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Question: If a team claims to be "#1", "Top this or that", but come in with injuries and missing players, do they still have the right to be "#1", "Top this or that"?

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Part of being a top team (in any regard) is remaining healthy. Some injuries are out of your control; but taking care of your body in other ways is completely within a player’s capability. Compliment that with a possibility of overtraining from coaches and you have a recipe for disaster.

In the NFL, the best ability is availability. If a team has THAT many injuries; there are underlying reasons as to why.

You can insert the caveat of ‘when healthy’ “X” team is the top in “Y” category. However there’s no such thing as ‘healthy’ in the NFL. Every player deals with pain and injury to some extent. The NFL really is a battle of attrition.

With parity being the way it is it’s hard to say where the line is drawn. Do we win if they are ‘healthy’? Who is to say; it’s all speculation.

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12 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said:

IPart of being a top team (in any regard) is remaining healthy. Some injuries are out of your control; but taking care of your body in other ways is completely within a player’s capability. Compliment that with a possibility of overtraining from coaches and you have a recipe for disaster.

In the NFL, the best ability is availability. If a team has THAT many injuries; there are underlying reasons as to why.

You can insert the caveat of ‘when healthy’ “X” team is the top in “Y” category. However there’s no such thing as ‘healthy’ in the NFL. Every player deals with pain and injury to some extent. The NFL really is a battle of attrition.

With parity being the way it is it’s hard to say where the line is drawn. Do we win if they are ‘healthy’? Who is to say; it’s all speculation.

 

2 minutes ago, JayOzOne said:

They absolutely are the top *whatever* until they're not. Injuries are part of the game, so you are what you are until you aren't.

In other words: Nobody is actually the top anything until the end of the season. They are just the top *whatever* for now.

 

15 minutes ago, Tim Mazetti said:

Yep.

Understood!!

Therefore, If SF trots into town with the #1 defense and you beat them by 2 touchdowns, injuries to them are not our problem and they don't devalue their ranking, because they still leave with the #1 defense regardless of injuries!?!?

So, anybody who says; "But they didn't have their full defense" is essentially crying and making excuses AND giving up their rights to be considered "#1". Correct?

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5 minutes ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said:

 

 

Understood!!

Therefore, If SF trots into town with the #1 defense and you beat them by 2 touchdowns, injuries to them are not our problem and they don't devalue their ranking, because they still leave with the #1 defense regardless of injuries!?!?

So, anybody who says; "But they didn't have their full defense" is essentially crying and making excuses AND giving up their rights to be considered "#1". Correct?

I look at it this way.

I've seen plenty of Falcon teams that could not take advantage of another teams misfortunes. I've seen a few that could.

Fortunately this is one them that can.

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A team's goal year in and year out is to be the best 53 man roster in the league.

 

Injuries happen. It's been proven that even an injury riddled team can still win big.

 

As for Niners, Nick Bosa seems to always be injured and they've still won many games so I don't see why it's an issue now for their fans and media. If they had won against the Falcons, then they'd be talking about how great their depth is.

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8 minutes ago, DonOfThemBirds said:

A team's goal year in and year out is to be the best 53 man roster in the league.

 

Injuries happen. It's been proven that even an injury riddled team can still win big.

 

As for Niners, Nick Bosa seems to always be injured and they've still won many games so I don't see why it's an issue now for their fans and media. If they had won against the Falcons, then they'd be talking about how great their depth is.

I think the thing that pisses most off is that the injury excuse is usually prefaced in the first 2 sentences commentors use when discussing a falcons win. Everyone dismisses the fact that we were down rb#1, rb#2, ilb#1, olb#1, safety#1, cb#1,cb#2.

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27 minutes ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said:

 

 

Understood!!

Therefore, If SF trots into town with the #1 defense and you beat them by 2 touchdowns, injuries to them are not our problem and they don't devalue their ranking, because they still leave with the #1 defense regardless of injuries!?!?

So, anybody who says; "But they didn't have their full defense" is essentially crying and making excuses AND giving up their rights to be considered "#1". Correct?

Injuries are part of the game.  We were minus our top 2 RBs (Patterson and Williams), one of our starting MLBs, one of our starting OLBs/pass rushers, and were running with our 4th, 5th, and 6th CBs yet we found a way to win with those players on the field.  Our team WOULD be better with having all of our injured guys back (just like theirs would be).. but you play the game with the players that are available just like every other team does.  The players who ARE available have to get the job done... ours did.. theirs didn't.  Period.  

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1 minute ago, Pa_Falcon_Fan said:

Injuries are part of the game.  We were minus our top 2 RBs (Patterson and Williams), one of our starting MLBs, one of our starting OLBs/pass rushers, and were running with our 4th, 5th, and 6th CBs yet we found a way to win with those players on the field.  Our team WOULD be better with having all of our injured guys back (just like theirs would be).. but you play the game with the players that are available just like every other team does.  The players who ARE available have to get the job done... ours did.. theirs didn't.  Period.  

And not to mention $70M+ in dead cap space... This is like having 8 players on IR...

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Statistically speaking teams are ranked where they are based on numbers. So yea, any team can come in top of this or that. However, what the numbers won’t really show is if you have a team like the niners that came in highly ranked but are missing 80 starters that game, gonna be hard to maintain that top ranked production, yea?

This is also why I’m not looking at Mariota’s performance with rose colored glasses this past weekend. He should’ve played the way he did given how decimated San Fran was. However, credit where credit is due, he played much better than he has the past few weeks to start the season.

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1 hour ago, ADAMSVILLE GYM said:

 

 

Understood!!

Therefore, If SF trots into town with the #1 defense and you beat them by 2 touchdowns, injuries to them are not our problem and they don't devalue their ranking, because they still leave with the #1 defense regardless of injuries!?!?

So, anybody who says; "But they didn't have their full defense" is essentially crying and making excuses AND giving up their rights to be considered "#1". Correct?

We don't get an asterisk for only running for 168 yards even though CP84 was unavailable. And we also didn't get credit for losing to Tampon Boo minus both CP84 and Kyle Pitts. The "#1 defense" includes ~24 players on the defensive side of the roster. That's why you build depth.

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