least one big swing, but they might opt for more short-term deals in the near term while they continue to build through the draft and figure out what they have. You just can't realistically go all-in unless you know you have your quarterback, and we're about as far as we could possibly be from that kind of certainty.

The only position they have demonstrated they are willing to take a big swing at is QB. If Ridder plays better than expected (I think the organization truly expects "quality backujp" play) or if Jackson is not on the market, I think our chances of overspending there drop to near zero. I expect for them to go for "above average" sytems fits in the trenches on both sides of the ball as opposed to going after elite guys. 

[Killing Floor]

I'd love to see us swing at Edge and S.  Center too but I'm not sure who would be available there, that seems like a risk position because of the relationship.  Ridder has long arms so he might be fine picking up Dalman's grounders.  Personally though I would rather gamble on edge and secondary as immediate impacts.  I still secretly believe our guards and tackles can develop.  

Then I can focus on the draft Bijan threads coming soon.

[Swayzee]

33 minutes ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

Of course he played him. Waiting until now isn’t being negligent but rather the way he chose to bring a 3rd rounder along in a healthy manner. It’s only like 2-3 games later than the Steelers 1st rounder right? Geesh bro 😀

Are you suggesting he should have kept Ryan? Or chosen some other mediocre QB instead of Mariota? 
AS & all of us fans were delighted to move on from MR & cut bait in order to begin the retooling in Atlanta.

Marcus served his purpose here bro. He held the fort down while his future QB watched, listened & learned. Mariota knew the scheme & was the right “type” of QB in it.

Mariota’s familiarity with the O, his upside, his running ability & his character were check marks in the plus column in the decision making process over other lousy options that might have come at a higher expense to the team.

Please stop PRETENDING that AS had stars in his eyes over this temporary fill-in. Any upside or growth was always/only going to be a possibility.  For you to continue to PRETEND AS isn’t or wasn’t fully prepared to make himself accountable for any ROI is an insult to this board’s intelligence.

Your comments are nothing but a straw man because you’re nothing but a spectator. You hold zero authority over AS as the Owner or GM. A phrase such as “he made his bed, now he must lie in it” is the height of inconsiderate & doesn’t come close to matching the reality of where we are given what was inherited. You come across as smug as if you’re a dog owner rubbing your pets nose in it.

Closer examination on your part deserves a much more long-suffering & tolerant reaction imo. AS is closer to making lemonade from lemons than he is deserving of a beating. I’ll answer your question with my rhetorical one… Do you feel like you’re take should be classified as coming more from that of a pompous onlooker or from a place of cautious optimism?

 

So if Ridder plays like we all hope he does, and we just lost 2 straight games due to Mariota ****ting the bed in crucial spots, then we are just going to use the narrative that is was his plan?

Please...

[Slickwillie757]

2 hours ago, Dark Bird Rising said:

Nothing I didn't already know, I've said from the beginning of March 2022, that we will be a team of force in 2023 when we could spend money this team has never had, this is uncharted territory for the Falcons and much has been learned by AS and TF these 2 years as they lay the foundation of winning. As Deion Sanders said, we're coming!

Same but it’s nice to have those feelings verified by people outside this message board. I know there’s been some frustrations this season, but it’s nice to know what we have to look forward to going into the future. Things could certainly go wrong, but we’re in a position to have a lot of success depending how the next couple seasons go. Definitely a better feeling that how most Aints fans probably feel right now about their future. 

[HASHBROWN3]

44 minutes ago, Swayzee said:

So if Ridder plays like we all hope he does, and we just lost 2 straight games due to Mariota ****ting the bed in crucial spots, then we are just going to use the narrative that is was his plan?

Please...

Meh

[Serge]

1 minute ago, Slickwillie757 said:

Same but it’s nice to have those feelings verified by people outside this message board. I know there’s been some frustrations this season, but it’s nice to know what we have to look forward to going into the future. Things could certainly go wrong, but we’re in a position to have a lot of success depending how the next couple seasons go. Definitely a better feeling that how most Aints fans probably feel right now about their future. 

Fontenot was right to trade Ryan and eat the cap hit while we didn't have a whole roster worth building around. Putting a roster together this season would have been more complicated if we had to figure out how to absorb Ryan's cap hit without cutting useful guys, absorbing their cap hits, and having less cap space to work going forward with while needing more guys to fill the new holes. It's promising that the team is as competitive as it is despite them not really even having an opportunity to do anything with the roster yet, and there's an obvious window for improvement next year. However, it does remain to be seen if Fontenot's as good at building as he is deconstruction.

[HASHBROWN3]

1 hour ago, Serge said:

I didn't say we were in a terrible spot, because we are about to be able to build the roster up in a way that we haven't been able to do since 2016. But we are a 5-8 team, and two of our wins were against teams missing their star pass rushers. Two others were close games at home against Carolina and Chicago. The other was against Seattle missing their top three cornerbacks. We can get there, but we are not presently a quarterback away from being able to compete with Philly or Dallas in a playoff game.

Good points btw

[Freddies 3rd Cuz]

2 hours ago, HASHBROWN3 said:

That’s exactly what I was suggesting when I posted. He can’t call plays to the WRs consistently BECAUSE OF THE QB. We are in lockstep buddy

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