AUTiger7222 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, falconsd56 said: They may not be able to void the contract but he forfeits any salary while he is suspended...which will almost certainly happen. He is not going to play again this year. If he forfeits it....are the braves still on the hook for it? No. It just goes away. But years the 3 years after this one is where the Braves are screwed at unless they pull a Yankees and decide to keep him and play him next year. That will not sit well with me if it happens. Of course this is the same franchise that turned a blind eye to Bobby Cox punching his wife in 1995. Someone just told me about that on Twitter and I had to go look it up. I was only 8 years old when that happened so I wasn't aware of it at the time. Pains me to know Bobby hit his wife as much as I loved him when he was manager, that and he looked like my Papa so that was cool. After going back and reading about what Bobby did now I feel extremely bad that I ever loved him the way I did. I'm torn. But violence of any kind against women is unacceptable. I saw my dad hit my mom multiple times so it hits home with me. My wife and I have had our arguments but one thing I've never done is laid my hands on her or any other woman. There's no reason for it. Zero tolerance. I don't think Bobby having a statue is right. The Braves should get rid of it. They also still adore AJ25 despite a situation with his wife back several years ago. labradford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 An important note in this. Because this falls under the Family Violence Act in Georgia the charges cannot be dropped by the victim. Hes being charged regardless. He'll have to plead for lesser charges or go down on the felony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: An important note in this. Because this falls under the Family Violence Act in Georgia the charges cannot be dropped by the victim. Hes being charged regardless. He'll have to plead for lesser charges or go down on the felony. When did Georgia pass that law? Every state should have that kind of law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 51 minutes ago, AUTiger7222 said: When did Georgia pass that law? Every state should have that kind of law. I want go say it was passed in 2010 or 2011. If the cop sees you do anything all need for witnesses or victim cooperation is tossed out the window. You're going down. AUTiger7222 and labradford 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: I want go say it was passed in 2010 or 2011. If the cop sees you do anything all need for witnesses or victim cooperation is tossed out the window. You're going down. I like it. Like I said, all states should have this kind of law. labradford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Well the Braves can't simply eat that money, they aren't the Dodgers so I guess he's the DH next year. I prefer him to never be seen in a Braves uniform again but they tolerated Bobby and while Ozuna needs help let's not pretend his wife is any better. I'm not going to sit here and condone domestic violence of any kind and am honestly sick of the spotlight always being fixated on men. labradford and ATL Fan in the DMV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, Malachore said: Well the Braves can't simply eat that money, they aren't the Dodgers so I guess he's the DH next year. I prefer him to never be seen in a Braves uniform again but they tolerated Bobby and while Ozuna needs help let's not pretend his wife is any better. I'm not going to sit here and condone domestic violence of any kind and am honestly sick of the spotlight always being fixated on men. If he does return im sure the Braves will really push for him to publicly go to therapy and do a lot of things for domestic violence charities and things like that. I dont see him just walking back in. Theres also the clubhouse factor. How do the other 25 guys feel about him now? labradford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Malachore said: Well the Braves can't simply eat that money, they aren't the Dodgers so I guess he's the DH next year. I prefer him to never be seen in a Braves uniform again but they tolerated Bobby and while Ozuna needs help let's not pretend his wife is any better. I'm not going to sit here and condone domestic violence of any kind and am honestly sick of the spotlight always being fixated on men. I think we as a society in general are not forgiving enough. Now that doesn't mean murders, rapists, wife beaters, etc. should be out in public and not be in prison, but in general we need to realize no one is ever too far gone. People are allowed to come back and change for the better. One mistake may cost you in some ways, but it shouldn't completely devalue you as a human being. Our society is really terrible about that. I would probably prefer him not play for the Braves again either, but I also could understand if they wanted to give him a second chance to show he can be better. ATL Fan in the DMV and labradford 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Again Georgian Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I didn’t really notice today, but did the Braves stop doing that “mix it up” celebration they’ve been doing? If I’m not mistaken, Ozuna brought that here right? labradford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcon36 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Born Again Georgian said: I didn’t really notice today, but did the Braves stop doing that “mix it up” celebration they’ve been doing? If I’m not mistaken, Ozuna brought that here right? They stopped mix it up and the end game outfield selfie entirely. He started both. They did the aggressive chop that Heredia always does instead which honestly im a fan of. But rough that so many kids loved mix it up and now have to be told to stop, but life lesson opportunity. Hit people, pay the price. labradford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Born Again Georgian said: I didn’t really notice today, but did the Braves stop doing that “mix it up” celebration they’ve been doing? If I’m not mistaken, Ozuna brought that here right? They did stop it. My GF and I noticed that. They need to come up with something new now. labradford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 My guess on how this goes down: 1. MLB investigation will last about 1 month. 