Unknøwn Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Drew Smyly signs with the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Unknøwn said: Drew Smyly signs with the Cubs. Smyly gets $5.2M. Can get another $2.5M in incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Unknøwn said: He has no trade protection. Thought is the Twins take a shot but if it goes south they flip him for prospects. Boras also didn't want him to sign long-term cause he was hired late. Correa's previous agent gets the biggest share but Boras gets it all on the next deal. Does that money for the agent come out of the players contract numbers or it in addition to that number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 minute ago, dmite said: Does that money for the agent come out of the players contract numbers or it in addition to that number? They charge the player a percentage of any and all deals they negotiate. For example, Boras is said to charge 5% so if its a $100M deal then you basically pay your agent $5M for their work. The NBA and NFL have caps on what an agent can charge. I think it's 3% in the NFL and 4% in the NBA. The MLB has no cap though. dmite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBirdLady Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 1:43 AM, Ransack said: Yeah it was a poor job to say the least. With that tax rate he's basically playing that 6th year for free. Total mismanagement by Freddie and his agent and now having signed with LA he's not exactly a popular guy around here anymore. Actually. Plus I saw that in his contract, 57 million is deferred, no interest earned, until pay outs that begin in 2028-2040. So he will earn 27 per year first 3 years with 4 million per year deferred each year, then 27 per year the next 3 with 12 per year deferred. Can you imagine of interest on that amount of money he is losing?? WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, BamaBirdLady said: Actually. Plus I saw that in his contract, 57 million is deferred, no interest earned, until pay outs that begin in 2028-2040. So he will earn 27 per year first 3 years with 4 million per year deferred each year, then 27 per year the next 3 with 12 per year deferred. Can you imagine of interest on that amount of money he is losing?? WOW Plus, “If Freeman is traded, his new team would not be able to defer any of the money he is still owed.” Seems this would make trading him very difficult if they ever chose to pursue it. BamaBirdLady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuego Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 So after reading this article on ESPN about Freeman leaving, with a lot of quotes from Chipper Jones, I feel Freddie was probably as much to blame as the Braves. It is a protected article (and we're not supposed to post whole protected articles any more) but I'll quote some things from Chipper that shed a different light on the process. I bolded information from Chipper that sheds a little different light on the process. The article is pretty detailed though on the whole process, including the signing of Olson and Freddie after they signed Olson. _________ For Jones, the hardest thing to swallow is how close the two sides seemed. "I have no doubt, the Braves would've gone to 145 or 150," he says. "I'm not going to speak for Alex. I don't know the interactions between Alex and Excel. But somewhere in there was miscommunication, lack of communication, something... "From my conversations with Freddie," Jones says, "he wanted to stay. I'm just not so sure the way that he and his camp handled it was the way to make it happen." Around the same time, at last summer's trade deadline, the Braves finally moved in their negotiations with Freeman, offering him $125 million over five years, according to sources. The response from Freeman's camp remained consistent with what had been communicated before -- he would agree only to a deal that included a sixth year. In the weeks that followed, the Braves bumped their offer to $135 million over five years. Chipper Jones is a special assistant with the Atlanta Braves, the team for which he played 19 seasons, and he is often at Truist Park. Last August, as Freeman was closing in on free agency for the first time in his career, Jones recalled pulling him aside. "I told him, 'If you go to free agency, and you get courted by all ... the big-market teams -- you're not coming back,'" Jones said. But more than that, Jones said, he implored Freeman not to try to play the Braves -- from his experience working with the front office, he warned Freeman that they would call his bluff. "I told Freddie, 'You're playing a dangerous, dangerous game ... They will move on without you, because Alex has a job to do. If he doesn't do that job, he puts his job in jeopardy.'" When the business of baseball resumed, the Braves reconnected with Freeman's representatives. Anthopoulos nudged Atlanta's offer upward, to $140 million over five years. On Friday, March 11, there was a report that the Dodgers were making an intense push to sign Freeman. The next day, Close and Anthopoulos spoke, and, according to four sources, Close told Anthopoulos that the Braves had an hour to accept one of two proposals -- a six-year, $175 million deal, an average of a little more than $29 million a year, or a five-year, $165 million deal, an average of $33 million per season. Anthopoulos rejected both of Excel's proposals. The two sides agreed on only this: All offers and proposals were off the table. Both sides needed to prepare for an Atlanta