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There’s no doubt our offense has the potential to be dangerous, especially after we pick up a few pieces in the draft but how do you guys feel about the defense. We have a few proven guys but I’m not sure where we stand as an entire unit.

I’m happy we have Dean Pees running the defense but I’m just wondering if we have enough talent to run his system at a high level. I look at guys like Donte Fowler, Marlon Davis, John Cominski and even Deion Jones and I’m thinking Pees can take them to another level or at the very least use them in the correct way. 

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2 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said:

There’s no doubt our offense has the potential to be dangerous, especially after we pick up a few pieces in the draft but how do you guys feel about the defense. We have a few proven guys but I’m not sure where we stand as an entire unit.

I’m happy we have Dean Pees running the defense but I’m just wondering if we have enough talent to run his system at a high level. I look at guys like Donte Fowler, Marlon Davis, John Cominski and even Deion Jones and I’m thinking Pees can take them to another level or at the very least use them in the correct way. 

Just have to wait and see what the draft adds....but I do think with a couple additions it’s possible to be top 20. The most important thing for defense is to be close to top 15-20 in 22. We ain’t winning theSB this year for sure, I just hope for consistency and solid play

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After picking up Bullard, Mingo, Copeland, Harris, Harmon, and Moreau, plus getting Davidson back healthy, it’s looking significantly better already even before the draft.

I also think guys like Terrell, Cominsky, Sheffield, and Williamson will likely show improvement, too.

We need a couple edge rushers and a safety in the draft, but really that fills the immediate needs.  Anything more is really just depth and/or projects/luxury.

Don't get me wrong, we could upgrade at several positions, but that’s not going to happen with late round picks.

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If we can add a CB, S, and Edge in the draft within the 1st 4 Rds I think it would definitely help. DT isn't as big a need with Jarrett, Davison, Davidson, Cominsky, Senat, Bullard. I still want a guy to backup Davison at NT for sure later in the draft. 

Whether we go Pitts or Lance/Fields at #4, the next few picks need to be Defense. RB to me can wait until Rd5.

With our current 9 picks I think 6 should be defensive with the three offensive being RB, TE, OL. Should we gain additional picks because of a trade down then it should still be a similar percentage. But I'm on board with BPA so who knows how it'll play out.

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4 minutes ago, Atl Falcon said:

Just have to wait and see what the draft adds....but I do think with a couple additions it’s possible to be top 20. The most important thing for defense is to be close to top 15-20 in 22. We ain’t winning theSB this year for sure, I just hope for consistency and solid play

I wanna shock some teams. I really believe we’re going to steal some games that people will automatically count us out in. Of course I’m not screaming Super Bowl but I do think we’re going to be better than expected.

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7 minutes ago, Foo Falcons said:

If we can add a CB, S, and Edge in the draft within the 1st 4 Rds I think it would definitely help. DT isn't as big a need with Jarrett, Davison, Davidson, Cominsky, Senat, Bullard. I still want a guy to backup Davison at NT for sure later in the draft. 

Whether we go Pitts or Lance/Fields at #4, the next few picks need to be Defense. RB to me can wait until Rd5.

With our current 9 picks I think 6 should be defensive with the three offensive being RB, TE, OL. Should we gain additional picks because of a trade down then it should still be a similar percentage. But I'm on board with BPA so who knows how it'll play out.

I’m almost there with you on your thinking except I’d grab a running back in the 2nd. I think one of the guys there could set us up and that position for the next 4-5 years. I’d pass on TE and go completely defense after the 2nd round unless we end up grabbing Pitts in the first round.

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Just now, TheRisen999 said:

I’m almost there with you on your thinking except I’d grab a running back in the 2nd. I think one of the guys there could set us up and that position for the next 4-5 years. I’d pass on TE and go completely defense after the 2nd round unless we end up grabbing Pitts in the first round.

I understand taking one of the top 3 guys at RB in the 2nd. I wouldn't be mad. I think the addition of Mike Davis and Patterson being listed as a RB shows that we won't go RB early in the draft, but it could just be a chess move to hope one falls to us. 

Some later round guys like Hubbard, Herbert, Gainwell, Hawkins, Ragas, and Mitchell make more sense to me this year. Then go RB higher next year or the year after depending on how things are going. But if Ettiene is there, I'd have a hard time passing on him if I'm TFont. Williams could fall to the 3rd possibly but probably not. Either way I think the CB and G/C class falls off after the 2-3 Rds a bit so I'm going there in those Rds. 

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16 minutes ago, Foo Falcons said:

If we can add a CB, S, and Edge in the draft within the 1st 4 Rds I think it would definitely help. DT isn't as big a need with Jarrett, Davison, Davidson, Cominsky, Senat, Bullard. I still want a guy to backup Davison at NT for sure later in the draft. 

