K26dp Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Depends on which stats you use to evaluate players. wRC+ = Adam Duvall = League Average = This is where you stand OBP = Adam Duvall = One of the worst hitters in baseball = This is where I stand But we've gone around in this circle enough times and I'm tired of you calling me wrong because I use a different stat than you do to evaluate a hitter and we're never going to see eye-to-eye on this. This has gone way past rational discussion and has just become silly. OBP is a component of wRC+ (and similar metrics like wOBA, OPS+, etc), so I am using OBP. Using OBP by itself is as big of mistake as only using HR, or SLG, or batting average. Hey look, Duvall put the Braves ahead. What a terrible hitter. blizzard_falcon and AUTiger7222 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, AUTiger7222 said: Adam Duvall please hit a homerun here and make me look like a complete dumb***. YES!!!!!!!!! IT WORKED!!!! THANK YOU DUVALL!!!! I'M A ******* dumb***!!! Williamb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I REJECT YOUR DOLLAR TONIGHT!!! ATL Fan in the DMV, blizzard_falcon and AUTiger7222 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, jidady said: I REJECT YOUR DOLLAR TONIGHT!!! Too early cat. Too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Francis Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhino Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I chop in front of your face Helsley! falconsd56 and AUTiger7222 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, K26dp said: Too early cat. Too early. I BELIEVE IN OUR BULLPEN! blizzard_falcon, K26dp and AUTiger7222 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 That off-center, behind the plate camera angle they use in St. Louis is one of the best anywhere. Wish we had that in atl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: That off-center, behind the plate camera angle they use in St. Louis is one of the best anywhere. Wish we had that in atl I can’t stand it. Love the straight on shot where you can see the balls and strikes more accurately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, K26dp said: OBP is a component of wRC+ (and similar metrics like wOBA, OPS+, etc), so I am using OBP. Using OBP by itself is as big of mistake as only using HR, or SLG, or batting average. Hey look, Duvall put the Braves ahead. What a terrible hitter. I’m glad he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamb Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Ryan "the chop is offensive to me" Helsley now in the game. I hate this ***********'s guts!! Gosh man, did you not get enough sleep last night? Wake up on the floor (forget wrong side of the bed)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, K26dp said: Also, I questioned your maturity over your declaration that "seeing everyone act so gitty [sic] about him just pisses me off", not be because you haven't dropped this discussion. That other people like a player you don't has zero impact on your or the team and its World Series chances. I was more frustrated with the team/fan response than I was about Duvall himself. Duvall is a fine player when used correctly. It’s the reason I wanted the Braves to keep him last winter and called it a stupid move to dump him. It’s all about moderation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Williamb said: Gosh man, did you not get enough sleep last night? Wake up on the floor (forget wrong side of the bed)? Nope. I had a great night last night. I just hate Ryan Helsley cause he’s a little punk *** ***** and I believe that his crying about The Chop in 2019 in the playsoffs played a role in the Braves losing that series. vanhino and K26dp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: Nope. Player A gets on base more and therefore if he's on base more naturally he's gonna score more than Player B. The more runners you get on base the more runs you score. It's the Moneyball approach. It's that simple. Ok. Your guy has a .350 OBP to my guy’s .300. Over the course of a season let’s say they both have 500 plate appearances. Your guy is on base 25 more times than my guy. My guy has 75 RBIs to yours 65, so out of the 25 more times on base, how many times will he likely and reasonably score? Let’s just say he’s on second base on average with 1 out on average. So that’s 50 at bats he’ll be witnessing on second base. Let’s say each batter behind him is batting .250. He advances to score 12.5 of those times so we’ll add 12.5 runs to your 65 RBIS and it’s 77.5 to 75. So kind of a wash. Both guys are legit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, AUTiger7222 said: Nope. I had a great night last night. I just hate Ryan Helsley cause he’s a little punk *** ***** and I believe that his crying about The Chop in 2019 in the playsoffs played a role in the Braves losing that series. Shirley you can’t be serious? 10 runs allowed in the first innings had a helluva lot more to do with that loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsmusic™ Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 good job martin. smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Welp, that double steal hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: YES!!!!!!!!! IT WORKED!!!! THANK YOU DUVALL!!!! I'M A ******* dumb***!!! It would have been better had he hit a double. After all you are tired of hearing about home runs Edited August 5, 2021 by Adam Duvall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Barves! ATL58 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 And that’s gonna tie the game. Ugh. All the bragging about how great the bullpen has been lately and it’s another blown save by the Braves bullpen. Another rough outing by Chris Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Adam Duvall said: It would have been better had he hit a double I never said that. But thanks for playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, AUTiger7222 said: And that’s gonna tie the game. Ugh. All the bragging about how great the bullpen has been lately and it’s another blown save by the Braves bullpen. Another rough outing by Chris Martin. The bullpen got the memo that we can’t win tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL58 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, AUTiger7222 said: I never said that. But thanks for playing. You said you are tired of hearing about home runs specifically in regard to Duvall Edited August 5, 2021 by Adam Duvall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Back to the Braves. Pls no more barving tonight JDFIII and AUTiger7222 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Adam Duvall said: You said you are tired of hearing about home runs specifically in regard to Duvall Because homeruns are the only thing Duvall brings to the table. He doesn’t hit singles, doubles or triples or take walks. If he did he wouldn’t have a .275 OBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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