squad without Freddie Freeman. Jones FaceTimed with Freeman on Wednesday, an 'emotional' hourlong conversation. "I didn't want to sound like a dad," Jones says. "I didn't want to say 'I told you so.'" __________ So Jones is basically saying Freeman's camp did what he specifically told him not to do. It still may be more Braves, or maybe not, but it's not was one-sided toward the Braves for the 'blame' for me after reading this. https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/33536546/inside-yearlong-contract-saga-split-freddie-freeman-atlanta-braves Malachore and BamaBirdLady 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 World Series hero Jorge Soler signs a 3-year, $36 million deal with the Miami Marlins. He gets opt-outs after each season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBirdLady Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, fuego said: So after reading this article on ESPN about Freeman leaving, with a lot of quotes from Chipper Jones, I feel Freddie was probably as much to blame as the Braves. It is a protected article (and we're not supposed to post whole protected articles any more) but I'll quote some things from Chipper that shed a different light on the process. I bolded information from Chipper that sheds a little different light on the process. The article is pretty detailed though on the whole process, including the signing of Olson and Freddie after they signed Olson. _________ For Jones, the hardest thing to swallow is how close the two sides seemed. "I have no doubt, the Braves would've gone to 145 or 150," he says. "I'm not going to speak for Alex. I don't know the interactions between Alex and Excel. But somewhere in there was miscommunication, lack of communication, something... "From my conversations with Freddie," Jones says, "he wanted to stay. I'm just not so sure the way that he and his camp handled it was the way to make it happen." Around the same time, at last summer's trade deadline, the Braves finally moved in their negotiations with Freeman, offering him $125 million over five years, according to sources. The response from Freeman's camp remained consistent with what had been communicated before -- he would agree only to a deal that included a sixth year. In the weeks that followed, the Braves bumped their offer to $135 million over five years. Chipper Jones is a special assistant with the Atlanta Braves, the team for which he played 19 seasons, and he is often at Truist Park. Last August, as Freeman was closing in on free agency for the first time in his career, Jones recalled pulling him aside. "I told him, 'If you go to free agency, and you get courted by all ... the big-market teams -- you're not coming back,'" Jones said. But more than that, Jones said, he implored Freeman not to try to play the Braves -- from his experience working with the front office, he warned Freeman that they would call his bluff. "I told Freddie, 'You're playing a dangerous, dangerous game ... They will move on without you, because Alex has a job to do. If he doesn't do that job, he puts his job in jeopardy.'" When the business of baseball resumed, the Braves reconnected with Freeman's representatives. Anthopoulos nudged Atlanta's offer upward, to $140 million over five years. On Friday, March 11, there was a report that the Dodgers were making an intense push to sign Freeman. The next day, Close and Anthopoulos spoke, and, according to four sources, Close told Anthopoulos that the Braves had an hour to accept one of two proposals -- a six-year, $175 million deal, an average of a little more than $29 million a year, or a five-year, $165 million deal, an average of $33 million per season. Anthopoulos rejected both of Excel's proposals. The two sides agreed on only this: All offers and proposals were off the table. Both sides needed to prepare for an Atlanta squad without Freddie Freeman. Jones FaceTimed with Freeman on Wednesday, an 'emotional' hourlong conversation. "I didn't want to sound like a dad," Jones says. "I didn't want to say 'I told you so.'" __________ So Jones is basically saying Freeman's camp did what he specifically told him not to do. It still may be more Braves, or maybe not, but it's not was one-sided toward the Braves for the 'blame' for me after reading this. https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/33536546/inside-yearlong-contract-saga-split-freddie-freeman-atlanta-braves So the Braves called his bluff. I’m glad they did. I think they offered him deals in good faith and his side rejected both. I don’t like him saying how shocked he when that they moved on and signed Olson. AA did exactly what Chipper told Freddie he would do. I wish Freddie the best, but he has moved on and so has Braves! Time to be those ************* this year too! ATL Fan in the DMV and fuego 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VNlanta Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, K26dp said: World Series hero Jorge Soler signs a 3-year, $36 million deal with the Miami Marlins. He gets opt-outs after each season. So we only get one of the three heros back. Hopefully one or two of the top prospect made the team in the OF, so Duval can be a bench/platoon piece. Braves very thin on good bench help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, vietlanta said: So we only get one of the three heros back. Hopefully one or two of the top prospect made the team in the OF, so Duval can be a bench/platoon piece. Braves very thin on good bench help They've already named Duvall the starting CF. fuego 