Whether we go Pitts or Lance/Fields at #4, the next few picks need to be Defense. RB to me can wait until Rd5.

With our current 9 picks I think 6 should be defensive with the three offensive being RB, TE, OL. Should we gain additional picks because of a trade down then it should still be a similar percentage. But I'm on board with BPA so who knows how it'll play out.

The thing is, if we're "Going BPA" and take offense round one, it's going to be hard to justify going defense until round 4, unless something very weird happens in the draft.

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1 minute ago, Lornoth said:

The thing is, if we're "Going BPA" and take offense round one, it's going to be hard to justify going defense until round 4, unless something very weird happens in the draft.

I've thought about this. Like what if Terrance Marshall from LSU is there in the 2nd. Do we take him? What if Williams does fall to the 3rd? It's definitely possible the 1st three picks are offensive. There so much unknown with it being TFont's first year.

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8 minutes ago, Foo Falcons said:

If we can add a CB, S, and Edge in the draft within the 1st 4 Rds I think it would definitely help. DT isn't as big a need with Jarrett, Davison, Davidson, Cominsky, Senat, Bullard. I still want a guy to backup Davison at NT for sure later in the draft. 

Whether we go Pitts or Lance/Fields at #4, the next few picks need to be Defense. RB to me can wait until Rd5.

With our current 9 picks I think 6 should be defensive with the three offensive being RB, TE, OL. Should we gain additional picks because of a trade down then it should still be a similar percentage. But I'm on board with BPA so who knows how it'll play out.

Senat already backs up Davison, and also Grady plays nearly 30% of his snaps at NT, too.

I’m not so sure CB is a priority anymore after picking up Moreau.

Terrell is surely going to improve after already playing extremely well for a rookie.

Sheffield and Oliver can battle over the slot.  Williams is also in year 2 and will hopefully be improved.

Harris and Harmon will probably be our starters at safety. And even though we will surely draft another safety, I’m not so sure they will be better than Harris and Harmon right out the gate. Also we really have no clue what we got in Hawkins, too.

Edge and LG are our 2 biggest holes. And AS is definitely going to want another TE and big RB.  And of course there’s not even a QB2 on the roster, but there’s still a ton of vets available, and we’ll almost assuredly draft one with one of our 9 picks.

That said, if we move back and get Surtain or Horn early, I won’t be unhappy.

Anyway, point is don’t be upset if we don’t take all those defensive positions in the first 4 rounds. We have needs on offense and this is a bad draft for defense in general top to bottom, while it’s incredible for offense in the first 4 rounds, especially the first 2.

If the talent gap is so much slanted offense, don’t be surprised if our first 4 rounds is mostly offense, and then we loud up on defense after.

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27 minutes ago, Beef said:

After picking up Bullard, Mingo, Copeland, Harris, Harmon, and Moreau, plus getting Davidson back healthy, it’s looking significantly better already even before the draft.

I also think guys like Terrell, Cominsky, Sheffield, and Williamson will likely show improvement, too.

We need a couple edge rushers and a safety in the draft, but really that fills the immediate needs.  Anything more is really just depth and/or projects/luxury.

Don't get me wrong, we could upgrade at several positions, but that’s not going to happen with late round picks.

Agree. The players TF has brought in so far are all guys who can contribute. On the whole, better than I was expecting. This defense played very well in stretches last season, they just couldn't make it through an entire game.

With Pees I don't see that as a problem this season. We should come out of this draft with at least two or three players who can have an impact on D beyond the FA's already acquired. This D could surprise a lot of offenses this season.

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2 minutes ago, Foo Falcons said:

I've thought about this. Like what if Terrance Marshall from LSU is there in the 2nd. Do we take him? What if Williams does fall to the 3rd? It's definitely possible the 1st three picks are offensive. There so much unknown with it being TFont's first year.

Yup.  I won't necessarily be upset either way. I'm getting excited to see, though. 

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6 minutes ago, Foo Falcons said:

I understand taking one of the top 3 guys at RB in the 2nd. I wouldn't be mad. I think the addition of Mike Davis and Patterson being listed as a RB shows that we won't go RB early in the draft, but it could just be a chess move to hope one falls to us. 

Some later round guys like Hubbard, Herbert, Gainwell, Hawkins, Ragas, and Mitchell make more sense to me this year. Then go RB higher next year or the year after depending on how things are going. But if Ettiene is there, I'd have a hard time passing on him if I'm TFont. Williams could fall to the 3rd possibly but probably not. Either way I think the CB and G/C class falls off after the 2-3 Rds a bit so I'm going there in those Rds. 

I guess it’d just depend on who’s available. I’d definitely be all in on Gainwell if he’s there in the 3rd. 

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1 minute ago, Beef said:

Senat already backs up Davison, and also Grady plays nearly 30% of his snaps at NT, too.

I’m not so sure CB is a priority anymore after picking up Moreau.

