DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mr.11 said: That's just American culture in general. We are an individualistic society--one that's driven by individual freedom, achievement, and competition. It has its pros and cons, but one of the ugly side-effects of it is this need to promote oneself or crown someone else over others. It may as a result have produced outstanding individual players and efforts, but it also tends to produce a toxic dog-eat-dog culture (like we all know about the parent(s) who are yelling at their kids coaches). Don't listen to his bull**** lol He says that but always glorifies Justin Fields, who hasn't done **** yet. Calls him a great QB when his play speaks otherwise. That goes against what he's saying now. He's contradicting himself. A Dog Named Brian and TheTrue7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, DonGonnaFindTFOut said: Don't listen to his bull**** lol He says that but always glorifies Justin Fields, who hasn't done **** yet. Calls him a great QB when his play speaks otherwise. That goes against what he's saying now. He's contradicting himself. There's a reason questions haven't been answered. DonDaLuvMaker and Godzilla1985 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, DonGonnaFindTFOut said: Don't listen to his bull**** lol He says that but always glorifies Justin Fields, who hasn't done **** yet. Calls him a great QB when his play speaks otherwise. That goes against what he's saying now. He's contradicting himself. Well yeah you got a point lol But I do agree with the last thing he said, even if he himself is guilty of feeding into it. DonDaLuvMaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr.11 said: Well yeah you got a point lol But I do agree with the last thing he said, even if he himself is guilty of feeding into it. Even an alcoholic can have a sober moment.... Mr.11 and gazoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Brian Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, midas_whale said: They might have though - just in the third instead of the first. Falcons could have two JF type players - since they signed a vet version too. I hear ya but Ridder and Fields are not the same QB… not by a long shot midas_whale and gazoo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I just love the fact that Fields still sucks as a quarterback but his fans are celebrating because he's no longer the worst qb in the NFL. JDaveG, gazoo and jidady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, A Dog Named Brian said: I hear ya but Ridder and Fields are not the same QB… not by a long shot He looked formidable in preseason and it would be great if he does so as a reg season starter. But it is at least as likely that he will be similar to or worse than Fields. A Dog Named Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, midas_whale said: He looked formidable in preseason and it would be great if he does so as a reg season starter. But it is at least as likely that he will be similar to or worse than Fields. Hard to directly compare apples and oranges. While they are both fruits, they are completely different. While they are both QBs, they are also completely different . A Dog Named Brian and midas_whale 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, gazoo said: Hard to directly compare apples and oranges. While they are both fruits, they are completely different. While they are both QBs, they are also completely different . Gazoo I admit they are hard to compare because there is an unequal amount of data on the two, but I think you can compare them accurately on a few factors. Both led their college teams to the playoffs. Both rely more heavily on their legs than traditional QBs. Neither is an NFL-caliber passer (Ridder might be one day but he's not now - not starting and they're reworking his footwork/mechanics). But Fields was drafted much higher, played in a stronger NCAAF conference. Believing that Ridder is possibly no better or even worse than Fields is not an unreasonable position. Highly unpopular no doubt, but I've seen much weaker takes on this Board on various issues. EDIT - Removed one Fields accomplishment because I think he's playing due to the starter being injured. Edited November 22, 2022 by midas_whale A Dog Named Brian and gazoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, midas_whale said: Gazoo I admit they are hard to compare because there is an unequal amount of data on the two, but I think you can compare them accurately on a few factors. Both led their college teams to the playoffs. Both rely more heavily on their legs than traditional QBs. Neither is an NFL-caliber passer (Ridder might be one day but he's not now - not starting and they're reworking his footwork/mechanics). But Fields was drafted much higher, played in a stronger NCAAF conference. Believing that Ridder is possibly no better or even worse than Fields is not an unreasonable position. Highly unpopular no doubt, but I've seen much weaker takes on this Board on various issues. EDIT - Removed one Fields accomplishment because I think he's playing due to the starter being injured. All valid points brother midas I think one of the more understated/unspoken differences is their intelligence, particularly their football IQ. Ridder is highly intelligent and processes things much faster, and I’ll just leave it at that to avoid triggering the brittle. midas_whale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrue7 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, midas_whale said: Gazoo I admit they are hard to compare because there is an unequal amount of data on the two, but I think you can compare them accurately on a few factors. Both led their college teams to the playoffs. Both rely more heavily on their legs than