PapaJoe Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 What a weekend of chaos that was! I'm projecting the actual CFP rankings will be: 1. Georgia, 2. Michigan, 3. TCU, 4. USC [ My personal rankings as of now: 1. Georgia, 2. Michigan, 3. USC, 4. TCU ] After the top 4 it is literally crazy this season. The likely rankings after #4 do NOT/will not accurately reflect the capability of the teams to be the best in the nation at season end. I am really hoping now that TCU and USC don't stub their toes in the conference championships! If one or both of them fail to win out the rankings/debate of the rankings will be epic! If either one fails to win out... IMO the next best team is actually a 2-loss 'Bama. I didn't think there was any chance that 'Bama had a prayer of making CFP two weeks ago but now they do. Amazing. putnam6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Yeah, I'm thinking the committee is hoping for all chalk next weekend so that their decision is easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Agree with the top 4 and Ohio State is probably 5. TCU or USC slip and Ohio State is in. The chaos is if they both slip. UGA and Michigan are locked in IMO. Faithful Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For the A Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Bama should not be in the conversation for making the CFP. They should be right behind Tenn. Tenn won head to head. There was also a common opponent in LSU. Both games were at LSU, Bama lost and Tenn won. My top 7 would be UGA, Mich, TCU, USC, Ohio St, Tenn, Bama Faithful Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, For the A said: Bama should not be in the conversation for making the CFP. They should be right behind Tenn. Tenn won head to head. There was also a common opponent in LSU. Both games were at LSU, Bama lost and Tenn won. My top 7 would be UGA, Mich, TCU, USC, Ohio St, Tenn, Bama The thing that really hurts Tennessee is getting curb stomped by South Carolina but the win over Clemson helps. It'll be interesting to see #5-7 on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Ive always thought the selection committee decides on which core group and then has the final rankings, but it isn't totally based record and strength of schedule, don't they at some point have to go team X would likely beat team Y on a neutral field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, putnam6 said: Ive always thought the selection committee decides on which core group and then has the final rankings, but it isn't totally based record and strength of schedule, don't they at some point have to go team X would likely beat team Y on a neutral field. Points come from the committee ballots. They each make a ballot and teams get so many points from being ranked at certain places. It's all based solely on the perspective of the committee's opinion. No formulas, no analytics. Just watching games and looking at stats. They essentially do 4 team batches I believe. They start with who each person thinks is the top 4 and then go down all the way to 25. putnam6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Unknøwn said: Points come from the committee ballots. They each make a ballot and teams get so many points from being ranked at certain places. It's all based solely on the perspective of the committee's opinion. No formulas, no analytics. Just watching games and looking at stats. They essentially do 4 team batches I believe. They start with who each person thinks is the top 4 and then go down all the way to 25. Just asking questions, So everybody on the committee watches every game for at least those considered for the top 4? or do they just watch select games? condensed highlights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/espncfb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 6 hours ago, putnam6 said: Just asking questions, So everybody on the committee watches every game for at least those considered for the top 4? or do they just watch select games? condensed highlights? Yeah, they're supposed to be watching games from the top teams and studying results from the week. That's why the rankings are on Tuesday, it gives them a few days to go back and review things they couldn't catch live. I know on conference championship week they watch all the games together because the playoff teams are picked the following day. putnam6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 10 hours ago, putnam6 said: Ive always thought the selection committee decides on which core group and then has the final rankings, but it isn't totally based record and strength of schedule, don't they at some point have to go team X would likely beat team Y on a neutral field. They also take into account things like injuries to key players, like Hooker at Tennessee being out. It's these things (and history of doing so) that cause me to believe they will rank Alabama higher than Tenn. at this point in the process. putnam6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog357 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 10 hours ago, putnam6 said: https://www.instagram.com/espncfb/ So how would it have to play out for bama to get in? And what would those 4 cfp teams look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Wardog357 said: So how would it have to play out for bama to get in? And what would those 4 cfp teams look like? Thats the million dollar question. I've heard some analysts say they think TCU is a lock just because the committee doesn't want a 2 loss team getting in over a 1 loss runner up. If TCU is locked in then Bama would have to be ahead of Ohio State tomorrow to get in if USC loses to Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Unknøwn said: Thats the million dollar question. I've heard some analysts say they think TCU is a lock just because the committee doesn't want a 2 loss team getting in over a 1 loss runner up. If TCU is locked in then Bama would have to be ahead of Ohio State tomorrow to get in if USC loses to Utah. tomorrow's ranking will tell us anything.. however the committee can't use the eye test comment with bama because they have stunk in 5 games this year. they also can't use the it's about who you beat since bama has just 2 legit wins and those are over 4 loss teams. if bama gets in, it is due to bama bias and relationship of saban with members on the committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, SacFalcFan