Ransack Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 All I can say is if I want to be somewhere I'm not going to leave it up to someone else. I'm going to be knocking on the GM's door saying let's have a conversation about me retiring here. But that's me and I'm kinda old school about those type of things. K26dp and ATL Fan in the DMV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, jidady said: Freeman wanted to feel wanted, but we're too corporate for that. Considering it was a contact negotiation and not an episode of The Bachelor, I think AA's approach was fine. falconsd56 and ATL Fan in the DMV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For the A Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 If my brief research and math is correct Freeman will get $9-10 million more than what Braves offered. Playing for ATL tax rate is 7.5% 5 years at $140 - taxes is $129-130 Playing for LAD tax rate is 14% $167 - $57 (deferred) - taxes is $90 $57 (deferred) - taxes is $49 LAD total is $139 ** All amounts are millions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 jidady, TheTrue7 and AF89 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Well ********. AA loves those sneaky 1-year deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransack Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Well.... this bullpen is sick. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For the A Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Nice pick up to strengthen the BP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, K26dp said: Huh. If you can’t find a starter, shorten the game I guess? And a little tit for tat while he’s at it. K26dp, AF89 and falconsd56 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, ATLBrave said: Niiiiiiice! They deserved that, too! ATLBrave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonFalcon Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, ATLBrave said: Basically an unofficial trade...I like it. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, K26dp said: Considering it was a contact negotiation and not an episode of The Bachelor, I think AA's approach was fine. Meh. We should treat human beings like human beings, and you know it. People want to vilify Freddie, but he deserved better than he got from us at the end. It could be worse. Seattle cut Bobby Wagner without talking to him. Doesn't make it right, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Knowing where he’s from, bet your *** that Kenley will say he grew up a Braves fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 The braves pen should be ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsmusic™ Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 so that BP tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, jidady said: Meh. We should treat human beings like human beings, and you know it. People want to vilify Freddie, but he deserved better than he got from us at the end. It could be worse. Seattle cut Bobby Wagner without talking to him. Doesn't make it right, though. I do think McGuirk could have made AA’s job a lot easier because I can almost guarantee no good offer was made because of the 2020 COVID season. But, I’ll say that Freddie’s agent, and by proxy Freddie himself, overplayed his hand by giving that ultimatum. At that point, AA didn’t owe anything to Freddie. Guy has a job to do and mouths to feed. jidady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For the A Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 year @ $16 million for Jansen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, jidady said: Meh. We should treat human beings like human beings, and you know it. People want to vilify Freddie, but he deserved better than he got from us at the end. It could be worse. Seattle cut Bobby Wagner without talking to him. Doesn't make it right, though. I don't want to vilify Freddie Freeman in the slightest. I wish he had re-signed. But he's also an adult with his own agency (and agent for that matter). The Braves made him a credible offer. He didn't even have to take it -- but he could have told his agent "I want to return to Atlanta, get the best deal with them that you can", but he didn't do that. Instead his agent backed AA into a corner, and few people respond well to that. Anthopolous is also a human being, does that not count if he's working for a corporation you don't like? He'll be fine. The Braves will be fine. Apparently Kenley Jensen will be fine too, this is a more shocking move to me than the Olson trade. Wow. ATLBrave, falconsd56 and ATL Fan in the DMV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, ATLBrave said: Knowing where he’s from, bet your *** that Kenley will say he grew up a Braves fan. "Growing up in Curacao, we always watched the Braves on TBS to see my baseball hero Andruw Jones..." ATL Fan in the DMV, falconsd56 and ATLBrave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For the A Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) With Jansen signing this will put the Braves projected payroll at $200 million. So there is room to add if AA can. Edited March 19, 2022 by For the A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, K26dp said: Apparently Kenley Jensen will be fine too, this is a more shocking move to me than the Olson trade. Wow. Yeah, I think we're all on cloud nine about this one. By the way, there's this: AA is reeeeeeeeeeeeeally good at his job. Nobody had a whiff of this. falconsd56 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 That’s interesting. jidady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, ATLBrave said: I do think McGuirk could have made AA’s job a lot easier because I can almost guarantee no good offer was made because of the 2020 COVID season. But, I’ll say that Freddie’s agent, and by proxy Freddie himself, overplayed his hand by giving that ultimatum. At that point, AA didn’t owe anything to Freddie. Guy has a job to do and mouths to feed. Yeah, I'm genuinely angry that Close had the audacity to give Atlanta a one-hour window on accepting a take it or leave it offer. Nobody's disputing that happened, and it's the kind of the line in sand that is guaranteed to gain a negative reaction. Contrast that to Abbott's agent, who is only worried about his client's happiness. That's how the system should work. We'll all be fine, and we'll all get over it. The heartbreak is fresh, though. Freddie in a Dodgers jersey is just...I have no words. ATLBrave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Friends, this is legitimately our third-best bullpen arm: CrimsonFalcon and Redjack 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VNlanta Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, CrimsonFalcon said: Basically an unofficial trade...I like it. Alex A , the goat. CrimsonFalcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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