Braves Offseason Thread

[Malachore]

31 minutes ago, K26dp said:

Doesn't have to be that dramatic. Maybe a Jorge Mateo trade, or Trayce Thompson, someone like that. 

Does that even move the needle though?

Don't know much about either but think Mateo is all defense no bat.

[K26dp]

18 minutes ago, Malachore said:

Does that even move the needle though?

Don't know much about either but think Mateo is all defense no bat.

Yeah, kind of a Javy Baez type but younger. If they really are concerned about Grissom's defense, he wouldn't be a bad alternative, he's as good or better than Swanson in the field. With the number of groundball pitchers on the staff they really can't just cross their fingers at shortstop.

[Unknøwn]

16 hours ago, Malachore said:

Does that even move the needle though?

Don't know much about either but think Mateo is all defense no bat.

I dont think you need to move the needle that much. The core of the team is still really good and Albies will be back with a fully healthy Acuna too. You really just need someone to catch the ball at SS, the offense should be fine regardless. Rosario/Luplow is going to be LF it appears. You can add a bat in July to supplement if you need to. 

[Malachore]

3 minutes ago, Unknøwn said:

I dont think you need to move the needle that much. The core of the team is still really good and Albies will be back with a fully healthy Acuna too. You really just need someone to catch the ball at SS, the offense should be fine regardless. Rosario/Luplow is going to be LF it appears. You can add a bat in July to supplement if you need to. 

Banking on 2 guys to return to firm from injuries and 2 rookies to not regress in year 2 is pretty tall asks.

[Unknøwn]

7 minutes ago, Malachore said:

Banking on 2 guys to return to firm from injuries and 2 rookies to not regress in year 2 is pretty tall asks.

We were always going to be doing that though. No matter who was in LF or SS we were going to be banking on Riley, Acuna, Olson, Albies, Harris to lead the offense with Strider being a key to the rotation. Dansby was clutch but you couldn't always count on him offensively. 

[Malachore]

9 minutes ago, Unknøwn said:

We were always going to be doing that though. No matter who was in LF or SS we were going to be banking on Riley, Acuna, Olson, Albies, Harris to lead the offense with Strider being a key to the rotation. Dansby was clutch but you couldn't always count on him offensively. 

I don't disagree but then adding a rookie in there who isn't even good defensively to play SS sure seems like a bad idea.

[Unknøwn]

6 minutes ago, Malachore said:

I don't disagree but then adding a rookie in there who isn't even good defensively to play SS sure seems like a bad idea.

I'm not sold on Grissom being ready but I meant more like if you added Mateo to the team. Just play defense and hit 9th, all you should need. He could also cause havoc on the bases in front of Acuna. 

[falconsd56]

1 hour ago, Unknøwn said:

I'm not sold on Grissom being ready but I meant more like if you added Mateo to the team. Just play defense and hit 9th, all you should need. He could also cause havoc on the bases in front of Acuna. 

If the braves can get even average production from LF then you can afford to have a light hitting SS 

[VNlanta]

With the removal of the shift, I think Rosario should be returning to super Rosario 

[K26dp]

On 12/1/2022 at 4:38 PM, K26dp said:

This is my current guess at a 26-man roster if they don't add anyone (starting line-up in bold).

IF: Albies, Arcia, Grissom, Olson, Riley
OF: Acuna, Harris, Hilliard, Ozuna, Rosario
C : Contreras, d'Arnaud, Pena

SP: Fried, Morton, Soroka, Strider, Wright

RP: N. Anderson, Chavez, Iglesias, Lee, McHugh, Minter, Santana, Yates

Update:

This is my current guess at a 26-man roster if they don't add anyone (starting line-up in bold).