Terrell is surely going to improve after already playing extremely well for a rookie.

Sheffield and Oliver can battle over the slot.  Williams is also in year 2 and will hopefully be improved.

Harris and Harmon will probably be our starters at safety. And even though we will surely draft another safety, I’m not so sure they will be better than Harris and Harmon right out the gate. Also we really have no clue what we got in Hawkins, too.

Edge and LG are our 2 biggest holes. And AS is definitely going to want another TE and big RB.  And of course there’s not even a QB2 on the roster, but there’s still a ton of vets available, and we’ll almost assuredly draft one with one of our 9 picks.

That said, if we move back and get Surtain or Horn early, I won’t be unhappy.

Anyway, point is don’t be upset if we don’t take all those defensive positions in the first 4 rounds. We have needs on offense and this is a bad draft for defense in general top to bottom, while it’s incredible for offense in the first 4 rounds, especially the first 2.

If the talent gap is so much slanted offense, don’t be surprised if our first 4 rounds is mostly offense, and then we loud up on defense after.

I do think DL isn't gonna get much more added to it. Maybe a late Rd guy like Tonga or Bobby Brown. 

Edge certainly is a need and I'm hoping someone falls to the 2nd that is worthy of the pick.

I'm not sold on Oliver and Sheffiled being CB3-4. I'd love an Aaron Robinson in the 3rd or some other guy to man the NB spot or at least compete for it. I'm definitely not comfortable rolling with the CB group and not having a guy that can truly compete year 1. 

This will be intriguing as **** to see how TFont goes about the draft. Exciting time

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5 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

We upgraded safety, CB is looking better. There isn’t glaring need to reach for the picks. I see lot of value at top of second for pass rushers. Good thing is falcons can sit back and draft any of the positions with out reaching for a player/position.

And that’s a beautiful thing. 

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4 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said:

I guess it’d just depend on who’s available. I’d definitely be all in on Gainwell if he’s there in the 3rd. 

For sure. Gainwell is definitely intriguing. He's like a bigger/more compact Ito Smith with probably more speed. Ito did run a 4.48 I believe but we never got to see it on game day. I'm definitely hoping we get a speedster/3rd down kinda RB in the draft if we don't go Ettiene in the 2nd

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2 minutes ago, Foo Falcons said:

I do think DL isn't gonna get much more added to it. Maybe a late Rd guy like Tonga or Bobby Brown. 

Edge certainly is a need and I'm hoping someone falls to the 2nd that is worthy of the pick.

I'm not sold on Oliver and Sheffiled being CB3-4. I'd love an Aaron Robinson in the 3rd or some other guy to man the NB spot or at least compete for it. I'm definitely not comfortable rolling with the CB group and not having a guy that can truly compete year 1. 

This will be intriguing as **** to see how TFont goes about the draft. Exciting time

I believe Moreau may be better than we think but I wouldn’t be opposed to a top notch CB to go along with Terrell. I’m thinking cut Oliver or move him to Strong Safety I’ve had enough of him at Corner.

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Just now, TheRisen999 said:

I believe Moreau may be better than we think but I wouldn’t be opposed to a top notch CB to go along with Terrell. I’m thinking cut Oliver or move him to Strong Safety I’ve had enough of him at Corner.

I'm hoping he is man. I think he and Terrell could be a solid pairing on the outside. The NB spot isn't resolved yet though. Oliver is nice as a bigger nickle but Sheffield had such a down year idk about him any more. Oliver at safety certainly is worth taking a look for sure

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5 minutes ago, falcons007 said:

With all the run on QBs and WR, OL going in first round. There would be some good talent on defensive side of the ball at 35. If they can trade down and get extra pick, it would be even better. 

I’d love to trade down with Miami and still get our guy while picking up an extra 2nd or 3rd pick. Some great players or bound to fall.. Edge, CB, Safety, maybe even a Guard could be right there. I think we’ll end up with great picks regardless because we’re picking high in each round and TF seems to know exactly what he’s doing.

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6 minutes ago, TheRisen999 said:

I’d love to trade down with Miami and still get our guy while picking up an extra 2nd or 3rd pick. Some great players or bound to fall.. Edge, CB, Safety, maybe even a Guard could be right there. I think we’ll end up with great picks regardless because we’re picking high in each round and TF seems to know exactly what he’s doing.

Why would Miami trade down just to trade up twice?

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6 minutes ago, Foo Falcons said:

I'm hoping he is man. I think he and Terrell could be a solid pairing on the outside. The NB spot isn't resolved yet though. Oliver is nice as a bigger nickle but Sheffield had such a down year idk about him any more. Oliver at safety certainly is worth taking a look for sure

I’m willing to see how Sheffield looks under a new regime through training camp. He flashed potential early on, a better coaching staff will probably help him become a consistent player maker.

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