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12 hours ago, GleasonForever! said:

Now can we get Houston? Always trying to be cute with our pass rushers and get these dudes that’s haven’t done squat. Now look at the Falcons. 

it's not because they think Mingo is better lol It's because they can't afford a Houston (or couldn't before)

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21 minutes ago, Beef said:

If Mingo is guilty, fry him for all I care. But just know that he could be innocent and still might be taken down because that’s just the world we live in right now. And I pray more of us wake up to the fact that truth and justice and guilt have all become subjective anymore

Your post said so many good things. But I didn't want to wall of text quote you. Initial reports look bad for Mingo and he will need to pay if found guilty. 

As an overall for society, people do need to realize that our justice system is corrupt. Not might be, not maybe, it is! 

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23 minutes ago, Beef said:

They had concrete proof when they indicted and convicted Brian Banks?

Clearly they did not.

DA’s charge people with crimes without proof ALL THE TIME. Especially misdemeanors.  If they always had proof, and that was the standard, the concept of “circumstantial evidence” may not even exist or need invoking, and there would be 100% conviction rates across the board.

A good friend of mine who was a 20 year officer for APD before taking early retirement to get out of what he called a “cesspool of corruption and political gaming”, has told me all about the “quota system” they were subjected to.

It wasn’t about justice and law enforcement, it was about elected leaders and officials mandating bust and fine quotas. Whether it was drug offenses or just traffic citations, they had numbers they had to hit every month and quarter or they were penalized somehow.

Thats not how it should work. And my buddy was strong enough to voice his disagreements and get out. But he has countless friends in law enforcement who also hate the system they work under but have no alternative livelihoods and are stuck trying to do the right thing in a system that only rewards people who help those at the top game the system for power, wealth, and political gain.

And if you guys don’t think this stuff happens on a federal level too, you’re being absurdly naive.

The full SWAT 5am raids on guys like Roger Stone and Rudy Guilliani, while doing press conferences exonerating the Clintons after listing off 10 felonies every one of us would be crucified for, or Jussie Smollet perpetrating a hoax that cost millions and polarized the entire country, but even the feds swept that under the rug while the corrupt state DA lambasted police officers like it was all their fault, are perfect examples of political bias and 2-tiered law enforcement.

Or how about ANTIFA firebombing federal buildings, police cars, and entire towns, and state AND federal DA’s and judges who have video verified 100% guilty perpetrators in custody, just dropping charges and letting them walk free… even after they continually repeat the offenses?

Many think this is just a “systemic racism” issue, but it’s actually just a “power” issue, and people of all races and creeds are victims of it.

Look, I’m just ultimately saying let’s wait and see, and stop acting like those in power over this situation not only have everyone’s best interests at heart, but that they only care about justice and doing the right thing.

It’s about time people wake up and realize the overwhelming vast majority of people in and with any level of government power are not always well intentioned. And in my wisdom have learned most are actually corrupt and only care about what benefits them rather than us.

If Mingo is guilty, fry him for all I care. But just know that he could be innocent and still might be taken down because that’s just the world we live in right now. And I pray more of us wake up to the fact that truth and justice and guilt have all become subjective anymore.

I don’t disagree with anything you said. But that doesn’t change what I said either. They don’t bring about charges unless they can get a conviction. Doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong or truthful. It just means if charges are filed they’re gonna find a way to get some kind of conviction. As you correctly pointed out with Brian Banks, it doesn’t always make it a truthful conviction, but it was still a conviction which is exactly what I said and doesn’t change any of it.

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2 minutes ago, runshoot said:

Your post said so many good things. But I didn't want to wall of text quote you. Initial reports look bad for Mingo and he will need to pay if found guilty. 

As an overall for society, people do need to realize that our justice system is corrupt. Not might be, not maybe, it is! 

Correct, there is no justice in our “justice” system.

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10 hours ago, BLM said:

When is Deshaun Watson gonna get banned?  I like how the media stopped talking anything about it. NFL definitely trying to sweep the rug.

Media talks more about Aaron Rodgers than DeShaun Watson.

You don't get like 20 accusations and it being false.  Where there's smoke there's fire and there's too much smoke on this one.

