falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 From 2018-2020: Falcons and Lions are the only teams with losing records in the last 3 seasons when the QB threw for more than 3 TD. To put this in perspective, GB had just 2 more games with QB throwing more than 3 TD compared to Falcons. However, GB had 7 more wins than Falcons. W-L record when the QB throws 3 TD and one or less Interceptions: Worst of all the Falcons have Pathetic record when the QB throws less than 2 TD. Chiefs had just 6 Games less than Falcons where the QB threw 2 TD or less, however they also had 17 less losses. It just shows the cards the QB in Atlanta has been dealt with every game for winning the game. AS better get the Run game and the defense helping out the QB. Drunken Minotaur Zebra, Herr Doktor, Falcon from E and 12 others 3 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 And people here actually think our issue is at QB The old George Carin quote comes to mind: “Imagine how stupid the average person is... then realize half of them are dumber than that”. tl;dr, JDaveG, Knight of God and 18 others 15 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Drunken Minotaur Zebra said: And people here actually think our issue is at QB The old George Carin quote comes to mind: “Imagine how stupid the average person is... then realize half of them are dumber than that”. QB has to be perfect and do it all. ATLSlobberKnockers, slick0ne, JDaveG and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Falcons and Lions are the only team with losing records in the last 3 seasons when the QB threw for more than 3 TD. To put this in perspective, GB had just 2 more games with QB throwing more than 3 TD compared to Falcons. However, GB had 7 more wins than Falcons. W-L record when the QB throws 3 TD and one or less Interceptions: Worst of all the Falcons have Pathetic record when the QB throws less than 2 TD. Chiefs had just 6 Games less than Falcons where the QB threw 2 TD or less, however they also had 17 less losses. It just shows the cards the QB in Atlanta has been dealt with every game for winning the game. AS better get the Run game and the defense helping out the QB. Wonder if McVay was thinking of stats like this when they went after Stafford. Sportsman2593, falcons007, alexhead97 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Kaptain Krazy said: Wonder if McVay was thinking of stats like this when they went after Stafford. Yep. I think Stafford is underrated playing for a crappy team. JDaveG, Knight of God, Falcon from E and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The Falcons lost 0 games when Zach Wilson threw 3 TDs. Just saying... Knight of God, Sportsman2593, Ergo Proxy and 11 others 1 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvinthemartian Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, Drunken Minotaur Zebra said: And people here actually think our issue is at QB The old George Carin quote comes to mind: “Imagine how stupid the average person is... then realize half of them are dumber than that”. That is absolutely profound. I love it. falcons007, Drunken Minotaur Zebra and Herr Doktor 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The sign of a woefully imbalanced team lacking the very fundamentals that enable success. MR2 has done a valiant job. For the least appreciative fan base in the NFL. Alomar, falcons007, Sportsman2593 and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jesus said: The Falcons lost 0 games when Zach Wilson threw 3 TDs. Just saying... I pity new QB if the trend continues. This place will call him bust if the guy doesn’t play perfect game to win. Build the **** team. Jesus, Rings, Run 'n' Shoot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, falcons007 said: I pity new QB if the trend continues. This place will call him bust if the guy doesn’t play perfect game to win. Build the **** team. That's exactly it. Build the defense and offensive scheme and anyone can win with the team. It makes no sense to give up on Ryan. Run 'n' Shoot, xSICKxWITHxITx, Falcon from E and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Herr Doktor said: The sign of a woefully imbalanced team lacking the very fundamentals that enable success. MR2 has done a valiant job. For the least appreciative fan base in the NFL. But but I don’t care I am on Justin fields fan club/Lances fan club or Ryan hate club. Herr Doktor, Falcon from E and papachaz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bruce Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, Drunken Minotaur Zebra said: And people here actually think our issue is at QB The old George Carin quote comes to mind: “Imagine how stupid the average person is... then realize half of them are dumber than that”. This narrative that you are anti-Matt Ryan if you are supportive of the drafting a QB at 4 really needs to be retired.... ukfalc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Al Bruce said: This narrative that you are anti-Matt Ryan if you are supportive of the drafting a QB at 4 really needs to be retired.... Or you are part of Justin Fields/ Lance fan club. You want the new shiny player. papachaz, Drunken Minotaur Zebra and Falcon from E 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 After the 3rd round of the draft can we all agree to not mention Dan again? Falcon from E, papachaz and popeyez_biscuits 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bruce Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, falcons007 said: Or you are part of Justin Fields/ Lance fan club. You want the new shiny player. I actually lean Pitts, but I get it if they go Fields/Lance. I have no issues with Matt Ryan, he is the best QB we've ever had and I was a hardcore Vick fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Deal the f'ing 4th and strengthen THE TEAM Falcon from E, papachaz, ukfalc and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 It's not surprising the Falcons have spent the majority of the cap on the offense. Most teams are constructed with more balance which is why they can win games in multiple ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, insight said: It's not surprising the Falcons have spent the majority of the cap on the offense. Most teams are constructed with more balance which is why they can win games in multiple ways. Nope. Falcons Offense and defense are usually with in 10-12%. Problem is the defense used all the draft capital with nothing to show. Falcons had a top 5 cap hit defensive line in NFL last few years, but they always ended up in the bottom of sacks. Falcon from E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Drunken Minotaur Zebra said: And people here actually think our issue is at QB The old George Carin quote comes to mind: “Imagine how stupid the average person is... then realize half of them are dumber than that”. The issue is bigger than the QB position, Dimi committed the majority of the salary cap to the offensive side of the ball and expected Quinn to turn water into wine on defensive. This is why the team was one dimensional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, insight said: The issue is bigger than the QB position, Dimi committed the majority of the salary cap to the offensive side of the ball and expected Quinn to turn water into wine on defensive. This is why the team was one dimensional. Another TATF myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, falcons007 said: Nope. Falcons Offense and defense are usually with in 10-12%. Problem is the defense used all the draft capital with nothing to show. Falcons had a top 5 cap hit defensive line in NFL last few years, but they always ended up in the bottom of sacks. I looked at the numbers for years, it has everything to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, falcons007 said: Another TATF myth. A myth like the salary cap would not be an issue this year. I know plenty of people were telling me I was wrong about that as well. Aluminafalcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, insight said: I looked at the numbers for years, it has everything to do with it. What numbers? Falcons offense was ranked 16 in NFL for cap space and defense at 15 in 2019. Very poor return on defense in draft and FA. Falcons secondary in 2018 was one of the most expensive secondary, yet it was one of the worst. All the draft capital and Cap wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWFALCON Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jesus said: The Falcons lost 0 games when Zach Wilson threw 3 TDs. Just saying... Bring him home. Edited April 21, 2021 by NWFALCON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, falcons007 said: What numbers? Falcons offense was ranked 16 in NFL for cap space and defense at 15 in 2019. Very poor return on defense in draft and FA. Falcons secondary in 2018 was one of the most expensive secondary, yet it was one of the worst. All the draft capital and Cap wasted. It's not a straight line formula because they move money in specific years. Take a look at 2017 for example. It should not be surprising, the majority of the best players have played on offense. Grady and Debo just got paid but prior to that Trufant was the highest paid defensive player, while our 3rd receiver Sanu was making 8 million a season. Mike Smith used to have more balanced rosters but that was a long time ago. Edited April 21, 2021 by insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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