traditional QBs. Neither is an NFL-caliber passer (Ridder might be one day but he's not now - not starting and they're reworking his footwork/mechanics). But Fields was drafted much higher, played in a stronger NCAAF conference. Believing that Ridder is possibly no better or even worse than Fields is not an unreasonable position. Highly unpopular no doubt, but I've seen much weaker takes on this Board on various issues. EDIT - Removed one Fields accomplishment because I think he's playing due to the starter being injured. midas_whale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, abcranford2 said: I just love the fact that Fields still sucks as a quarterback but his fans are celebrating because he's no longer the worst qb in the NFL. He's moved up to second-worst! At his current rate of progression, he'll be the best QB in the league in 30 years! gazoo and Godzilla1985 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 19 hours ago, gazoo said: All valid points brother midas I think one of the more understated/unspoken differences is their intelligence, particularly their football IQ. Ridder is highly intelligent and processes things much faster, and I’ll just leave it at that to avoid triggering the brittle. Gets a lot of weight for sure. The more complex any job is, the more weight it gets, and obviously QB is one of the most complicated on the field. gazoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 18 hours ago, TheTrue7 said: LOL Well if you believe the BCS geniuses... TheTrue7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, midas_whale said: LOL Well if you believe the BCS geniuses... Yea...Ohio St is really the only good team in that conference. So Fields played in a terrible conference but was surrounded by elite talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 9:53 PM, DonGonnaFindTFOut said: Hate to hear that. That's why I'm not a fan of Fields playing the way that he does. He needs to become a better and more consistent passer. The Bears did him no favors last offseason with perhaps the worst team building in the league. Bringing in Matt Nagy for Fields' second season might prompt a change in direction for who they want under center. Unfortunately, if Nagy decides he wants someone else (like Cliff Kingsbury did), Fields' injury might give him an argument for making a change. Fields' situation is exactly why I wanted to build the team before bringing in a QB. It makes no sense to have a QB who can't develop for lack of talent around him. Heck, even if we'd gotten Watson, we'd have a depleted roster with no first or second round picks for the next 2 or 3 years. Add his $50 million salary, and we'd be the textbook example of a mediocre franchise for half a decade. At least now, we have a chance to be sustainably good within the next couple of years. DonDaLuvMaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I know this is a Fields thread, but I am thankful that the Falcons did not somehow end up with Zach Wilson. Baby Mahomes and Rodgers just got benched and will probably be a future Carolina panther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamb Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 6:01 PM, FalconsFan36 said: We had a strong run game last year as well. All I'm saying is that with Mariottas feet we've played much better because of the ability to stretch the field. Ok now you've lost me. What part of last year equated to a strong run game? Mister pudding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamb Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 6:07 PM, youngbloodz said: Nah it’s just directed at some people. They been hating on Fields ever since he transferred from UGA Been disliking his style of play since seeing at uga he was a one dimensional threat at qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 36 minutes ago, Atlantafan21 said: I know this is a Fields thread, but I am thankful that the Falcons did not somehow end up with Zach Wilson. Baby Mahomes and Rodgers just got benched and will probably be a future Carolina panther. Can you imagine being such a knob that your locker room implodes in spite of your winning record and your team being in the thick of the playoff race? Atlantafan21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 22 hours ago, jidady said: He's moved up to second-worst! At his current rate of progression, he'll be the best QB in the league in 30 years! Welp, with Wilson benched, Fields is back to being the worst starting QB! TheTrue7 and Atlantafan21 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 3:20 PM, SwampyMux12 said: If Mike Vick and Marcus Mariota had a baby... Wrap up the thread, this is the only take that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, JayOzOne said: Can you imagine being such a knob that your locker room implodes in spite of your winning record and your team being in the thick of the playoff race? Baker Mayfield (entitled white boy) effect. (no its not racist as I am a poor white boy and entitled to make fun of entitled white boys) JayOzOne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 12:27 PM, abcranford2 said: I just love the fact that Fields still sucks as a quarterback but his fans are celebrating because he's no longer the worst qb in the NFL. That whole QB class is looking like hot garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, JayOzOne said: Can you imagine being such a knob that your locker room implodes in spite of your winning record and your team being in the thick of the playoff race? The fact anyone was dumb enough to take him over JF blows me away. We will be saying the same thing about Trey Lance even when healthy. JayOzOne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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