DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, midas_whale said: That's fair to say. But Falcons won't be the only dumb-looking ones if he's LJ 2.0, since roughly a third of the league skipped right on by him. Also the difference is that despite Lamar Jackson running a lot, he doesn't take many hits and punishment. Fields on the other hand takes plenty of hits and punishment. At times more so than Cam Newton did. midas_whale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, midas_whale said: That's fair to say. But Falcons won't be the only dumb-looking ones if he's LJ 2.0, since roughly a third of the league skipped right on by him. Lamar still isn't a consistent passer. He got hyped up during his MVP season for what I don't know. His huge plays came against teams in the bottom 10 against the pass. His success came from short to intermediate throws that his playmakers turned into big plays. It was funny back then because one person kept talking about YPA yet didn't have a clue how it was calculated 😂 Brookings and DonDaLuvMaker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz28179 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) That one-handed catch by their tight end made fields have one more completion than he should have had. Edited November 21, 2022 by Blitz28179 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, DonGonnaFindTFOut said: Also the difference is that despite Lamar Jackson running a lot, he doesn't take many hits and punishment. Fields on the other hand takes plenty of hits and punishment. At times more so than Cam Newton did. Cam's one of those guys I loved to hate in his prime leading an arch rival. But I swear I feel sad for where he is today physically as a result of that style of play. Seems like a nice enough guy and his wardrobe off the field suggests he doesn't take himself too seriously. DonDaLuvMaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Tribal Chief said: Lamar still isn't a consistent passer. He got hyped up during his MVP season for what I don't know. His huge plays came against teams in the bottom 10 against the pass. His success came from short to intermediate throws that his playmakers turned into big plays. It was funny back then because one person kept talking about YPA yet didn't have a clue how it was calculated 😂 Yep, Lamar still struggles a lot pushing the ball down field. Ravens offense is dependent on many smoke and mirrors due to Lamar Jackson's ability to run. Ravens OC Greg Roman is overrated and I think aided in stunting Jackson's growth as a passer, but Jackson has to still step his game up when those opportunities present themselves. Herr Doktor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: Lamar still isn't a consistent passer. He got hyped up during his MVP season for what I don't know. His huge plays came against teams in the bottom 10 against the pass. His success came from short to intermediate throws that his playmakers turned into big plays. It was funny back then because one person kept talking about YPA yet didn't have a clue how it was calculated 😂 I have to admit not understanding a lot of the performance indicators tossed around these days. But my coping strategy is to never say anything about them. Tribal Chief, DonDaLuvMaker, Herr Doktor and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFan36 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Lornoth said: Bro maybe go take a breather and come back in and read your first post because you clearly don't know what you said anymore. You literally said we have a QB who looks way better than Ryan did last year. No mention of the team outside those two. You literally replied dumb late. That Convo has ended. I meant from a running perspective that this year he looks much better than the product we put out last year. That's it. I know what what I wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 16 hours ago, Falcons_Frenzy said: This saga is going to go for many years 😂 the way they're running him into the ground, Justin won't last very many years. That's not to say the good folk round about these parts won't STILL bring it up and talk about it, just not as much Falcons_Frenzy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, kenn.junior said: no we wouldnt cuz there are a million qbs in college that can be just as good as fields "Million QBs" lol okay. Zach Wilson looks real good out there. Wheres Trey Lance? Mac Jones? Trevor Lawrence? Kenny Pickett? Can go on and on. If you are going to pretend that every QB is just going to come in and light it up and be better than JF you have a very delusional take on how hard it is to play QB in the NFL at a high level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, midas_whale said: That's fair to say. But Falcons won't be the only dumb-looking ones if he's LJ 2.0, since roughly a third of the league skipped right on by him. Very true. The whole league passed on Lamar Jackson as well (including the Ravens) before they traded back up. midas_whale, Brookings and Herr Doktor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFan36 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Lornoth said: So despite never ceding a yard in this debate you've come full circle to say literally the opposite of what you started out saying. Good job. I said that the offense and the style of QB play looks better than last year. I'm not sure what you are trying to say here but my point still stands 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, midas_whale said: I have to admit not understanding a lot of the performance indicators tossed around these days. But my coping strategy is to never say anything about them. Most of us don't know what we're talking about. Just throwing things to see what sticks. But don't be that bold to try and prove you're smarter than an elephant Herr Doktor, Brookings, DonDaLuvMaker and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFan36 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, kenn.junior said: the colts OL has been awful this year regardless if matt played or not. they were trash the 2 games matt was on the bench. i think they had like 11 sacks in 2 games with ehlinger playing who is more mobile then ryan. the colts OL is trash But the narrative people created was that the colts had a monster O line and that he would be back to his MVP form. That's what I was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, FalconsFan36 said: But the narrative people created was that the colts had a monster O line and that he would be back to his MVP form. That's what I was talking about. Screw the narrative. What did you think? That's all that matters FalconsFan36 and Brookings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFan36 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, kenn.junior said: so many excuses yall give players he had a whole offseason to learn the system and its week 11 you think he doesnt understand the system by now? plus again another week he cant get pass 200 yards Excuses? So you saying Matt has a poor offensive line is not an excuse for him? That sounds convenient it really does. And you must be obsessed with Matt because you've LITERALLY replied to all of my post 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: Most of us don't know what we're talking about. Just throwing things to see what sticks. But don't be that bold to try and prove you're smarter than an elephant Exactly, some on here try to make it seem like they can be future SB winning HCs and GMs and are smarter than most lol Tribal Chief, papachaz and midas_whale 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 15 hours ago, Rings said: Yes he has. that one's spelled roll though instead of role Rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: Most of us don't know what we're talking about. Just throwing things to see what sticks. But don't be that bold to try and prove you're smarter than an elephant Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas_whale Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tribal Chief said: Most of us don't know what we're talking about. Just throwing things to see what sticks. But don't be that bold to try and prove you're smarter than an elephant YPA yippity yappity I do steer clear of the topics I know I don't know anything about. But sometimes I don't know that I don't know what I'm talking about. Tribal Chief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFan36 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Tribal Chief said: Screw the narrative. What did you think? That's all that matters That he hasn't performed up to the standard lots of people swore he would. Sure the Colts O line hasn't been great but that wasn't all the talk in the off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFan36 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, kenn.junior said: there is no way you thought the passing offense was gonna be like this No because Mariotta is a run first QB. He's has never been an accurate passer throughout his career and was never going to be that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, DonGonnaFindTFOut said: Exactly, some on here try to make it seem like they can be future SB winning HCs and GMs and are smarter than most lol The worst are the stat munchers who seem afraid to say what they actually see. Then you got the ones that have to provide 100 articles to back their opinion DonDaLuvMaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsFan36 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, kenn.junior said: our run game was terrible last year did you forget davis was our main rb. We still had CP who was primarily used as a runner and I think he broke a record last year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, midas_whale said: YPA yippity yappity I do steer clear of the topics I know I don't know anything about. But sometimes I don't know that I don't know what I'm talking about. Just know that if you feel you don’t know, there’s at least one person in said thread that you might know more than falconidae, midas_whale and papachaz 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, FalconsFan36 said: That he hasn't performed up to the standard lots of people swore he would. Sure the Colts O line hasn't been great but that wasn't all the talk in the off season Again, in this scenario, who’s opinion matters more. Yours or theirs? FalconsFan36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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