IF: Albies, Arcia, Diaz, Grissom, Olson, Riley
OF: Acuna, Harris, Hilliard, Luplow, Rosario
C : d'Arnaud, Murphy

SP: Fried, Morton, Soroka, Strider, Wright

RP: N. Anderson, Chavez, Iglesias, Jimenez, Lee, McHugh, Minter, Yates

Line-up:

1. Acuna RF
2. Olson 1B
3. Riley 3B
4. Murphy C
5. Harris CF
6. Albies 2B
7. Diaz DH
8. Rosario LF
9. Grissom SS

Platoons:

DH: Diaz 35%, Murphy 30%, d'Arnaud 15%, Olson 5%, others 15%
LF: Rosario 70%, Luplow 25%, Hilliard 5%
C : Murphy 60%, d'Arnaud 35%, others 5%

[Malachore]

1 hour ago, K26dp said:

Update:

This is my current guess at a 26-man roster if they don't add anyone (starting line-up in bold).

IF: Albies, Arcia, Diaz, Grissom, Olson, Riley
OF: Acuna, Harris, Hilliard, Luplow, Rosario
C : d'Arnaud, Murphy

SP: Fried, Morton, Soroka, Strider, Wright

RP: N. Anderson, Chavez, Iglesias, Jimenez, Lee, McHugh, Minter, Yates

Line-up:

1. Acuna RF
2. Olson 1B
3. Riley 3B
4. Murphy C
5. Harris CF
6. Albies 2B
7. Diaz DH
8. Rosario LF
9. Grissom SS

Platoons:

DH: Diaz 35%, Murphy 30%, d'Arnaud 15%, Olson 5%, others 15%
LF: Rosario 70%, Luplow 25%, Hilliard 5%
C : Murphy 60%, d'Arnaud 35%, others 5%

Why do you like Diaz so much?

[For the A]

The Braves announced this evening they’ve signed reliever Jackson Stephens to a one-year contract. It’s a split deal that pays him at varied rates depending on whether he’s in the majors or minors. Stephens secures a 40-man roster spot, bringing Atlanta’s roster to capacity.

[Unknøwn]

Stephens will make $740K if in MLB

[K26dp]

7 hours ago, Malachore said:

Why do you like Diaz so much?

Left-handed hitter, good contact skills, decent pop, good defense at first. He may not make the club, but based on the roster as it stands right now, I like him better than Ozuna or Hilliard, the players he's essentially going to be competing against. 

[g-dawg]

Ok - Here goes:

- Sign Fried now
- 7yrs and $200mm
- $28.57mm AAV
- carries Fried from Ages 29-36

- buys out two arbitration years where Fried would make about $32mm - so if he was free agent now he would probably make $64mm in those years

- Why Fried does this?   Guarantees $200mm versus $16mm this year only guaranteed.

- Why Braves do this?  Fried is true superstar and the true ACE of the staff.   At free agency, Fried probably gets $35mm/yr and 7-8yrs as a player two years older.

- Contract:  Guessing could be structured to lower until Ozuna contract off the books - I know that doesn’t help with luxury tax but even still.

At some point, you gotta give someone a legit market contract near market value.  This is still a discount but Braves need to maintain this specific player as he is the horse and still should be dominant for majority of contract if he stays relatively healthy.

[mookie3127]

Braves sign Sean Murphy to a 6 year, $73M contract

[NashvilleFalcon01]

[Jimsmusic™]

[jidady]

Atlanta has locked up every infield spot except shortstop and two out of three OF spots through 2027.

[Malachore]

28 minutes ago, jidady said:

Atlanta has locked up every infield spot except shortstop and two out of three OF spots through 2027.

Technically SS is also and till 2028 if it's Grissom.

[falconsd56]

AA to virtually the entire team

You get a contract

You get a contract.

 

AA to Freddie and and Dansby 

 

[For the A]

Nice job by AA locking up Murphy. Hopefully this offseason AA can get Fried extended with Morton’s $20 million not on the payroll, if they don’t pick up the club option, and the following year Ozuna’s $18 million 

[Unknøwn]

Another bargain deal. A 30 year old Willson Contreras had a 3.9 WAR and similar numbers, Murphy had a 3.5 WAR, Contreras gets $17.5M per for 5 and Murphy picks Atlanta for $12M per for 6 years. 

The Braves also still saved $500K on the 2023 payroll by swapping Pina for Murphy. 

[Unknøwn]

Braves are projected to be $6M over the tax. If the payroll stayed the same they will owe $1.2M to Uncle Manfred. Current tax payroll is at $239M if projections hold true. 

[Unknøwn]