said: tomorrow's ranking will tell us anything.. however the committee can't use the eye test comment with bama because they have stunk in 5 games this year. they also can't use the it's about who you beat since bama has just 2 legit wins and those are over 4 loss teams. if bama gets in, it is due to bama bias and relationship of saban with members on the committee. I dont see Bama getting in personally. Even if the committee doesn't love Ohio State anymore, they went 11-1 with a loss to a top two team. That's a better look than 10-2 Bama with loses to two teams that lost two and three times. I think it's USC/Ohio State. I tend to agree that TCU is probably in regardless. A win and they're #3, a loss and they're #4. Which is big because it's the difference between playing UGA or Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 13 hours ago, putnam6 said: https://www.instagram.com/espncfb/ Get stomped by 22 at home against a team without their best player and still make it I guess. If USC and TCU win, they should be in. If TCU loses, they probably should still be in. Now if USC loses? Hold on. Gonna be interesting to see who number 5 is tomorrow. I’m thinking it’ll be Ohio State, but wouldn’t be shocked to see Alabama. Alabama’s only hope is to probably have Georgia win, Michigan lose then have USC lose too. If Michigan loses, I don’t see 2 teams from the same conference making it when neither one won their conference championship. Would kind of suck for Georgia to have to play Ohio State in the first round though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, SacFalcFan said: tomorrow's ranking will tell us anything.. however the committee can't use the eye test comment with bama because they have stunk in 5 games this year. they also can't use the it's about who you beat since bama has just 2 legit wins and those are over 4 loss teams. if bama gets in, it is due to bama bias and relationship of saban with members on the committee. I hope this is true. I hope there is a Bama bias. Let’s hope you’re right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcdirtybird Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, tl;dr said: I hope this is true. I hope there is a Bama bias. Let’s hope you’re right!!! He agrees with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, usmcdirtybird said: He agrees with you Oh God that guy is annoying lol. In reality, we don’t deserve to make the playoffs. I think most people would agree with that. Struggled to beat Texas, A&M, and Ole Miss then lost two games. Even if they were on the road and close, they still count as Ls. Could have lost to Arkansas if Bryce didn’t get us an early lead either. But hey, if we get a shot… you never know what can happen. Next year is going to be an interesting year for Alabama. If Golding and BoB are around, it’ll be more of the same and maybe even worse. If they go out and hire new coordinators, the talent is always there to be right back in the thick of the national title hunt. Gotta think Michigan, USC and Georgia is the early preseason top 3 next year in some order though. Wouldn’t be shocked (or even that upset) to see Alabama at 6 or 7 honestly usmcdirtybird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleFalcon01 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 23 hours ago, tl;dr said: Get stomped by 22 at home against a team without their best player and still make it I guess. If USC and TCU win, they should be in. If TCU loses, they probably should still be in. Now if USC loses? Hold on. Gonna be interesting to see who number 5 is tomorrow. I’m thinking it’ll be Ohio State, but wouldn’t be shocked to see Alabama. Alabama’s only hope is to probably have Georgia win, Michigan lose then have USC lose too. If Michigan loses, I don’t see 2 teams from the same conference making it when neither one won their conference championship. Would kind of suck for Georgia to have to play Ohio State in the first round though I'm not as concerned about this as I have been in the past. This is two years in a row where Ohio State has been run off the field by Michigan. The problem for them is that Georgia is everything Michigan is, but three times better. If they're getting blown off the field against Michigan, they're getting blown of the planet when they play the Bulldogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Not this season but the Rose Bowl might be excluded from the NY6 and CFP. Theyve been angling for a stronger position in the expanded playoffs while keeping ties to the Pac 12 and Big Ten. They have until tomorrow to agree to terms or they'll be dumped by the CFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 27 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: Not this season but the Rose Bowl might be excluded from the NY6 and CFP. Theyve been angling for a stronger position in the expanded playoffs while keeping ties to the Pac 12 and Big Ten. They have until tomorrow to agree to terms or they'll be dumped by the CFP. Good. Time to stop catering to a bowl game that excludes 3 of the 5 major conferences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, NashvilleFalcon01 said: I'm not as concerned about this as I have been in the past. This is two years in a row where Ohio State has been run off the field by Michigan. The problem for them is that Georgia is everything Michigan is, but three times better. If they're getting blown off the field against Michigan, they're getting blown of the planet when they play the Bulldogs. I’d be pretty surprised if Georgia doesn’t repeat honestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleFalcon01 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, tl;dr said: I’d be pretty surprised if Georgia doesn’t repeat honestly My only concern is if they draw Michigan in the title game and the young players on the team don't take them seriously because of what happened last year. Outside of that, I think they repeat as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleFalcon01 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 27 minutes ago, tl;dr said: Good. Time to stop catering to a bowl game that excludes 3 of the 5 major conferences Don't all of the former BCS bowl games (besides the Sugar Bowl) have conference ties that exclude 3 of the Power 5 conferences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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