Dude what? The Deshaun stuff died down as soon as his attorney was able to get a list of names and could detail that history was consensual. Remember all of that was part of a large civil suit that kicked off when his team refused to pay one of the women off. Guess you're forgetting about the "This is Texas, do you know who I am " email from their lawyer.

 

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1 minute ago, runshoot said:

Your post said so many good things. But I didn't want to wall of text quote you. Initial reports look bad for Mingo and he will need to pay if found guilty. 

As an overall for society, people do need to realize that our justice system is corrupt. Not might be, not maybe, it is! 

My gut feeling is the other boy in the room (the nephew), or some piece of physical evidence (DNA) is going to have to corroborate the allegation.

Unless other boys who have been his victims come out of the woodwork and substantiate he’s a deviant and claim he molested them, too.

I just don’t like the notion of word vs word and being forced to believe guilt without supporting proof. But that’s just me.

In a word vs word ONLY situation we can’t ever really know the real truth. It’s freaking sad to even broach this, but what if the boy’s mother and the boy himself concocted this story for a money grab?  What if Mingo is a perfectly straight heterosexual with a good heart who was just passing along some of his blessed wealth to his nephew because he has no kids of his own and he was just being generous?

Can you imagine destroying someone who didn’t really do anything wrong?

Again, I’m just discussing concepts here. If Mingo is guilty, he needs to pay dearly.  But I just don’t get how some here are willing to already convict him, and how others afford government officials so much trust and credibility when it’s been proven countless times they have zero cred and simply can’t be trusted, and there are way more people out there willing to lie and scam for money than clearly they realize.

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1 hour ago, NorthGaBoy said:

They are going to wire up Mingo and have him watch porno films of young boys.  His reactions, no matter how hard he tries to conceal them, will become evidence. 

They can make him do that? Something tells me that can be bought away

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6 hours ago, TheRisen999 said:

Cleared or not, under this new regime he’s done here. They’re not going to even entertain anything that’ll paint the organization in a bad light. Fontenot and Smith have young kids, as a father I can tell you after THOSE details there’s no chance they want that guy anywhere near the team. They cut buddy before the day was even over.. his NFL career is probably over. No team wants to be attached to that and he’s not good enough to even risk taking that kind of chance. The Falcons washed their hands of him ASAP and I’m glad to see that kind of leadership here. Under Dan Quinn and Dimitroff we might’ve seen this drag on throughout training camp or longer.

I bet under DQ or TD he wouldn’t have set foot in the Branch.He’s a journeyman type a Jag at this point.Didn’t like the signing at all when we made it.

 

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51 minutes ago, Beef said:

I just don’t like the notion of word vs word and being forced to believe guilt without supporting proof. But that’s just me.

The DA has the burden to prove the charge beyond a reasonable doubt. If it’s the boy’s word vs Mingo’s, and the argument that the activities and shopping before were evidence of “grooming”, then Mingo’s lawyer will argue to the jury that there is reasonable doubt, even if they think it’s weird he took kids to a theme park dinner shopping and a hotel. 

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1 minute ago, Mr. Hoopah! said:

The DA has the burden to prove the charge beyond a reasonable doubt. If it’s the boy’s word vs Mingo’s, and the argument that the activities and shopping before were evidence of “grooming”, then Mingo’s lawyer will argue to the jury that there is reasonable doubt, even if they think it’s weird he took kids to a theme park dinner shopping and a hotel. 

I just hope if he is guilty, mingo doesn't get off just because he has better lawyers than the victim..unfortunately that happens alot too 

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4 minutes ago, Slumerican said:

I just hope if he is guilty, mingo doesn't get off just because he has better lawyers than the victim..unfortunately that happens alot too 

If there’s not already a civil claim, there will be, and Mingo will have high six figures of legal fees defending a civil case and a criminal prosecution, and then whatever amount he may agree to pay to settle the civil claim. 

But if he’s truly guilty, and a jury convicts him, he deserves a prison sentence. The max on that charge is 20 years. 

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16 hours ago, Makaveli96 said:

Good god. If this is true he needs to be thrown under the jail

I didn't read the article because, yikes, but if he is found guilty he will go to jail and hopefully recieve therapy.

Odds are he was the victim of some form of abuse himself. There are a lot more abusive family members and Sanduskys out there than we realize. The cycle of abuse, especially with young athletes who see coaches as father figures, needs to be addressed and stopped.