2. Commissioner will suspend Ozuna w/o pay for the maximum allowed under CBA, which I think is 162 games 3. Ozuna will plead to the lesser battery charge to get the felony dropped. He'll be sentenced to a fine and 1 year probation to include mandatory counselling and community service 4. Ozuna will be reinstated around mid-season next year; by that time the Braves and Ozuna will have already negotiated a buy-out of the remaining 2.5 years of the contract 5. Ozuna will be released 6. Ozuna will be signed by the Yankees, Astros, or some other team that is A-OK with domestic violence AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Ken Rosenthal pointed out that the Mets tried to basically void K-Rods contract after his fight with a relative led to charges. They settled on lesser amount. The recent drama between the Mets and Cespedes led them again to try and wiggle out from his contract. That turned into a settlement for less money as well. So history would tell us a settlement is likely coming. The Braves will save money during his suspension and they'll cut a deal for a percentage of his remaining money to make him go away. K26dp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, K26dp said: My guess on how this goes down: 1. MLB investigation will last about 1 month. 2. Commissioner will suspend Ozuna w/o pay for the maximum allowed under CBA, which I think is 162 games 3. Ozuna will plead to the lesser battery charge to get the felony dropped. He'll be sentenced to a fine and 1 year probation to include mandatory counselling and community service 4. Ozuna will be reinstated around mid-season next year; by that time the Braves and Ozuna will have already negotiated a buy-out of the remaining 2.5 years of the contract 5. Ozuna will be released6. Ozuna will be signed by the Yankees, Astros, or some other team that is A-OK with domestic violence Oof. I felt the fire and passion on that one K26dp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Details emerging. . . Ozuna is still in big trouble, but it sounds like Mrs. O was brandishing a knife. As I always tell my boys, whatever you do, don’t marry crazy. . . https://www.outkick.com/more-details-emerging-from-marcell-ozuna-domestic-abuse-situation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 45 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: Details emerging. . . Ozuna is still in big trouble, but it sounds like Mrs. O was brandishing a knife. As I always tell my boys, whatever you do, don’t marry crazy. . . https://www.outkick.com/more-details-emerging-from-marcell-ozuna-domestic-abuse-situation/ They have a long violent history apparently. Her arrest for domestic violence last year seems to not be an isolated experience but more of a glimpse into what their relationship was/is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl;dr Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: Details emerging. . . Ozuna is still in big trouble, but it sounds like Mrs. O was brandishing a knife. As I always tell my boys, whatever you do, don’t marry crazy. . . https://www.outkick.com/more-details-emerging-from-marcell-ozuna-domestic-abuse-situation/ After reading it, I don’t think much changes. She grabbed the knife in self defense so yeah lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, tl;dr said: After reading it, I don’t think much changes. She grabbed the knife in self defense so yeah lol Did he attack her before she grabbed the knife, or did she threaten him with the knife and he went after her before she took a swipe at him? That’s the critical part. Given their history I could see either being the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger7222 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, tl;dr said: After reading it, I don’t think much changes. She grabbed the knife in self defense so yeah lol 26 minutes ago, Ghosts of Glanville said: Did he attack her before she grabbed the knife, or did she threaten him with the knife and he went after her before she took a swipe at him? That’s the critical part. Given their history I could see either being the case In this case they're both clearly in the wrong and both should be charged, at least from what I'm understanding. Especially given her history of involvement in this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I was reminded Ozuna has a history of anger. He was involved in a brawl outside of a strip club in 2014 as a member of the Cards. Charges were dropped in that instance because Ozuna reached a financial settlement with the other party AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 16 hours ago, AUTiger7222 said: In this case they're both clearly in the wrong and both should be charged, at least from what I'm understanding. Especially given her history of involvement in this deal. Agreed. And they need to split up before someone gets seriously hurt AUTiger7222 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 5/31/2021 at 3:28 PM, Unknøwn said: An important note in this. Because this falls under the Family Violence Act in Georgia the charges cannot be dropped by the victim. Hes being charged regardless. He'll have to plead for lesser charges or go down on the felony. Unrelated but Coach k is retiring after this year. I’m sure you’ve heard but just in case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, VTCrunkler said: Unrelated but Coach k is retiring after this year. I’m sure you’ve heard but just in case Yeah, I had a feeling it was coming. I dont think hes been fully in it the last couple of years. I'm excited for Scheyer. Hes a high IQ guy and tremendous recruiter VTCrunkler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Unknøwn said: Yeah, I had a feeling it was coming. I dont think hes been fully in it the last couple of years. I'm excited for Scheyer. Hes a high IQ guy and tremendous recruiter I didn’t know Scheyer was on staff. I would have thought Capel might have been in the mix too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, VTCrunkler said: I didn’t know Scheyer was on staff. I would have thought Capel might have been in the mix too. Scheyer has been on staff since 2014. He was promoted to assistant HC a few years ago. A few years ago I would have absolutely said Capel. However it became clear that Scheyer was being groomed by K. Thats part of his retirement, he gets to hand the keys to Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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