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonFalcon Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, vietlanta said: So we only get one of the three heros back. Hopefully one or two of the top prospect made the team in the OF, so Duval can be a bench/platoon piece. Braves very thin on good bench help Duvall as a starter is easily a 25 plus homer guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, vietlanta said: So we only get one of the three heros back. Hopefully one or two of the top prospect made the team in the OF, so Duval can be a bench/platoon piece. Braves very thin on good bench help Huh? Acuna and Ozuna replace Pederson and Soler and Dickerson is a better hitter than Heredia. Heck Demeritte is probably better than Heredia. Arcia should be an upgrade over Adrianza and Pina is an upgrade over the backup catcher parade from last year. We’re fine. Last year was last year. Time to look forward Edited March 20, 2022 by Ghosts of Glanville BamaBirdLady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 The OFR spring training odds tracker is up and running now. Most likely 26-man Opening Day roster right now: 1B Olson 2B Albies SS Swanson 3B Riley UT Arcia UT Gosselin C1 d'Arnaud C2 Pina LF Rosario CF Duvall RF Dickerson DH Ozuna OF Heredia SP Fried SP Morton SP Anderson SP Ynoa SP Davidson RHRP Jensen RHRP L. Jackson RHRP McHugh RHRP O'Day LHRP Smith LHRP Matzek LHRP Minter LHRP Newcomb IL: Acuna, Soroka, J. Jackson, Yates SacFalcFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VNlanta Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: Huh? Acuna and Ozuna replace Pederson and Soler and Dickerson is a better hitter than Heredia. Heck Demeritte is probably better than Heredia. Arcia should be an upgrade over Adrianza and Pina is an upgrade over the backup catcher parade from last year. We’re fine. Last year was last year. Time to look forward Acuna is out 'til who know when in May. Ozuna is not an outfielder and he struggled before his issues and has been out for a year. Some question mark there. There's a Dh spot now so it opens an extra bench option. I forgot about Pina but so at least there's him. Outfield will struggle until acuna return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, vietlanta said: Acuna is out 'til who know when in May. Ozuna is not an outfielder and he struggled before his issues and has been out for a year. Some question mark there. There's a Dh spot now so it opens an extra bench option. I forgot about Pina but so at least there's him. Outfield will struggle until acuna return AA said Acuna will become the teams DH after couple of weeks in April assuming all goes well. Then he'll be in the OF in May when hes ready. So between Ozuna, Duvall and Rosario we should be just fine in the OF production. BamaBirdLady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuego Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Here's a little break from offseason talk. I totally forgot we shut them out in game 6. I'm getting old. lol. NashvilleFalcon01, ATL Fan in the DMV and BamaBirdLady 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, K26dp said: The OFR spring training odds tracker is up and running now. Most likely 26-man Opening Day roster right now: 1B Olson 2B Albies SS Swanson 3B Riley UT Arcia UT Gosselin C1 d'Arnaud C2 Pina LF Rosario CF Duvall RF Dickerson DH Ozuna OF Heredia SP Fried SP Morton SP Anderson SP Ynoa SP Davidson RHRP Jensen RHRP L. Jackson RHRP McHugh RHRP O'Day LHRP Smith LHRP Matzek LHRP Minter LHRP Newcomb IL: Acuna, Soroka, J. Jackson, Yates And that girls and boys is a rock solid bullpen! I can’t ever remember the Braves having a staff from top to bottom like this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 Trevor Story is headed to Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: Trevor Story is headed to Boston. It's 6 years $140M. Feels like an appropriate time to mention Story is just a .241 hitter with a .750 OPS in his career away from Coors Field. He's .303 with a .972 OPS in Coors. He hit .203 with a .718 OPS out of Coors last season. I'm not sure the Red Sox are getting the player they think they are. NashvilleFalcon01 and ATL Fan in the DMV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 Boston did a twist on the opt out. Story can opt out after year 4 but if the Red Sox add a 1 year extension worth $20M it voids the opt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For the A Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I just waiting for the day when teams include their own opt out clause. Say it’s a 6 year contract. The player can opt out after years 1 and 2. Then the team can opt out after year 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 Max Scherzer, who became the leading figure on CBA talks, said he's "absolutely not" getting involved next time. Scherzer was the biggest critic of every MLB proposal repoetedly. He led the charge to vote no on the last proposal before the reps turned on him and the committee. He said it was too time consuming and frustrating. Scherzer majored in economics in college but said it was way more than just math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 He thinks that's frustrating? He's now playing for the Mets. ATL Fan in the DMV, Unknøwn and dmite 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 Nats announced they will retire Zimmerman's #11. He was the first draft pick of the Nationals after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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