He and his victims will suffer from this the rest of their lives. No solace to be found in any outcome. 

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9 hours ago, youngbloodz said:

He will have his chance in court. But the optics aren’t good at all. I would think the DA made sure the cops had sufficient enough evidence because they know Mingo is a NFL player and has money for a great attorney 

With this being a high profile case, I was thinking that for them to get an arrest warrant signed in THIS situation, they have more than just what is published. 

Matter of fact, I would bet the farm that all of the evidence has NOT been released to the public.

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22 minutes ago, coastiemike said:

As a former Crimes Against children detective for 10 years, I can advise pretty confidently, if a judge signed a warrant, there is concrete evidence and not just someone’s word on what happened.  He’s done.  **** this guy.

Interesting 

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3 hours ago, kiwifalcon said:

I bet under DQ or TD he wouldn’t have set foot in the Branch.He’s a journeyman type a Jag at this point.Didn’t like the signing at all when we made it.

 

How? That’s all they signed

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38 minutes ago, Run 'n' Shoot said:

I didn't read the article because, yikes, but if he is found guilty he will go to jail and hopefully recieve therapy.

Odds are he was the victim of some form of abuse himself. There are a lot more abusive family members and Sanduskys out there than we realize. The cycle of abuse, especially with young athletes who see coaches as father figures, needs to be addressed and stopped.

He and his victims will suffer from this the rest of their lives. No solace to be found in any outcome. 

Unfortunately,  my neighbor is a GBI  agent ..he told me a few years ago a child sex predator was the only criminal he's never seen was able to be reformed..I'll never forget that conversation..he deals with them often 

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34 minutes ago, coastiemike said:

As a former Crimes Against children detective for 10 years, I can advise pretty confidently, if a judge signed a warrant, there is concrete evidence and not just someone’s word on what happened.  He’s done.  **** this guy.

Yeah, judging from what other fans have said in markets he's played in..this has seemed to follow him around since he's been in the league..so sad

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9 hours ago, PointSwayzee said:

This is BS. It's one thing to talk **** about Quinn and TD as respective coach and GM in Atlanta, matter of fact it's flat out deserved. But to assume that they would let something like this linger or "drag out" is pure ******* garbage.

The exact same thing would happen regardless what the regime was in place because of Blank. However, since we are in the "They are the greatest Coach/GM in Falcons History" (despite not having one single game under their respective belts) they are getting credit now for what ANY football team would have done immediately. Nut Hugging at it's absolute finest.

I hated DQ/TD with every fiber in my body as the HC/GM of the Falcons. Your going way beyond that and talking **** about a mans character hidden behind your computer screen.

Garbage post.

This has nothing to do with Smith and Fontenot as a coach or GM but more of how I’ve seen them carry themselves as men. Of course I don’t think Quinn or Dimitroff would condone that sh#% but I just don’t see them taking immediate action. Maybe you’re right about it happening anyway because of Blank but given how passive they were I don’t think it would have come from them.

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21 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

With this being a high profile case, I was thinking that for them to get an arrest warrant signed in THIS situation, they have more than just what is published. 

Matter of fact, I would bet the farm that all of the evidence has NOT been released to the public.

I’m sure they do. I will be interested to see what physical evidence they have because he said/she said cases are a coin flip even if the accused did in fact commit the crime

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43 minutes ago, coastiemike said:

As a former Crimes Against children detective for 10 years, I can advise pretty confidently, if a judge signed a warrant, there is concrete evidence and not just someone’s word on what happened.  He’s done.  **** this guy.

Well it’s different from every jurisdiction but I have seen plenty of people get charged with crimes against kids only for the charges to be dropped or found not guilty 

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55 minutes ago, Run 'n' Shoot said:

I didn't read the article because, yikes, but if he is found guilty he will go to jail and hopefully recieve therapy.

Odds are he was the victim of some form of abuse himself. There are a lot more abusive family members and Sanduskys out there than we realize. The cycle of abuse, especially with young athletes who see coaches as father figures, needs to be addressed and stopped.

He and his victims will suffer from this the rest of their lives. No solace to be found in any outcome. 

This is so absolutely true!!!

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