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Should Julio's number be retired?


Should Julio's number be retired?   

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  1. 1. Should 11 be retired?

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I'd say not yet. Reassess when he gets into the HOF. But my first inclination is no. If a number is retired, that player should be the best in franchise history in everything at his position. JJ surely was the most talented WR we've ever had, but he is still behind Roddy in TDs, so it's a no from me. Four more TDs and it would be a strong consideration and lean toward yes.

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We don't restrict numbers.  Even if we did his definitely isnt the first number we should retire.   I would go in this order

2 Ryan

60 Nobis

21 Sanders

55 Abraham

84 White

28 Dunn (For his play, time in our offices and positive off field impacts more a PR reward)

11 Julio

Not saying all six ahead of him are better, you could argue Julio is the greatest player in franchise history.  But I would argue retiring numbers is more about legacy and total impact on the team, team culture and team direction.  At this moment Julio lags behind those other guys in impact on our direction and culture.  We have had some guys especially the last 15 years or so who for a stretch defined our roster Julio has never been that guy.  Again moot point because we don't retire numbers.

 

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7 minutes ago, #84 said:

We don't restrict numbers.  Even if we did his definitely isnt the first number we should retire.   I would go in this order

2 Ryan

60 Nobis

21 Sanders

55 Abraham

84 White

28 Dunn (For his play, time in our offices and positive off field impacts more a PR reward)

11 Julio

Not saying all six ahead of him are better, you could argue Julio is the greatest player in franchise history.  But I would argue retiring numbers is more about legacy and total impact on the team, team culture and team direction.  At this moment Julio lags behind those other guys in impact on our direction and culture.  We have had some guys especially the last 15 years or so who for a stretch defined our roster Julio has never been that guy.  Again moot point because we don't retire numbers.

 

Numbers are not formally retired but as mentioned in the blog, "Currently, the Atlanta Falcons only have four jersey numbers that are unavailable to be worn ever again – 10 (Steve Bartkowski), 31 (Williams Andrews), 57 (Jeff Van Note), and 60 (Tommy Nobis)"

Gage first tried to change his number to 10 but was denied. So it would seem that it is indeed true, those four are unavailable. 

Only Ryan deserves to join that group. If they were going to do it for Deion or Roddy, they'd have done it all ready.

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52 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

The team doesn’t retire numbers. Only ring of honor. And for that, yes. He’s ROH all the way. But for retired number? Ryan should be the first they ever do that for. 

I dont think I've seen anyone wear 10, 60, or 31 since the original. 

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The Falcons don't officially retire numbers. With that said, they did put numbers out of circulation during the Smith ownership era that are grandfathered in under Blank.

 

No one has worn these numbers in years but they aren't officially retired:

 

Bartkowski - 10

Andrews - 31

Van Note - 57

Tuggle - 58

Nobis - 60

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33 minutes ago, #84 said:

We don't restrict numbers.  Even if we did his definitely isnt the first number we should retire.   I would go in this order

2 Ryan

60 Nobis

10  Steve Barkowski

21 Sanders

55 Abraham

84 White

28 Dunn (For his play, time in our offices and positive off field impacts more a PR reward)

11 Julio

Not saying all six ahead of him are better, you could argue Julio is the greatest player in franchise history.  But I would argue retiring numbers is more about legacy and total impact on the team, team culture and team direction.  At this moment Julio lags behind those other guys in impact on our direction and culture.  We have had some guys especially the last 15 years or so who for a stretch defined our roster Julio has never been that guy.  Again moot point because we don't retire numbers.

 

FIFY.  Can’t leave Bart outta that list

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Falcons block Russell Gage from switching to jersey number formerly worn by an Atlanta legend
By Tyler Sullivan 
 

The NFL loosened up its jersey number restrictions this offseason and various players across the league are taking full advantage as they shake up the number they'll don on game day. One of the jersey changes set to take place that actually would have been permitted under the previous set of rules can be found in Atlanta with receiver Russell Gage. He's elected to switch from No. 83 to No. 14 heading into next season (the new rules allow receivers, running backs and others to wear single digits). That said, No. 14 wasn't the pass catcher's first choice. 

Gage admitted on Thursday that he originally wanted to wear No. 10. As he noted, the Falcons blocked Gage from making that specific jersey swap, forcing him to go in a different direction. 

"I wanted something different, something fresh," Gage said of the change, via The Atlanta Journal-Consitution. "I actually tried to get 10, but it's retired. I understand. I just wanted something fresh, something new." 


While Gage may be under the assumption that No. 10 -- a number famously worn by Steve Bartkowski from 1975-85 -- is retired, it technically isn't. The Falcons do not officially retire numbers and instead place their legendary collection of past players in the Ring of Honor. That said, there are a few jersey numbers that the club has kept on the shelf since the legend has walked away. For instance, no player has worn No. 60 after Tommy Nobis, nor No. 31 since William Andrews. 

To get one of those numbers formerly worn by a Falcons great, a player's best bet is to have a heightened stature within the organization of one day being considered legend themself. But, that's not a hard-and-fast rule, it would appear. There are members of Atlanta's Ring of Honor that have seen their numbers worn after they've called it a career. For example, Cordarrelle Patterson wears Roddy White's No. 84 and Duron Harrison wears No. 21, formerly sported by Deion Sanders. 


As for Bartkowski's No. 10, Scott Campbell was the last Falcon to wear it, from 1986-1990, and it's been sidelined since. While Gage has blossomed into a reliable piece within the Falcons offense, his current standing may not have him on the track to properly take on such an important mantle in the team's eyes. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/falcons-block-russell-gage-from-switching-to-jersey-number-formerly-worn-by-an-atlanta-legend/amp/

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