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Just now, Norwood all the way! said:

I think it's bigger to point out that a lot of ppl owe Mcgary an apology. Guy is top 10. 

Though I know it's only 1 year. Most of us knew Lindstrom was going to be good. 

When Lindstrom was drafted, I got it. He was never ‘bad’. McGary was a head scratcher for me in the first. He had some rough stretches, he was scouted as mostly a run blocking OL; so it stands to reason he would perform better in this system. 

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2 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said:

 

I mean that is the player he was then. Was anyone wrong that said something negative at the time?

Not speaking about Lindstrom in this case, but if a dude plays like **** for say 5 years and then balls out in year 6, does that absolve years 1-5? No, or it shouldn't at least.

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6 minutes ago, Norwood all the way! said:

I think it's bigger to point out that a lot of ppl owe Mcgary an apology. Guy is top 10. 

Though I know it's only 1 year. He needs to show it wasn't a fluke. Most of us knew Lindstrom was going to be good. 

Again why, the dude has sucked in every single season. Having a marginally good year in your contract season tells me nothing except 1) maybe they finally got it. Or 2) they were lazy and only put the work in when $$ was on the line. I think McGary is the latter if I am being honest.

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Just now, Swayzee said:

I mean that is the player he was then. Was anyone wrong that said something negative at the time?

Not speaking about Lindstrom in this case, but if a dude plays like **** for say 5 years and then balls out in year 6, does that absolve years 1-5? No, or it shouldn't at least.

Lindstrom performed well last year and people were saying he was “overrated”. Which has been proven to be false. OL is one more difficult position groups to get acclimated to in the NFL.

If you’re not speaking about Lindstrom in your second paragraph. How does it relate?

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10 minutes ago, TheTrue7 said:

Wait.. weren’t you complaining about people judging the legendary QB class too early? But it’s okay for lineman? Calling them what they currently are?

Edited due to unnecessary response to poster.

Clean version:

Do you see me commenting in that thread?

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12 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said:

When Lindstrom was drafted, I got it. He was never ‘bad’. McGary was a head scratcher for me in the first. He had some rough stretches, he was scouted as mostly a run blocking OL; so it stands to reason he would perform better in this system. 

Yeah, his PFF pass blocking grades are:

2019: 52.8

2020: 58.5

2021: 50.6

2022: 66.2

So, this is the first year he's pass-blocked at anything resembling an acceptable level. He deserves credit for his run-blocking improvement, though. His grades are:

2019: 53.9

2020: 65.9

2021: 72.2

2022: 90.5

I remember talking about this at the start of last off-season. All our interior linemen are dramatically better at run-blocking than pass-blocking. That made it kind of easy to tell the kind of offense we'd run this year. McGary has taken to it better than any of the interior players other than Lindstrom, though.

All this leads me to say that 1) I hope we don't re-sign McGary to some big-number extension and 2) Lindstrom is on a Hall of Fame trajectory.

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Lindstrom is really good. The oline has been better this season. Especially run blocking, but even when passing, Marcus has had time for the most part, but he just takes forever to make a decision and it's usually late when he does. 

I don't think the Oline is gonna change as drastically as everyone thinks it will next season. People write young olinemen off to fast.

I believe they are expecting Dalman to grow into his roll. He's taking his lumps this season, but he is still young for a olineman and will still get a lot better hopefully. They hope he makes a jump next year, but they will probably have him some competition as always.

Mcgary is one they could resign or replace. I wouldn't be shocked to see him resigned though, if they can get him cheap, but they probably bring in another vet to compete also.

The LG spots the biggest glaring hole still. Be interesting to see what they do there. Keep one of these guys and bring in some new blood there is probably the route. Just like at RT.

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Swayzee said:

Again why, the dude has sucked in every single season. Having a marginally good year in your contract season tells me nothing except 1) maybe they finally got it. Or 2) they were lazy and only put the work in when $$ was on the line. I think McGary is the latter if I am being honest.

Yeah it's possible. But he at least put in the work this year. To go from barely average to top 10 is a feat still. It doesn't necessarily indicate long term success. Just giving him props for this yr. 

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Lindstrom has been great.

Oh, and McGary isn't a flash in the pan. I'll die on the McGary hill if I have to. It isn't about the contract year. He showed some serious flashes leading up. Never had effort issues, just technique. He's finally in an offense that plays to his strengths. We might be able to lock him up for pennies on the dollar in the off-season, and if we can we should. I want to keep this OL group together if possible.

Though if we have to pay him some 15 mil plus contract...yeah, probably best to explore other avenues. 

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2 hours ago, DonDaLuvMaker said:

No......

 

Some of you owe......Dimitroff an apology. 

 

Who would've thought two of his final top draft picks would've went on to become top 10 offensive linemen.

It was always a TAFT myth about TD not being able to find good offensive linemen…he drafted Matthews, Lindstrom, McGarey, Wes Schweitzer (a 6th rounder), who was way better than he got credit for in here, UDFA RT Schraeder, Levite, signing Mack, etc etc.

DL was TD’s Achilles heel, not OL….

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